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ozone2002
    28-Jan-2009 13:20  
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Gold price hit US$900!

USD $ appreciating from 1.3+ to 1.5

double happiness for ETF gold investors.. :):)

more to come with the world printing more $$.. gold investors rejoice!.. US$1,500 will definitely be a reality..
 
 
candle
    23-Jan-2009 14:16  
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all have been answered by yrself.

YES

10 shares and in US$Smiley 
 
 
niuyear
    23-Jan-2009 12:19  
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Hi all, if anyone expert here cld cfm tis:

how to place the order for this?  Is it 10 share minimum? if share price is say US$70. this means 10 x US$70= US$700.00. Is this traded in US$ or S$?  Thank you for your help.

Happy new year to all!
 

 
ozone2002
    10-Oct-2008 09:25  
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Gold prices keep rising as stocks collapse
06:50
Xinhua Newsfeed
NEW YORK (AP) - Gold prices shot up in aftermarket trading Thursday after

stocks plunged again, sending investors scrambling for safe places to put their

money. Silver also rose.

Gold for December delivery jumped $32.30 to $918.80 in electronic trading on

the New York Mercantile Exchange, after earlier closing $20 lower at $886.50.

Investors bought up gold, a traditional safe-haven asset, after fears of a

deepening financial crisis sent U.S. stocks tumbling in a late-session swoon.

The Dow Jones industrial average fell 679 points.

Gold has been on the upswing in recent days as panic ripples through world

markets, touching off a desperate search for safe-alternative investments. The

precious metal is an attractive investment in times of crisis because it's known

for holding its value.

Silver prices also jumped, with the December contract adding 30.5 cents at

$12.18 an ounce, after earlier settling 10.3 cents higher at $11.875. December

copper rose 5.1 cents to settle at $2.406 a pound.

In energy markets, crude oil closed at its lowest level in a year as falling

demand for energy outweighed news that the Organization of Petroleum Exporting

Countries will hold an emergency meeting to discuss oil's downward slide.

Light, sweet crude for November Delivery fell $1.81 to settle at $86.62 a

barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the lowest closing price since Oct.

15, 2007. In aftermarket trading, prices edged below $85, a key technical level

that traders say could signal another plunge.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 7.59 cents to settle at

$2.4186 a gallon, while gasoline futures fell less than half a penny to $2.0273

a gallon.

In agriculture markets, grain prices traded mixed on the Chicago Board of

Trade.

Wheat for December delivery fell 3.25 cents to settle at $6.0475 a bushel,

while December corn rose 10.75 cents to settle at $4.3825 a bushel.

November soybeans rose 16 cents to settle at $9.80 a bushel.
 
 
ozone2002
    09-Oct-2008 13:29  
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gold jumped again as investors dumped stocks and moved to safe havens like gold..

GOLD GOLD GOLD!.. have u accumulated yet?
 
 
HLJHLJ
    30-Sep-2008 12:08  
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I was out few days ago thinking that equity will rally and ppl will shift gold to equity. Anyway, profit of 6.2%. Not bad but if held on, see higher profits. It is ok. My first gld investment after reading Elfin posts. I'm beginning to like Gld. Not so volatile but must be careful because people will shift commodity to equity later on and there will be a big swing once market rallies. (Market must rally, history has proven this before). Even Warren Buffet said there is nothing to be frightened of .. LOL.



ozone2002      ( Date: 30-Sep-2008 09:01) Posted:



another nice jump for gold again... :)

anyone with me on this?

 

 
ozone2002
    30-Sep-2008 09:01  
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another nice jump for gold again... :)

anyone with me on this?
 
 
ozone2002
    23-Sep-2008 08:50  
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another jump for gold..cos of the stopid dumb US bailout plan..

USD is gonna get diluted becos of this crap the Fed is coming out with..

this is good for GOLD..accumulate!!
 
 
ozone2002
    18-Sep-2008 08:45  
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what a jump for gold last nite..

now its finally showing its true worth in turmoil..

when pple start to focus in on this n realise...it would b time for the true blue gold investor to take some profit..cos when the herd comes..there's only one outcome..a big fall after the big rise ;p

that's how u play the game..
 
 
HLJHLJ
    17-Sep-2008 01:29  
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Agree with you. Jim Rogers has mentioned before. Avoid US dollar. Go for china. He is in Spore, so perhaps spore will not do too  badly either.

should put some to gold as hedge. However, if equity rallies next yr or so, then gld might come down. Might take a while for the market to stabilise. Maybe end of 2009 or 2010. My opinion.



ozone2002      ( Date: 15-Sep-2008 22:26) Posted:



yup elf..pure manipulation in gold..

while these assholes want to give the impression that all the commodities n safe haven's like gold, silver precious metals are collapsing so that you can put ur money into bonds with lousy interest rates..

they themselves are collecting the gold,silver etc that you r disposing and waiting for more financial shit to surface so that gold will shine in its true glory once they can pen another good reason for anything...

Currencies are crap..especially USD..don't believe the recent rally .. its all manipulation..with the state america is in..n with the debts that they are generating with the bail-outs..how far do u think the amercian dollar can GO???????????

 

 
ozone2002
    15-Sep-2008 22:26  
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yup elf..pure manipulation in gold..

while these assholes want to give the impression that all the commodities n safe haven's like gold, silver precious metals are collapsing so that you can put ur money into bonds with lousy interest rates..

they themselves are collecting the gold,silver etc that you r disposing and waiting for more financial shit to surface so that gold will shine in its true glory once they can pen another good reason for anything...

Currencies are crap..especially USD..don't believe the recent rally .. its all manipulation..with the state america is in..n with the debts that they are generating with the bail-outs..how far do u think the amercian dollar can GO???????????
 
 
elfinchilde
    22-Aug-2008 11:47  
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they played punk on gold the last week. )(@*#&@ goldman sachs shocked down the market saying "A fundamental shift in gold has occurred", but instead, they bought it up. No wonder the dip in px yet the large accumulations.  (ref to my post below 15 aug)
 
 
ozone2002
    22-Aug-2008 10:56  
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waiting for this moment..

gold up, USD down, oil shoot up 5%!..perfecto!
 
 
elfinchilde
    15-Aug-2008 14:25  
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it's just very odd. the buys are outweighing the sells every single day since mon, but the px is being driven down.

either they're shocking it down to accumulate, or someone's unwinding positions.

in light of macros tho, the bet is still on gold. (esp if they start issuing reports that gold is headed down. )
 
 
ozone2002
    15-Aug-2008 13:22  
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Gold correction is due to a bounce in the USD. But I foresee the USD's bounce shortlived..

SO BUY GOLD USD! Gold is real money indicator! All currencies are backed by gold.

Personal opinion...to make it into fruition is at your own judgement..
 

 
elfinchilde
    15-Aug-2008 10:50  
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update on the counter:

relax and go slow. cos 78.5 may trigger some automated sells. tech support is 65 if we were to be realistic.

one thing doesn't make sense though: px has been dropping but all the way, it's large buys this week.

new entrant to this counter: ML. (usual players Citi and MS).

So there's three foreigners (mainly) controlling this counter now.

If you look at market depth, the block consecutive lots of 2k-7k lots on both buy and sell queues belong to the BBs (my guess is automated). that's how they control the px of gold. 18-22k lots on both buy and sell queues on average each day. ie, they use ~USD$3mil to control this counter every day.

quirky tip/fun fact of the day: Citi and MS (actually, ML too) are very pantang. If you queue at a px ending with an 8, you're likely to get it. eg, 78.38, 81.08 etcetc.

The one px they can't resist is 88.88.

fyi only.   
 
 
idesa168
    15-Aug-2008 10:08  
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Sigh...one moment was happiness, went up $81...now have to pour in more $$ to avg down. Jeep some just now 78.3+...finger cross no more correction...hehehe!!! I have learnt my lesson already, never never jeep large block but bit by bit...so volatile one!
 
 
ozone2002
    15-Aug-2008 09:44  
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gold correcting again..good for some accumulation in bits again.. collect on dips ..sell on big rallies :)
 
 
ozone2002
    13-Aug-2008 11:40  
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let me congratulate u early... ya going to be a rich man..

its all abt capital preservation n acceleration if u know how to do it :)

stagflation,inflation... gold will outperform in such scenarios!



idesa168      ( Date: 12-Aug-2008 10:09) Posted:

OK, took your advice, jeep a little at 79.2+. Next purchase +/- US$1.00. Cheers

ozone2002      ( Date: 12-Aug-2008 09:37) Posted:



everytime it goes lower u buy.. graham's method of investing.. don't buy all @ one go..tat's suicide..

sell when the price is high or when there's a frenzy..

who said investing was difficult?


 
 
ozone2002
    13-Aug-2008 10:24  
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Fiscal meltdown

The cold years of disinflation are over; now we're facing a decade of

inflationary fire

Andy Xie

Updated on Aug 12, 2008

 

If you hope inflation will disappear soon, I have bad news: it may pose a

problem for the next decade. The two-decades-long ice age of disinflation

is over. The decade of inflationary fire awaits us. During the ice age,

businesses, households and governments added layers of debt to stay warm.

They should shed the fat as quickly as possible, or they may become

extinct.

 

Globalisation brought on the ice age. The fall of the Berlin Wall triggered

a general collapse of the former socialist economies. The resulting

collapse in demand caused energy prices to stay low, and they embraced an

export strategy to rebuild their economies, which sent the price of

manufactured goods on a two-decades-long descent. These forces pushed

inflation down across the world. Central banks took the credit, and printed

money generously to celebrate. This led to one asset bubble after another.

 

The ice has been melting. After years of export growth, the former

socialist states have rebuilt their economies and have been consuming.

Inflation showed up first in the commodity markets. Competition for money

popped the debt bubble that kept property prices so high in so many cities.

The deflating property-cum-credit bubble redistributes money to where it

can cause inflation, such as oil and food.

 

Instead of taming inflation, central banks are printing more money to save

teetering financial institutions; they are adding fuel to the fire. After

two decades of contained inflation, today's central bankers are not

psychologically prepared to accept a deep recession to stop inflation.

Instead, they are looking for excuses to justify their money printing.

 

Further, globalisation has made inflation global and difficult to fight.

The supply-and-demand balances of labour and natural resources are global

in nature. Their prices reflect global monetary growth. Any economy that

tightens money supply cuts its demand for such global factors; its negative

effect on growth is all felt at home, but the dampening impact on inflation

spreads across the world, benefiting everyone else. The misalignment of

incentives for inflation-fighting creates disincentives. This is why almost

everyone, including the US, complains that their inflation is "imported".

But the world as a whole cannot import inflation from someone else.

 

Another excuse for inaction is that inflation exists only in isolated

pockets, such as oil and food prices. But, money flows to where it can

inflate. In the first stage of an inflation cycle, food and energy inflate

first, as their demand and supply are relatively inelastic in the short

term. Further, their price rise attracts speculation, which accelerates the

transmission from money-printing to inflation. In the second phase, the

prices of products and services rise. Finally, wages rise as workers demand

compensation for their deteriorating living standards.

 

Most analysts argue that the final stage will never happen, because labour

unions are no longer strong. But, union power is probably demand- rather

than supply-driven. As economies boomed and inflation stayed low, workers

didn't need unions. As inflation squeezes their living standards, they can

organise quickly, to pressure their employers for wage rises.

 

To stop a slide into a decade of rampant inflation, the world needs

co-ordination to tighten simultaneously, which would spread the pain evenly

among all economies. The US' need to bail out its financial system makes

such co-ordination impossible.

 

Further, the US financial system may be bankrupt as a whole. America's

financial sector has US$15 trillion of debt for warehousing assets. If the

assets depreciate by 10 per cent, a likely outcome, the equity base of the

US financial sector would be wiped clean. The right way to address this

problem is for the government to nationalise failing financial

institutions, recapitalise or liquidate, and then privatise again. That is

what Asian countries did during the financial crisis 10 years ago.

 

The US is trying to leverage the dollar's global status for the easy way

out. When foreigners want their money back, the Federal Reserve pulls out a

few more printers and asks you to line up.

 

The money printing by the US limits how much other countries can tighten.

The prices of commodities will continue to rise with a rising US dollar

supply. Other economies can limit the price increase by curtailing their

demand. But it just gives the US more room to print money. Other economies

just don't have enough incentives to tighten.

 

In the decade of fire ahead, you must make a few adjustments to survive.

First, shed debts. During the ice age, easy liquidity made debt rollover

easy. Central banks will have to raise rates as inflation rises, even

though they won't raise them quickly enough to stop inflation. An

environment of rising interest rates makes debt rollover difficult.

Further, stagflation depresses asset valuations. It is not a winning

strategy to hold assets with debt financing.

 

Second, despite the recent roller-coaster ride, precious metals remain the

best vehicles for value preservation. Like any bull market, entry is best

after a big pullback; buy low, sell high. But, if you are swayed by expert

opinions, you end up buying high and selling low. Resist selling after a

big pullback.

 

Third, like precious metals, commodities, especially energy, remain in a

bull market. However, their volatility is even bigger than that for

precious metals. It is not for the weak-hearted. But, one could step back

and choose companies that profit from the commodity boom. For example, oil

service companies have stable and rising income despite the massive

volatility of oil prices.

 

Shed fat, pump iron and wear a swimsuit. That way, you'll survive the fire.
 
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