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abc2xyz
    13-Nov-2009 14:36  
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Don't long when the price cuts down the moving averages.  Advise to wait.  Px might drop further.

Juzztrade      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 15:14) Posted:



Good to go long... My view only...



 
 
ROI25per
    13-Nov-2009 14:34  
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dun forget 18c coming

take note, as for overpaying of the mall, sph has to come out 60% , 40 % belong to NTUC
 
 
oinkoink1999
    12-Nov-2009 15:35  
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Hi Juzztrade,

                   I shared your thoughts. Market probably over-reacted on this news.

Cheers,

oinkoink Smiley
 

 
Juzztrade
    12-Nov-2009 15:14  
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Good to go long... My view only...


 
 
AnthonyTan
    12-Nov-2009 14:39  
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Tat is the reason why the share peice did not go up for

donkey years inspite of many analysts recommending

this counter.You buy into it for dividend ONLY

Cheers and good luck.



Calculation      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 14:31) Posted:

Future rental may or may not be high, the point is why paid so much more when you could have gotten it much cheaper?  Did the Tender Committe carry out a careful research?  SPH is supposed to be a company specialising in information!

leoncyber16      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 09:53) Posted:



What is the problem? They may have overpaid but they have probably done their calculations that they are still able to make money inspite of the higher prices. Anyway they have only 60% ownership. Moreover the Clementi mall will have good quanlity cliente allowing for higher rentals. Therefore I do not see this affecting their core business and revenue presently.


 
 
Calculation
    12-Nov-2009 14:31  
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Future rental may or may not be high, the point is why paid so much more when you could have gotten it much cheaper?  Did the Tender Committe carry out a careful research?  SPH is supposed to be a company specialising in information!

leoncyber16      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 09:53) Posted:



What is the problem? They may have overpaid but they have probably done their calculations that they are still able to make money inspite of the higher prices. Anyway they have only 60% ownership. Moreover the Clementi mall will have good quanlity cliente allowing for higher rentals. Therefore I do not see this affecting their core business and revenue presently.

 

 
Juzztrade
    12-Nov-2009 13:23  
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Singapore Press Holdings

A buying opportunity amid share price weakness

The market disappointment over Clementi Mall bid will blow over as

advertising revenue recovery gains momentum. Share price weakness is a

buying opportunity.

Corporate Event

CM Domain, a joint-venture between Singapore Press Holdings (SPH – 60%

share), NTUC Income (20%) and NTUC Fair Price (20%), madee the highest

bid of S$541.9m for Clementi Mall which is part of a larger HDB development.

This is 42% above the second-highest bid of S$382m from a venture

between Keppel Land's Alpha Investment Partners and Guthrie

 
 
Farmer
    12-Nov-2009 12:58  
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SPH: HOLD (Downgrade from Buy) S$3.89; Bloomberg: SPH SP
Overpaying for the mall;
Price Target : 12-month S$ 4.00 (Prev S$ 4.22)
By: Andy SIM CFA +65 6398 7969

SPH’s JV put in a bid of S$542m for Clementi Mall, 42% above second
bidder

Costly at c. S$3,055 psf NLA, vs other bids and latest valuation of other
suburban retail malls

Downgrade to Hold; lower TP: S$4.00

S$542m bid for Clementi Mall. SPH, in a JV with NTUC, submitted the
highest bid of S$541.9m (amongst 6 bidders) for a 25,000 sqm GFA shopping
mall at Clementi, in a tender that closed last evening (10 Nov). The bid of
S$541.9m was above-market-expectations and is c.42% higher than the second
bid of S$382m. The bid works out to S$2,014 psf GFA.

Low net yield est at 4.5% - 5%, vs current retail cap rates of 5.5% to 6%.
The mall, which is part of a larger 40-storey development that includes two
blocks of HDB flats and a bus interchange, comprises two basement levels
and five levels above ground with a maximum net floor area of 193,752 sf.
HDB will build the core structure and façade, and will hand over to the
winning bidder around Aug 2010. The estimated cost of fit-out is around
S$50m. This raises the cost further and works out to S$3,055 psf NLA, which
is high compared to valuations of other suburban retail malls, ranging from
c.S$1,700 to S$2,350 psf. Assuming an estimated gross monthly rental of
S$15-16 psf pm, the net yield works out to about 4.5% - 5%, versus current
retail cap rates of 5.5% - 6%.

Attracted by the potential and revenue sources. Notwithstanding the price,
we believe the mall is well located within the town centre, connected to
bus interchanges/MRT station and has a good catchment area with 91k
residents and 65k students in the vicinity. Furthermore, we believe SPH has
been aggressive in looking for additional sources of revenue as Sky@Eleven
contribution ceases in 2010. Funding, in our view, could be via its
internal resources.

Downgrade to Hold, TP: S$4.00. We believe share price could be affected in
the near term as the market will view this piece of news negatively given
that: (i) SPH seems to have been overly aggressive; (ii) there will be a
higher risk profile attached on its foray into a higher risk project
vis-à-vis the stable print business; and (iii) lower prospects of special
dividends in FY10 when Sky@Eleven is completed, a catalyst the market was
looking for previously. Our revised TP of S$4.00 is based on a 5% discount
to our sum-of-parts RNAV.
 
 
Farmer
    12-Nov-2009 12:55  
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Is this the latest research from DBSS? I read it yesterday but with different recommendation on TP leh!

Downgrade SPH to Hold; TP: S$4.00 (Prev S$ 4.22).

pharoah88      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 12:44) Posted:

Singapore Traders Spectrum

Wired Daily

DBS Group Research . Equity 11 November 2009

Downgrade SPH to HOLD – overpaying for Clementi Mall

SPH’s JV put in a bid of S$542m for Clementi Mall, 42%

above second bidder.  This is costly at c. S$3,055 psf NLA, vs

other bids and latest valuation of other suburban retail malls.

Downgrade SPH to Hold; TP: S$3.79 (Prev S$ 4.22).

MISinformation is the GREATEST RISK in INvestment....

American SUB-prime was rooted in CINE....

Complacency; Incompetence; Negligence; Exuberance



OVERbid is CINE....


 
 
pharoah88
    12-Nov-2009 12:44  
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Singapore Traders Spectrum

Wired Daily

DBS Group Research . Equity 11 November 2009

Downgrade SPH to HOLD – overpaying for Clementi Mall

SPH’s JV put in a bid of S$542m for Clementi Mall, 42%

above second bidder.  This is costly at c. S$3,055 psf NLA, vs

other bids and latest valuation of other suburban retail malls.

Downgrade SPH to Hold; TP: S$3.79 (Prev S$ 4.22).

MISinformation is the GREATEST RISK in INvestment....

American SUB-prime was rooted in CINE....

Complacency; Incompetence; Negligence; Exuberance



OVERbid is CINE....

 

 
Jackpot2010
    12-Nov-2009 10:33  
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KIM ENG SECURITIES (12 Nov):
SPH – Company Update results (Anni KUM, DID: 64321470)

Top bid for Clementi Mall surprised the market

SPH’s consortium (with NTUC) submitted the highest bid of $541.9m for Clementi Mall in a tender by the HDB. The winning bid for the mall with 193,752 sqf NLA was 42% to 219% higher than the other five bids. The price per sqf, inclusive of furnishing costs, works out to $3055 psf, which surprised the market and caused a major sell-down yesterday.

Premium bid is their prerogative

The bid by SPH appears pricey when compared to the latest valuations of suburban malls owned by CMT and FCT ($1,696 – $2,353 psf). However, suburban retail assets in Singapore are highly sought after. Clementi Mall warrants a premium as it faces no competition in its area, is part of a major integrated project, and has a catchment of over 150,000 residents in Clementi and students from the universities and polytechnic in the West.

Potential value-erosion is relatively small at 7 cts per share

Even if we assume the capital value of Clementi Mall to be marked down to the 3rd highest bid by Fraser Centrepoint of $2,075 psf, the decrease in our SOTP valuation is relatively small at 7 cts/share. Implied gross rent of $10 psf pm (5.75% cap rate) suggests a potential upside to rentals as market retail rents range from $11-16 psf pm.

Not to worry about dividend payout

The estimated cost of $354.7m for SPH’s share of the project is likely to be funded internally with cash and proceeds from Sky@Eleven. We believe its generous dividend policy remains supported by its $1.0b investible fund and ever-growing free cash flow in excess of $300m p.a. There could also be possibilities of more malls to come, with SPH’s group of malls eventually being spun off into a REIT.

Market over-reacted to premium bid; Accumulate on weakness

We estimate that Clementi Mall could contribute $9.8m to SPH’s net profit upon completion based on gross rent of $10 psfpm (net property yield of 4.0%). The stock is oversold in our view, and continues to see value at 13.5x PER. The fear of a shift in risk profile is unwarranted as the resilience of a suburban mall enhances income stability. Maintain Buy. Previous Day Closing price: $3.74 Recommendation: BUY (maintained) Target price: $4.43 (downgraded from $4.50) SPH (SPH SP): Market over-reacted to Clementi Mall deal. Target price slightlyreduced to $4.43. Maintain Buy.

 
 
tonylim
    12-Nov-2009 10:22  
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Yes, it is all decided by market forces.  Agree that there is no need to overact.

leoncyber16      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 09:53) Posted:



What is the problem? They may have overpaid but they have probably done their calculations that they are still able to make money inspite of the higher prices. Anyway they have only 60% ownership. Moreover the Clementi mall will have good quanlity cliente allowing for higher rentals. Therefore I do not see this affecting their core business and revenue presently.

 
 
leoncyber16
    12-Nov-2009 09:53  
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What is the problem? They may have overpaid but they have probably done their calculations that they are still able to make money inspite of the higher prices. Anyway they have only 60% ownership. Moreover the Clementi mall will have good quanlity cliente allowing for higher rentals. Therefore I do not see this affecting their core business and revenue presently.
 
 
KIMPEK
    12-Nov-2009 09:30  
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Agreed! SPH Mgt had lost touch with the market,,, Hope they can learn the lession(but very expensive), and hope that it is not at the expand of the shareholder...

Calculation      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 02:22) Posted:

That was a bit way off the mark!  It shows how much SPH management had lost touch with the market.  Keppel bidded 8.5% more than F&N, while the SPH team generously offered a price that was 42% higher than the second highest bidder.

Overpaying $160 million - that was equivalent to 38% of SPH's net profit for the whole year!  And they boasted so much about management's ability in cutting staff cost?



Farmer      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 10:05) Posted:



Market  is furious regarding its over paying for buying Clementi Mall....

Singapore Press Holdings and its partners submitted the top bid for a property site in Singapore, the local press reported.

CM Domain Pte, a joint venture by SPH, NTUC Income and NTUC FairPrice, offered $541.9 million for the site in the Singapore suburb of Clementi, it was reported, citing the Housing Development Board, the island’s public housing agency. Keppel Land’s Alpha Investment Partners and Guthrie GTS jointly submitted the next-highest bid of $382 million, while Frasers Centrepoint, a unit of Fraser & Neave, was third with an offer of $352.1.


 
 
nickyng
    12-Nov-2009 06:54  
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ayah..why so work up? let investors punish the mgt by whacking on their share price loh...hee....i m more than happy to participate in this SHORTING !! hee... :D

Calculation      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 02:22) Posted:

That was a bit way off the mark!  It shows how much SPH management had lost touch with the market.  Keppel bidded 8.5% more than F&N, while the SPH team generously offered a price that was 42% higher than the second highest bidder.

Overpaying $160 million - that was equivalent to 38% of SPH's net profit for the whole year!  And they boasted so much about management's ability in cutting staff cost?



Farmer      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 10:05) Posted:



Market  is furious regarding its over paying for buying Clementi Mall....

Singapore Press Holdings and its partners submitted the top bid for a property site in Singapore, the local press reported.

CM Domain Pte, a joint venture by SPH, NTUC Income and NTUC FairPrice, offered $541.9 million for the site in the Singapore suburb of Clementi, it was reported, citing the Housing Development Board, the island’s public housing agency. Keppel Land’s Alpha Investment Partners and Guthrie GTS jointly submitted the next-highest bid of $382 million, while Frasers Centrepoint, a unit of Fraser & Neave, was third with an offer of $352.1.


 

 
Calculation
    12-Nov-2009 02:22  
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That was a bit way off the mark!  It shows how much SPH management had lost touch with the market.  Keppel bidded 8.5% more than F&N, while the SPH team generously offered a price that was 42% higher than the second highest bidder.

Overpaying $160 million - that was equivalent to 38% of SPH's net profit for the whole year!  And they boasted so much about management's ability in cutting staff cost?



Farmer      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 10:05) Posted:



Market  is furious regarding its over paying for buying Clementi Mall....

Singapore Press Holdings and its partners submitted the top bid for a property site in Singapore, the local press reported.

CM Domain Pte, a joint venture by SPH, NTUC Income and NTUC FairPrice, offered $541.9 million for the site in the Singapore suburb of Clementi, it was reported, citing the Housing Development Board, the island’s public housing agency. Keppel Land’s Alpha Investment Partners and Guthrie GTS jointly submitted the next-highest bid of $382 million, while Frasers Centrepoint, a unit of Fraser & Neave, was third with an offer of $352.1.

 
 
wongmx6
    11-Nov-2009 21:34  
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Hi Marubozu1688,

Sorry my comment could  make u hot. Sorry about that. i should not post it.




wongmx6      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 21:28) Posted:

U r not bear, u r mad

LOL



marubozu1688      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 18:57) Posted:



 
 
wongmx6
    11-Nov-2009 21:28  
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U r not bear, u r mad

LOL



marubozu1688      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 18:57) Posted:

I am a bear! Hope to see SPH retraces back to $3.31! Smiley

http://mystocksinvesting.blogspot.com/2009/11/sph-broke-critical-support-lines.html



sharebear      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 10:31) Posted:

well this selldown, looks like head and shoulders formation may be forming. what do you think is a good entry point?


 
 
marubozu1688
    11-Nov-2009 18:57  
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I am a bear! Hope to see SPH retraces back to $3.31! Smiley

http://mystocksinvesting.blogspot.com/2009/11/sph-broke-critical-support-lines.html



sharebear      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 10:31) Posted:

well this selldown, looks like head and shoulders formation may be forming. what do you think is a good entry point?

 
 
tonylim2
    11-Nov-2009 18:53  
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Thru this deal, fund managers lose confidence in the management of SPH, not just the money per se. Its exposed the poor management on poor execution.

More future deals more mistake ? It created an uncertainty to investors who want to continue to hold this share. Investor hate uncertainty, especially the big funds.
 
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