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risktaker
    16-Oct-2009 07:55  
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Mega funds still BUY IN HUGE -- Rally will substain at least till end of next week. Overseas Funds have entered SG market too. Watch out for some real action next couple of days

HUAT AH



risktaker      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 00:02) Posted:

You think the mega funds buy for fun ? lol not easy to get in and get out all at once "with this kind of volume" :) U need time ... Enjoy this ride while you can.

lookcc      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 23:54) Posted:

4 d grand finale 'pump n dump'????


 
 
aleoleo
    16-Oct-2009 07:09  
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oh uh.......   DJ close up well, hope handon is allrite, if not got to "ta pao" again ...

handon      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:38) Posted:

think not difficult to pocket 80 pts... hehe... Smiley

idesa168      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:31) Posted:

I don;t think I will like to short now. Market is on uptrend now. Chnaces of going down is slimmer than going up. I am going to sit through this gyration where many will think 10,000 is the finishing line. I feel that 10,500 before any downturn.

Good luck to you handon! If you win I will lose...hahaha!



 
 
risktaker
    16-Oct-2009 04:43  
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DJ will test 11k range EOY. Mega Funds Supporting it :) enjoyed the ride
 

 
chewwl88
    16-Oct-2009 02:49  
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Index Value:10,026.74
Trade Time:2:47AM SGT
Change:Up 10.88 (0.11%)
Prev Close:10,015.86


 

UP UP UP
 
 
equitypassion
    15-Oct-2009 23:41  
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15 Oct 2009

Forgive me if I am wrong :) Below is how i feel

STI has been running for quite sometime and he is getting tired. STI (presently 2712) is forcing himself to continue running  because Dow Jone (presently 9999)  is taking  a cane chasing after him. ( It is like a parent taking a cane chasing after their naughty child ). If Dow slow down , STI will take opportunity to catch some Rest between  STI 2400 to 2500. Be alert when investing at this moment of time. Cheap Stock has become expensive (eg Jiutian, I manage to purchase some at 0.035 but now it is 0.21 (I sold off my last piece at 0.18), I also manage to purchase China farm at 0.055 but now is 0.26 (I sold off my last piece at 0.21). I believe there are a lot of fund manager and investor who bought at high two years back are waiting to get out if something is not right.

As for Dow Jone index, lets hope it can stable and move forward at reasonable pace because unemployment rate is still high and recently it is often to come across news or comments that US citizens start to save. If US citizen start to "enjoy saving".....

Thanks for Reading :) Invest Happily :) God Bless U :)

 
 
 
williamyeo
    15-Oct-2009 23:00  
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Don't trust Dow 10,000

The stock market is supposed to be a leading indicator, predicting what happens next. But the rally doesn't mean the nation's economic woes are over.

By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As the Dow closed above 10,000 for the first time in more than a year Wednesday, economists cautioned that the blue-chip average shouldn't be seen as giving a green light to the economy.

The stock market is what is known as a leading economic indicator, as investors place bets on how strong they believe company results and the broader economy will be in the near future.

Lately, there has been a growing consensus among both investors and economists that the battered U.S. economy hit bottom and turned around earlier this year, and is now in a recovery.

The Federal Reserve said economic activity has "picked up" in its statement after its Sept. 23 meeting, and about 80% of leading economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics agreed in a survey earlier this month that the recovery has begun.

But even economists who agree the economy is in recovery say that growth will be slow and difficult, with continued job losses, tight credit and further declines in home prices. And even some who believe that the current Dow 10,000 level is justified say there's still a significant risk that the economy will take a step backward.

"One of the great challenges is whether consumers and small businesses come along with this recovery," said John Silvia, chief economist with Wells Fargo. "If they don't, you either sit at 10,000 or slip back to 9,500. To sustain another double-digit (percentage) gain to Dow 11,000 is asking too much from this economy and the risks we still see out there."

There are also economists who question whether the economy is truly in recovery, given that it continues to lose about a quarter-million jobs a month. They say the more than 50% rally in the Dow since it closed at a low of 6,594.44 on March 5 is only a reflection that the fear of the economy toppling into a full-fledged depression has abated.

"We're not at Armageddon anymore, so of course you should have some kind of rally," said Rich Yamarone, director of economic research at Argus Research. "But I think there's a bubble-like atmosphere going on here in the rush back to 10,000. Caution should rule the day. We're not out of the woods yet."

Several experts point out than many of the relatively strong earnings reports helping to lift the markets in recent days are being driven by cost cuts, rather than strong revenue growth that would be a better indicator of consumers and businesses being willing to spend again. If businesses keep cutting costs to make the numbers that Wall Street wants to see, that can only put more downward pressure on jobs and wages, and result in weaker economic growth or another downturn.

"The companies are cutting fat, and in many cases cutting bone and muscle. There's no organic economic growth there," said Yamarone.

Barry Ritholtz, CEO and director of equity research at Fusion IQ, said that despite their reputation as a leading indicator, the stock markets do a terrible job forecasting the economy.

"Beware of economists pointing to the stock market," he said. "The rallies tend to be false starts because it's a reaction to what came before. The sell-offs tend to be overdone because, as they gain momentum, they lead to panics."

Ritholtz said comparisons of current earnings to those of a year ago or stock levels to the lows of earlier this year greatly exaggerate the strength even the market sees in the economic outlook.

"It's like saying the Detroit Lions have better year-over-year comparisons because they're no longer winless," he said about the football team that went 0-16 in 2008, but has won one of five games so far this year. "But they're still in last place and they're not winning the Super Bowl."

Another reason that comparisons to Dow levels of a year ago are risky is that two of the more troubled components -- General Motors and Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) -- were dropped and replaced by stronger companies such as Cisco Systems (CSCO, Fortune 500) and Travelers Cos. (TRV, Fortune 500) in June.

Without those changes the Dow would be almost 100 points lower now than it is with the stronger companies, although precise comparisons are difficult since GM shares are no longer traded on the New York Stock Exchange.

"You take out the worst, put in the best, and by definition you'll get better numbers," said Yamarone. To top of page
 
 

 
williamyeo
    15-Oct-2009 22:50  
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Sure make (a profit or a loss)?

handon      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:01) Posted:

time to short.... sure make.... hehe.... Smiley

 
 
handon
    15-Oct-2009 22:38  
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think not difficult to pocket 80 pts... hehe... Smiley

idesa168      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:31) Posted:

I don;t think I will like to short now. Market is on uptrend now. Chnaces of going down is slimmer than going up. I am going to sit through this gyration where many will think 10,000 is the finishing line. I feel that 10,500 before any downturn.

Good luck to you handon! If you win I will lose...hahaha!



handon      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:01) Posted:

time to short.... sure make.... hehe.... Smiley


 
 
idesa168
    15-Oct-2009 22:31  
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I don;t think I will like to short now. Market is on uptrend now. Chnaces of going down is slimmer than going up. I am going to sit through this gyration where many will think 10,000 is the finishing line. I feel that 10,500 before any downturn.

Good luck to you handon! If you win I will lose...hahaha!



handon      ( Date: 15-Oct-2009 22:01) Posted:

time to short.... sure make.... hehe.... Smiley

 
 
handon
    15-Oct-2009 22:29  
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today oreli like tat.... tomolo sure got Friday Effect....

short form is FE... hehe.... Smiley

short got better advantage... Smiley



 

 
ozone2002
    15-Oct-2009 22:10  
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Don't trust Dow 10,000

The stock market is supposed to be a leading indicator, predicting what happens next. But the rally doesn't mean the nation's economic woes are over.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As the Dow closed above 10,000 for the first time in more than a year Wednesday, economists cautioned that the blue-chip average shouldn't be seen as giving a green light to the economy.

The stock market is what is known as a leading economic indicator, as investors place bets on how strong they believe company results and the broader economy will be in the near future.

Lately, there has been a growing consensus among both investors and economists that the battered U.S. economy hit bottom and turned around earlier this year, and is now in a recovery.

The Federal Reserve said economic activity has "picked up" in its statement after its Sept. 23 meeting, and about 80% of leading economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics agreed in a survey earlier this month that the recovery has begun.

But even economists who agree the economy is in recovery say that growth will be slow and difficult, with continued job losses, tight credit and further declines in home prices. And even some who believe that the current Dow 10,000 level is justified say there's still a significant risk that the economy will take a step backward.

"One of the great challenges is whether consumers and small businesses come along with this recovery," said John Silvia, chief economist with Wells Fargo. "If they don't, you either sit at 10,000 or slip back to 9,500. To sustain another double-digit (percentage) gain to Dow 11,000 is asking too much from this economy and the risks we still see out there."

There are also economists who question whether the economy is truly in recovery, given that it continues to lose about a quarter-million jobs a month. They say the more than 50% rally in the Dow since it closed at a low of 6,594.44 on March 5 is only a reflection that the fear of the economy toppling into a full-fledged depression has abated.

"We're not at Armageddon anymore, so of course you should have some kind of rally," said Rich Yamarone, director of economic research at Argus Research. "But I think there's a bubble-like atmosphere going on here in the rush back to 10,000. Caution should rule the day. We're not out of the woods yet."

Several experts point out than many of the relatively strong earnings reports helping to lift the markets in recent days are being driven by cost cuts, rather than strong revenue growth that would be a better indicator of consumers and businesses being willing to spend again. If businesses keep cutting costs to make the numbers that Wall Street wants to see, that can only put more downward pressure on jobs and wages, and result in weaker economic growth or another downturn.

"The companies are cutting fat, and in many cases cutting bone and muscle. There's no organic economic growth there," said Yamarone.

Barry Ritholtz, CEO and director of equity research at Fusion IQ, said that despite their reputation as a leading indicator, the stock markets do a terrible job forecasting the economy.

"Beware of economists pointing to the stock market," he said. "The rallies tend to be false starts because it's a reaction to what came before. The sell-offs tend to be overdone because, as they gain momentum, they lead to panics."

Ritholtz said comparisons of current earnings to those of a year ago or stock levels to the lows of earlier this year greatly exaggerate the strength even the market sees in the economic outlook.

"It's like saying the Detroit Lions have better year-over-year comparisons because they're no longer winless," he said about the football team that went 0-16 in 2008, but has won one of five games so far this year. "But they're still in last place and they're not winning the Super Bowl."

Another reason that comparisons to Dow levels of a year ago are risky is that two of the more troubled components -- General Motors and Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) -- were dropped and replaced by stronger companies such as Cisco Systems (CSCO, Fortune 500) and Travelers Cos. (TRV, Fortune 500) in June.

Without those changes the Dow would be almost 100 points lower now than it is with the stronger companies, although precise comparisons are difficult since GM shares are no longer traded on the New York Stock Exchange.

"You take out the worst, put in the best, and by definition you'll get better numbers," said Yamarone. To top of page

 
 
handon
    15-Oct-2009 22:01  
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time to short.... sure make.... hehe.... Smiley
 
 
williamyeo
    15-Oct-2009 20:37  
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Dow_Futures* 9912.00 -40.00 -0.4%
 
 
risktaker
    15-Oct-2009 19:51  
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dont worry about DOW :) Being Supported
 
 
niuyear
    15-Oct-2009 12:56  
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I think China is now very worried of the US dollars sliding daily....after buying more and more US bad debt since last year,  China has become 'primary holder' of US treasury.......

 

China needs to diversify its foreign exchange reserves basket," said Zhang Ming, economist with the Institute of Finance and Banking at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. "Its holdings of these treasuries face the danger of a price drop as the US is expected to issue more bonds to stimulate its economy," he told China Daily.

With US interest rates at near-zero levels, the dollar's value may slide, and its recent strong rally may not sustain, economists said. The sliding dollar will push down treasury debt prices, economists said.



erictkw      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 17:22) Posted:

Oct. 14, 2009, 4:50 a.m. EDT

Geithner: Confidence stabilizing dollar -- report



By William L. Watts


LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Investors are confident in the U.S. government's ability to maintain sustainable growth, which in turn has helped stabilize the value of dollar assets, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told Beijing-based magazine Caijing, in an interview published Wednesday. Geithner was quoted as telling the magazine that China and the United States have a shared interest in safeguarding the value of the dollar. "Our interest is in trying to make sure both American and global investors know that U.S. markets are strong in liquidity and offer stability," he said, according to the report

 

 
risktaker
    15-Oct-2009 06:20  
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There we go 10,000 mark :)

Good luck guys Huat ah :P



risktaker      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 11:54) Posted:

I expect DJ will be testing 10,000 mark tonight :)

 
 
richtan
    15-Oct-2009 01:28  
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Still remember my this post way back in July, materialised:

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The Dow Will Hit 10,000 in 2009


by Dr. Mark Skousen, Advisory Panelist

  • Three reasons why the Dow is going up.
  • Insights from Jeremy Siegel.
  • Why the Dow 10,000 in 2009 isn't crazy.


Dear Investment U Reader,

Wall Street has been debating the huge run-up in the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Was March the beginning of a huge rally that will take the market to new highs? Have we witnessed the proverbial "dead-cat bounce?" The prognosticators have been unsure, uncertain and uncommittal about what they see coming next...

So let me make it clear where I stand: We are in the beginning of a new bull market that will carry us to 10,000 on the Dow by year's-end - and new highs within a couple of years.

Yes, the recovery will be volatile. But now is the time to buy, despite the big run up.

No doubt there's plenty of bad news out there - rising unemployment with no end in sight, threatened tax increases on capital gains and dividends, anemic corporate profits, commercial real-estate insolvency, federal deficits, continued threats from the Middle East and Afghanistan, the specter of inflation and high interest rates among others...

This list goes on and on. But as the old saying goes, "Wall Street climbs a wall of worry."

It's all for naught - and I encourage you to look past these sideshows and distractions. I'm convinced the stock market is headed higher - a lot higher. I'll share my reasoning and tell you why Jeremy Siegel feels the same way.

Three Reasons the Dow is Going Up

Over the past few months, three things have been sticking out to me like huge blinking aircraft landing signals. Here's why we're going to keep moving up..
  • The Fed. Bernanke and the Federal Reserve are pulling out all the stops to stimulate the economy. Since September 2008, the money supply (M2) has been growing at an incredible 13% rate, one of the highest in the post-World War II period.


As Milton Friedman has demonstrated time and time again, after a lag of between six and nine months an easy money policy will cause a sharp recovery in the economy and stocks. Economists call it the "Friedman Effect."
  • Mortgage support. The Obama administration has been working hard at bailing out all the unstable banks, bad mortgages and bad assets in the economy through massive deficit spending. Essentially, the government policy is putting a floor under the residential real estate market, which will keep it from collapsing any further.
  • History sides with the bulls. Last month, I had dinner with Jeremy Siegel, professor of economics at the Wharton School and author of the bestseller "Stocks for the Long Run." He is a firm believer in looking at historical trends, something that many investors and Wall Street analysts have forgotten. And right now, the trend favors the bulls.


Well, guess what? The lag is over, and the "Friedman Effect" is taking full effect. We can expect higher stock prices and a recovery in the economy by year-end. And as a result of the administration's efforts, housing sales are on the rise and real estate prices are stabilizing.

It's why I'm so interested in real estate lately. Take a look at may last column, "Real Estate: The Buy of the Century."

http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/April/buying-real-estate.html

Adding more fuel to my position, when I sat down with Wharton's Wizard he showed me an interesting long-term chart of the S&P 500 Index.



The Wizard of Wharton's Long-Term Outlook

You'll note that every time the market hit the bottom of his long-term chart, it rallied - sharply. And that's exactly where it was in late February when I met with Professor Siegel - at the bottom.

Sure enough, in early March Wall Street rallied - and it hasn't looked back. It's now up 30% from its lows. Between you and me, he called the exact bottom of the stock market within weeks. (Of course, so did a few of our analysts as well.)

How far up can it go? I asked this precise question to Professor Siegel last month.

He told me that he has just completed a study of how well stocks do after a major crash like the one we just experienced (falling 50% from its highs). His conclusion was pretty striking: After a major bear market, stocks on average rebound 24% the first year of recovery. And just as nice, the average annual return over the next five years is 18%.

Since the Dow was around 8,300 at the first of the year, it could climb back to 10,000 by year-end. (And 18,000 by 2013.) We could comfortably hit these numbers with an additional 19% gain.

Although many believe the "easy money" has been made - and they may be right - the market will still offer plenty of profitable opportunities in the coming months. It'll be volatile, but it's certainly not too late to get aboard.

Good investing,

Mark 
 
 
 
handon
    15-Oct-2009 00:06  
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win liao... keep under the pillow... Fat FAT..... hehe.... Smiley
 
 
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    14-Oct-2009 23:20  
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SmileySmileySmileySmileySmileySmileySmileySmileySmiley

handon      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 22:21) Posted:

dun comment on the post... u r not qualified at all.... u are one of the most lousiest trader on earth.... hehe.... Smiley

risktaker      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 21:49) Posted:

See the Funds will push how far up tonight. I strongly believed it will cross 10,000 :) They are mega rich hahaha



 
 
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