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pharoah88
    10-Apr-2010 17:02  
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Mr. Kunwar Bir Singh

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BUS-ON  MINISTER OF TRANSPORT



pharoah88      ( Date: 10-Apr-2010 17:00) Posted:

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Apr 9, 2010

SPLITTING BUS ROUTES

Why it won't help

 

I HAVE followed with interest ideas on reorganising bus routes ('Government to review long bus routes'; March 29).

There was a suggestion to split longer routes in two, but I fail to see how it can improve services or encourage more people to take buses. It would further stress the already bursting MRT system as people on long routes will take the train instead.

At present, most buses which ply long routes are also de facto feeder services in the areas they serve. This is because most buses on long routes alternate between major and minor roads, and follow a winding route. This means a longer transit time.

Splitting bus routes will only increase transit time and worsen the problem.

A better solution may be to make a clear distinction between feeder services and buses on long routes. This way, buses on long routes will go on only major roads and not wind around HDB townships.

Hence fewer buses will be required on longer routes.

These extra buses can then be diverted to act as feeder services, which will be strengthened to take passengers from inside housing estates to MRT stations and major roads.

This solution may be more complicated than simply splitting long routes, but I feel it is worth a look by the authorities. 

[NOTE:  use mOre BRAIN  POWER  and  TALENT  MATTER]

Kunwar Bir Singh



pharoah88      ( Date: 27-Mar-2010 12:41) Posted:



Sat: 27th March 2010   Lianhe  Zaobao

LIM  Hwee Hua

on improving bus services:

Routes over 20km to be Broken dOwn  intO  twO

this  will  DOUBLE  the  bus FARES for lOng  Distance Travellers

and  add  Connecting  Time  to  each  travel

More  Revenues and  prOfits  for  Bus  Operators

PERFECT way to Increase  Cost of  Living and  INFLATION





 
 
pharoah88
    10-Apr-2010 17:00  
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ST Forum

Apr 9, 2010

SPLITTING BUS ROUTES

Why it won't help

 

I HAVE followed with interest ideas on reorganising bus routes ('Government to review long bus routes'; March 29).

There was a suggestion to split longer routes in two, but I fail to see how it can improve services or encourage more people to take buses. It would further stress the already bursting MRT system as people on long routes will take the train instead.

At present, most buses which ply long routes are also de facto feeder services in the areas they serve. This is because most buses on long routes alternate between major and minor roads, and follow a winding route. This means a longer transit time.

Splitting bus routes will only increase transit time and worsen the problem.

A better solution may be to make a clear distinction between feeder services and buses on long routes. This way, buses on long routes will go on only major roads and not wind around HDB townships.

Hence fewer buses will be required on longer routes.

These extra buses can then be diverted to act as feeder services, which will be strengthened to take passengers from inside housing estates to MRT stations and major roads.

This solution may be more complicated than simply splitting long routes, but I feel it is worth a look by the authorities. 

[NOTE:  use mOre BRAIN  POWER  and  TALENT  MATTER]

Kunwar Bir Singh



pharoah88      ( Date: 27-Mar-2010 12:41) Posted:



Sat: 27th March 2010   Lianhe  Zaobao

LIM  Hwee Hua

on improving bus services:

Routes over 20km to be Broken dOwn  intO  twO

this  will  DOUBLE  the  bus FARES for lOng  Distance Travellers

and  add  Connecting  Time  to  each  travel

More  Revenues and  prOfits  for  Bus  Operators

PERFECT way to Increase  Cost of  Living and  INFLATION




 
 
pharoah88
    09-Apr-2010 15:58  
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is this SMRT map  TRUTH ?

it is  SENSORED ? ? ? ?



KiLrOy      ( Date: 07-Apr-2010 20:47) Posted:



As much as people are starting speculating on this stock, I would like to join in the speculation as well since I myself have invested quite heavily on this company.  So here is my MRT/LRT stations speculative map. Good for property hunting use as well :p Just wanna bump this stock as high as it before i dump it.



 

 

 
kivine
    08-Apr-2010 19:49  
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smrt is only going up. seriously, with increasing ridership, profits will only go up, nowhere else
 
 
niuyear
    08-Apr-2010 19:38  
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KiLroy,

Hope your dream come true though its not quite likely to happen.  :)

This  giant dragon head start in singapore and must end in singapore.  May be 'chu chu train' can go ply areas out of singapore.  LOL!
 
 
pharoah88
    08-Apr-2010 18:11  
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SMRT 

DYNASTY



KiLrOy      ( Date: 07-Apr-2010 20:47) Posted:



As much as people are starting speculating on this stock, I would like to join in the speculation as well since I myself have invested quite heavily on this company.  So here is my MRT/LRT stations speculative map. Good for property hunting use as well :p Just wanna bump this stock as high as it before i dump it.



 

 

 
PrivateInvestor
    08-Apr-2010 17:51  
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It will take years before these colourful lines become operational. Can wait till next major market clash before loading up

Anyway, I think there is tender for companies (SMRT or Comfort) to bid for the lines right? Don't think everything will automatically goes to SMRT
 
 
Salute
    07-Apr-2010 20:56  
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whao, very bright and colourful future for this company, it's all shown in the map, multi routes even for such a small country, colorful line.

too bad, only invested 10 lots at $1.67. How nice, if I knew how to choose company like this and invested lots of money in it. Too bad, the profit is to dump in the loss in China shares. Sigh!!

Am wiser now when buying shares, also with the help of useful infos from fellow forumers here.

Got to learn from you KiLrOy---invested heavily.

 



KiLrOy      ( Date: 07-Apr-2010 20:47) Posted:



As much as people are starting speculating on this stock, I would like to join in the speculation as well since I myself have invested quite heavily on this company.  So here is my MRT/LRT stations speculative map. Good for property hunting use as well :p Just wanna bump this stock as high as it before i dump it.



 

 
 
KiLrOy
    07-Apr-2010 20:47  
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As much as people are starting speculating on this stock, I would like to join in the speculation as well since I myself have invested quite heavily on this company.  So here is my MRT/LRT stations speculative map. Good for property hunting use as well :p Just wanna bump this stock as high as it before i dump it.



 
 
 
alexmay
    07-Apr-2010 16:13  
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0410 GMT [Dow Jones] SMRT (S53.SG) +2.4% at S$2.14, clearing S$2.10 for first time ever, as investors continue to accumulate stock in anticipation of stronger ridership, advertising revenue as phase 2 of rail operator's Circle Line in Singapore opens from April 17. Move will add 11 more stations to existing five in Circle Line, boosting potential daily ridership to 200,000 commuters from over 30,000 currently. "We see ample room for advertising opportunities in these stations, considering the human flow and available space," says OCBC Investment Research, which has Buy call with S$2.22 target. Based on Circle Line's total lettable space of about 3,500 sq m, BNP Paribas, which has Buy call with S$2.31 target, says SMRT's rental income could gain another 10% when entire line fully operational by next year. Orderbook quotes suggest shares may test S$2.15-S$2.16. (frankie.ho@dowjones.com)
 

 
niuyear
    06-Apr-2010 13:01  
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Oh yes, there is this 'warning' we must put up i.e.  -  Do becareful when wearing long saree or long dresses when  boarding or alighting the bus..... :)    This doenst mean we encourage wearing less cloth i..e super short skirt or shorts ...........hahahah!



Sporeguy      ( Date: 06-Apr-2010 11:45) Posted:

When the bus stopped at a bus stop, an old indian lady in saree tried to alight onto the bus stop raised platform, about a foot front the the bus step, she slipped and fell in between the step and the platform. 1 malay lady and a chinese lady pulled her up, and the passengers shouted to the bus driver not to move off as the indian was the last passenger to alight at that bus stop. If the driver had moved, the wheels would have gone over her. She was shaken and the chinese lady looked after her at the bus stop. Her bottle(s) were not smashes although we could hear the sound of the bottle hitting against the road.

niuyear      ( Date: 06-Apr-2010 10:12) Posted:

My advice to old folks (retired ones)   'try'   to go out  during non-peak hours and it also costs lesser on fares.   :)

 

 



 
 
Sporeguy
    06-Apr-2010 11:45  
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When the bus stopped at a bus stop, an old indian lady in saree tried to alight onto the bus stop raised platform, about a foot front the the bus step, she slipped and fell in between the step and the platform. 1 malay lady and a chinese lady pulled her up, and the passengers shouted to the bus driver not to move off as the indian was the last passenger to alight at that bus stop. If the driver had moved, the wheels would have gone over her. She was shaken and the chinese lady looked after her at the bus stop. Her bottle(s) were not smashes although we could hear the sound of the bottle hitting against the road.

niuyear      ( Date: 06-Apr-2010 10:12) Posted:

My advice to old folks (retired ones)   'try'   to go out  during non-peak hours and it also costs lesser on fares.   :)

 

 



Sporeguy      ( Date: 06-Apr-2010 00:09) Posted:



Took MRT from the West to City Hall at 1.30pm, stood all the way, at about 1 arm-length apart.

Saw a few young adults (look educated) gave their seats to old folks, got future for spore

Came back at 5 pm, sardine packed and stood all the way, and with pples' bad breath filling up the cabin. Cannot see anyone give up their seats to old folks ! A few were oblivious to the old folks standing next to them.

Transfer to a bus, was also packed like sardine, but not so smelly.


 
 
pharoah88
    06-Apr-2010 11:07  
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DOUBLE  DECK  TRAVEL  is  the  PRACTICE  in  INDIA.

DiDn't you sEE  it  On  TV  or  in  mOvies ?

ALSO,  FLANGED  TRAVEL  is  UNIQUE  in  INDIA



niuyear      ( Date: 05-Apr-2010 13:19) Posted:



If yao ming come to singapore , he can only ride on a 'double-decker' MRT  tain so that he can take the upper deck with no roof on top ..........hahaha!

Dobule decker MRT Trains  can make SMRT becoming the providers for world class TRAIN!!!

 
 
pharoah88
    06-Apr-2010 11:05  
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After  BREAKING  one trip into two,

riders  will have to LEARN to ENJOY

SPENDING  30 to 45 minutes  on  CONNECTION.

Singapore has nOt scOred WORLD's  1st  in

sOmething  that  SERVE  the  PEOPLE.

ALWAYS  WORLD's  1st  in  sOmething  that  mOney  can  BUY ????

 



Salute      ( Date: 04-Apr-2010 14:47) Posted:



breaking the long journey bus into 2 sectors is creating burden for the public financially. when i travelled in shanghai and switzerland, I didn't feel the buses winding so many roads and areas to get to the end destiny. It can easily take up one hour here. to me, it's a pain to take 45mins to 1 hr journey bus when it can be done in 15mins by taxi.

the aim of making the most money for a ride is so obvious here, worst thing is that the commuters have increased and not many buses are added in rush hours, it's so sandwiched.

Some times for 30-45mins, there isn't bus but sudenly came with 2 to 3 together. it happened to bus 145 a few times, it's quite frustrating. Singapore to be efficient like Japan and Switzerland in this aspect is still far behind.

 

 
 
niuyear
    06-Apr-2010 10:12  
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My advice to old folks (retired ones)   'try'   to go out  during non-peak hours and it also costs lesser on fares.   :)

 

 



Sporeguy      ( Date: 06-Apr-2010 00:09) Posted:



Took MRT from the West to City Hall at 1.30pm, stood all the way, at about 1 arm-length apart.

Saw a few young adults (look educated) gave their seats to old folks, got future for spore

Came back at 5 pm, sardine packed and stood all the way, and with pples' bad breath filling up the cabin. Cannot see anyone give up their seats to old folks ! A few were oblivious to the old folks standing next to them.

Transfer to a bus, was also packed like sardine, but not so smelly.

 

 
Sporeguy
    06-Apr-2010 00:09  
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Took MRT from the West to City Hall at 1.30pm, stood all the way, at about 1 arm-length apart.

Saw a few young adults (look educated) gave their seats to old folks, got future for spore

Came back at 5 pm, sardine packed and stood all the way, and with pples' bad breath filling up the cabin. Cannot see anyone give up their seats to old folks ! A few were oblivious to the old folks standing next to them.

Transfer to a bus, was also packed like sardine, but not so smelly.
 
 
alexmay
    05-Apr-2010 16:22  
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This is a basic need if you need to travel. otherwise walking is the next option. whether you like it or not it is here to stay maybe with some improvements along the way. There will be profits inline with the economy, come June  2010 we will see the PTC would announce fares increase. Not for traders. Vested 
 
 
niuyear
    05-Apr-2010 13:19  
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If yao ming come to singapore , he can only ride on a 'double-decker' MRT  tain so that he can take the upper deck with no roof on top ..........hahaha!

Dobule decker MRT Trains  can make SMRT becoming the providers for world class TRAIN!!!
 
 
niuyear
    05-Apr-2010 12:58  
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Are buses so comfortablet to be in there for 'long distance'......at the rear of the buses, the engine is like stalling all the time and its uncomvortable.



pharoah88      ( Date: 04-Apr-2010 14:23) Posted:



the Sunday Times 4 APRIL 2010  page 6  home

PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY MY LONG BUS RIDES

"Many REGULARS on Long-Haul services find them

  CONVENIENT  and DON'T  WANT A CHANG"

  Shuli  Sudderuddin

PS:  Please  CREATE  EMPLOYMENT  AND  HAPPINESS

        DON'T  INVENT  UNNECESSARY  MISERIES  FOR

       the HARD WORKING SINGAPOREANS

 

"BUS JOURNEY  IS  LONGER  BUT  LESS  CROWDED"

 Sufyan  Saad  

WILL  SHORT  ROUTE  BUSES  PACK  PASSENGERS  TO  "DEATH"  ????

 
 
shplayer
    05-Apr-2010 09:02  
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In a monopoly situation (Monopoly cos the route sectors are carved out for SBS and SMRT - and neither can infringe on the other's territory), customer comfort and satisfaction is low in the priority. Profit is the primary and possibly the only objective. Despite the reasons given, it is merely a feeble attempt to pacify the public wrath.

pharoah88      ( Date: 04-Apr-2010 14:31) Posted:



WHY  do  PEOPLE  DRIVE  or  TAKE  A  TAXI  ? ?

KEY  OBJECTIVE  is  TRAVEL  CONTINUITY

from  START  TO   END  WITHOUT  DISTRUPTION.

 

DO  NOT  DISCRIMINATE  the  PUBLIC  TRANSPORT  RIDERS

from  this BASIC  DECENT  CONVENIENT  HAPPINESS  ????

 
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