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stockmarketmind
    23-Apr-2013 21:59  
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not bad!

sanuks      ( Date: 23-Apr-2013 21:02) Posted:

ThaiBev is still holding up well today.  Smiley

 
 
sanuks
    23-Apr-2013 21:02  
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ThaiBev is still holding up well today.  Smiley
 
 
infancybird
    23-Apr-2013 19:47  
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today shortist shorted another 35 million Thbev at 0.586 but the price is still holding well above 59cents at close.  If it holds well above 60 cents this will be horrifying for the shortist. 

infancybird      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 19:40) Posted:

today shortist shorted 30 million thbev.....if price continue to rise from here, they will be scrambling back to cover their short ,thus pushing up the price.

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:24) Posted:

Sure .70....coming soon...I can not sleep tonight al..ready lah!!


 

 
enbloc
    23-Apr-2013 16:31  
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foreign investor dump f& n, any insider news?right issue?
 
 
teeth53
    23-Apr-2013 13:06  
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When F&N offer to resumed it trading, oredi had indicated how trading will be moving forward in relatively to ThaiBEV...For more info, pls turn to F&N forum.

teeth53      ( Date: 20-Apr-2013 23:07) Posted:



F& N in  volatile play..?. ThaiBEV may see the same situational play on short term, that can likely relatively  happen to both stk.

 
 
stockmarketmind
    23-Apr-2013 10:39  
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ThBev needs to suffer reactions as too many rush to buy.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/04/thai-beverage-buy-on-breakouts.html 
 

 
enbloc
    23-Apr-2013 09:59  
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ur remark proved right.

pcscorpio      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:08) Posted:

i wonder whether its a fake buy up and BB mass sell down

 
 
Octavia
    23-Apr-2013 09:45  
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The decision to keep F& N  listed on SGX essentially turns ThaiBev  into a holding company with three main units, F& N, Oishi  and Sermsuk, says Jonathan Foster, director of special situations at Religare.

He notes the Thai group has a slight history of having listed subsidiaries “it’s part of a long-term empire building. They seem to like the idea of having a Singapore-listed subsidiary, especially a blue-chip name.”

He expects F& N to become the main property-based listing vehicle for the family, allowing it to inject assets and raise equity. He’s not surprised by the recent volatility in ThaiBev’s shares, noting the market had built in expectations for a private-equity-type transaction of taking F& N private and then redistributing the assets. Foster says synergies and asset redistribution will be more difficult when minority shareholder approval is needed.
 
 
GorgeousOng
    23-Apr-2013 08:59  
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I hope so!

tonylim      ( Date: 23-Apr-2013 08:36) Posted:



If it moves up today, this long term target will become mid term target.

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 19:42) Posted:

.77 is a long term target .


 
 
tonylim
    23-Apr-2013 08:36  
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If it moves up today, this long term target will become mid term target.

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 19:42) Posted:

.77 is a long term target .

 

 
GorgeousOng
    22-Apr-2013 19:42  
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.77 is a long term target .
 
 
infancybird
    22-Apr-2013 19:40  
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today shortist shorted 30 million thbev.....if price continue to rise from here, they will be scrambling back to cover their short ,thus pushing up the price.

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:24) Posted:

Sure .70....coming soon...I can not sleep tonight al..ready lah!!!

Octavia      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:12) Posted:

Coming soon that what i heard too


 
 
myjianrong
    22-Apr-2013 17:32  
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Huart arr!!!
 
 
GorgeousOng
    22-Apr-2013 17:24  
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Sure .70....coming soon...I can not sleep tonight al..ready lah!!!

Octavia      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:12) Posted:

Coming soon that what i heard too.

myjianrong      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 16:53) Posted:

so whats next price level for THBEV? 0.7 possible bo?


 
 
Octavia
    22-Apr-2013 17:22  
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It is a conspiracy from what i see based on the recent develepment.If it can close higher than 58c today  I can say it is unlikely to be pump and dump.Huat to those standing firm.

pcscorpio      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 17:08) Posted:

i wonder whether its a fake buy up and BB mass sell down

 

 
Octavia
    22-Apr-2013 17:12  
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Coming soon that what i heard too.

myjianrong      ( Date: 22-Apr-2013 16:53) Posted:

so whats next price level for THBEV? 0.7 possible bo?

 
 
pcscorpio
    22-Apr-2013 17:08  
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i wonder whether its a fake buy up and BB mass sell down
 
 
myjianrong
    22-Apr-2013 16:53  
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so whats next price level for THBEV? 0.7 possible bo?
 
 
SFGuyRuleZ
    21-Apr-2013 00:53  
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Yea and that's what I thought too. Pretty mixed up when some financial news states that TCC owns 90.3% of F& N through Thai Beverage, which makes F& N a subsidiary of  Thai Bev, which is in turn a subsidiary of TCC. Anyway, I still feel that in the long term, both Thai Beverage and F& N will still merge to form a stronger company. It just doesn't make sense for Chaoren to pay so much for F& N just to be a standalone subsidiary of TCC. If I am not mistaken, the reason he gave for acquiring F& N is because he wants his drink business to also break into the Singapore market or some sort. On the same note, F& N's beverage business can also break into his market. By merging, which I believe they would in the long term, both companies can then tap into each other's strong points, growing stronger together as a whole. Just my own thoughts and which in any case doesn't really affect me much cuz I only bought in this counter after it broke support level of 0.605 and I didn't really invest much also..


skk888      ( Date: 20-Apr-2013 10:04) Posted:

TCC Assets is a private company owned by Chaoren and his wife. It holds the vast majority of shares in F&N. thaibev only owns a fraction and if I didn't remember wrongly its not more than 30%. Thus only if TCC assets decide to make F&N a subsidiary under thaibev, then there will be direct benefits of earnings reported in thaibev. It seems like Chaoren is keen to keep F&N which has a better reputation and strong brand in its century old history.

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 19-Apr-2013 09:47) Posted:

Actually I am confused. If TCC own 90+% of F& N through Thai Beverage, then F& N would already be a subsidary of Thai Bev, which means  F& N's profits, cashflows and assets would also contribute to the financial fundamentals of Thai Bev. Therefore whether F& N is delisted or not, I do not see much implication. Even if F& N is not a subsidary of Thai Bev, which means F& N is an independent entity by itself and it's financials do not contribute to Thai Bev, in the long run, I believe F& N would still be delisted and merge with Thai bev for when they merge, they can leverage on each other's distribution & retail networks and assets, increasing revenue and  cutting costs such as transport, distribution, storage, etc...


 
 
teeth53
    20-Apr-2013 23:19  
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When betting get so serious,  for bigger fish, one billion dollar is added to the bid, one S$ billion dollar of more  debt to clear.

Now that it's succeed. Is like a smaller fish  has carry this too big, a  babe.

teeth53      ( Date: 18-Apr-2013 10:29) Posted:

The run up is significant since they announcement to bid for F&N, a smaller fish bet for a bigger fish, now that dust had settled.

It's time to settle down too on how best to settle those debt?.

 
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