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louis001
    22-Jun-2011 12:49  
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You are right...      it is important to play both side of the market.... play long and play short .....

        at the same time, it is difficult to play both sides....

                like you say it so easy , "   if one has shorted... " but your key word is " IF" ,  you know.......

iPunter      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 12:40) Posted:



You are right...

    Even the best stocks fall when it's time to fall...

          But if instead of averaging down (buy more), if one has

                shorted, and then let their profits run all the way down,

                        one would have been jumping up and down in glee.

                                  Thus it is important to play both side of the market....  Smiley


louis001      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 12:19) Posted:



compare to those 6 mths ago may who still hold x-lots of singtel (4.00+), sph (4.00+), capland(4.00+), wilmar(6.00+),,,, and also averaged down these stocks, somemore with even huge capital loss,,,,,

informatics took 3/4yrs in 2006 from 3-6cents to  22cents in July 2010 and now around 10cents today...

no matter what, don't be so sad lah unless  one put all eggs in one basket...just some words of encouragement...stay positiv


 
 
iPunter
    22-Jun-2011 12:40  
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You are right...

    Even the best stocks fall when it's time to fall...

          But if instead of averaging down (buy more), if one has

                shorted, and then let their profits run all the way down,

                        one would have been jumping up and down in glee.

                                  Thus it is important to play both side of the market....  Smiley


louis001      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 12:19) Posted:



compare to those 6 mths ago may who still hold x-lots of singtel (4.00+), sph (4.00+), capland(4.00+), wilmar(6.00+),,,, and also averaged down these stocks, somemore with even huge capital loss,,,,,

informatics took 3/4yrs in 2006 from 3-6cents to  22cents in July 2010 and now around 10cents today...

no matter what, don't be so sad lah unless  one put all eggs in one basket...just some words of encouragement...stay positive

iPunter      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 11:41) Posted:



Many who averaged down this stock

    have already gone " kaput" ...  Smiley




 
 
louis001
    22-Jun-2011 12:19  
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compare to those 6 mths ago may who still hold x-lots of singtel (4.00+), sph (4.00+), capland(4.00+), wilmar(6.00+),,,, and also averaged down these stocks, somemore with even huge capital loss,,,,,

informatics took 3/4yrs in 2006 from 3-6cents to  22cents in July 2010 and now around 10cents today...

no matter what, don't be so sad lah unless  one put all eggs in one basket...just some words of encouragement...stay positive

iPunter      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 11:41) Posted:



Many who averaged down this stock

    have already gone " kaput" ...  Smiley



 

 
iPunter
    22-Jun-2011 11:41  
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Many who averaged down this stock

    have already gone " kaput" ...  Smiley


 
 
AnthonyTan
    22-Jun-2011 11:38  
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No but have educatioanl businesses in China

plus other countries.

Hulumas      ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 11:21) Posted:

Is it S-chip?

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 21-Jun-2011 11:11) Posted:



Before share consolidation, the px. abt $0.28.

Query the CEO in the coming agm or gather enough

shareholders to call for eagm.

 

 


 
 
Hulumas
    22-Jun-2011 11:21  
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Is it S-chip?

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 21-Jun-2011 11:11) Posted:



Before share consolidation, the px. abt $0.28.

Query the CEO in the coming agm or gather enough

shareholders to call for eagm.

 

 

Belteshazzar      ( Date: 21-Jun-2011 10:13) Posted:



so share consolidation is always no good, 

3:1 will give 48/3= 16 last time 


 


 

 
AnthonyTan
    21-Jun-2011 11:11  
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Before share consolidation, the px. abt $0.28.

Query the CEO in the coming agm or gather enough

shareholders to call for eagm.

 

 

Belteshazzar      ( Date: 21-Jun-2011 10:13) Posted:



so share consolidation is always no good, 

3:1 will give 48/3= 16 last time 


 

 
 
Hulumas
    21-Jun-2011 10:40  
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Conventional cut loss behaviours easily get in trap, and hardly recovered, ( ask your own experiences, if you do not believe me ), somehow, someway, by doing cut loss, you are fulfilling the traped plan requirement by other side of market players' trap set up! Bear in mind, bear in mind to this scenario please.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 21-Jun-2011 10:01) Posted:



Hulumas, think of this stragety:-

Sometimes it's good to cut loss becos

when the stock goes lower, then you

can buy again. Many ppl think that paper

loss is ok as long as I don't sell. A loss is

a loss. Imagine holding all the paper loss

stock in your portfolio.  Isn't it very heavy.

 

Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:

Never cut loss is my buying strategy. Cut loss orientated is dominant in SGX market here. Because all the retail market players here are popular with " KIASU" behaviours. That is why once I buy, I keep buying


 
 
iPunter
    21-Jun-2011 10:31  
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Newbies must never never regard

    a loss as 'only a paper loss'.

        A loss is real, it is stated in your account.

              After you bought a stock and it goes down,

            you have already lost money. It is immaterial

                            whether you think you will make it back or not.

                                And if you have lost 50%, you will need to make 100%

                                        just to break even.  This is the reason why it is so

                                                important to control the losses...Smiley                       

           
 
 
Belteshazzar
    21-Jun-2011 10:13  
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so share consolidation is always no good, 

3:1 will give 48/3= 16 last time 


 
 

 
AnthonyTan
    21-Jun-2011 10:01  
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Hulumas, think of this stragety:-

Sometimes it's good to cut loss becos

when the stock goes lower, then you

can buy again. Many ppl think that paper

loss is ok as long as I don't sell. A loss is

a loss. Imagine holding all the paper loss

stock in your portfolio.  Isn't it very heavy.

 

Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:

Never cut loss is my buying strategy. Cut loss orientated is dominant in SGX market here. Because all the retail market players here are popular with " KIASU" behaviours. That is why once I buy, I keep buying!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:37) Posted:



In theory we set a cut loss figure

but in practice sometime it is very

difficult to do


 
 
iPunter
    21-Jun-2011 08:27  
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This is where you are mistaken...

  Cutting-loss is a sophicticated tool used by

        all the best traders all over the world over.

              They all respect trend... Hence, the saying :-

                  " Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered... Smiley


Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:

Never cut loss is my buying strategy. Cut loss orientated is dominant in SGX market here. Because all the retail market players here are popular with " KIASU" behaviours. That is why once I buy, I keep buying!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:37) Posted:



In theory we set a cut loss figure

but in practice sometime it is very

difficult to do


 
 
GuavaXF30
    21-Jun-2011 08:08  
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I don't normally want to predict how much prices can drop but I really do not have  good feeling about this counter. It has all the makings of a padding-up operation without much substance. Stock-consolidation, fund raising, all kinds of announcements about new businesses, first in China and now in Malaysia. All very PR to me. I take a leaf from old school Asian businessmen. Make money, don't have to make much noise. Otherwise attract unwarrented attention to oneself.

For management o keep coming up with all these news, it smells like desparately trying to keep price of shares up. And it's not working. What next ?

louis001      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 21:52) Posted:



nobody can tell how low a stock can go....everyone has his/her own strategy and everyone's portfolio also suffer paper loss  one way or another, big or small.....it's a question of ratio of CASH at hand vs overall.

as someone pointed out,  many stock price can be depressed further simply because of few lots or few transactions done. some may think there is no hope anymore, so  they sell away at a loss, its perfectly OK. but don't think CEO Chew Hua Seng is going to be beaten flat,  lying down without a fight....

for others who think there is further developments in future, they will hold or even buy more.....  one example to  look at informatics in 2006/7  and in July 2010....

so long as  one is comfortable with one's way, and be prepared for anything that  can happen, good or bad.

 
 
louis001
    20-Jun-2011 21:52  
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nobody can tell how low a stock can go....everyone has his/her own strategy and everyone's portfolio also suffer paper loss  one way or another, big or small.....it's a question of ratio of CASH at hand vs overall.

as someone pointed out,  many stock price can be depressed further simply because of few lots or few transactions done. some may think there is no hope anymore, so  they sell away at a loss, its perfectly OK. but don't think CEO Chew Hua Seng is going to be beaten flat,  lying down without a fight....

for others who think there is further developments in future, they will hold or even buy more.....  one example to  look at informatics in 2006/7  and in July 2010....

so long as  one is comfortable with one's way, and be prepared for anything that  can happen, good or bad.
 
 
Hulumas
    20-Jun-2011 16:11  
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Never cut loss is my buying strategy. Cut loss orientated is dominant in SGX market here. Because all the retail market players here are popular with " KIASU" behaviours. That is why once I buy, I keep buying!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:37) Posted:



In theory we set a cut loss figure

but in practice sometime it is very

difficult to do.

Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:28) Posted:

As low as you may think so? I have this stock on huge paper loss already


 

 
AnthonyTan
    20-Jun-2011 15:37  
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In theory we set a cut loss figure

but in practice sometime it is very

difficult to do.

Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:28) Posted:

As low as you may think so? I have this stock on huge paper loss already!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:02) Posted:

How low can this stock goes??????


 
 
Hulumas
    20-Jun-2011 15:28  
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As low as you may think so? I have this stock on huge paper loss already!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:02) Posted:

How low can this stock goes??????

 
 
alexchia01
    20-Jun-2011 15:17  
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I'm also asking the same question.

I guess many people don't consider Educational Stocks as profitable and attractive as other sectors.

This surely will worth something, just not as high as other more popular stocks.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 20-Jun-2011 15:02) Posted:

How low can this stock goes??????

 
 
AnthonyTan
    20-Jun-2011 15:02  
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How low can this stock goes??????
 
 
AnthonyTan
    20-Jun-2011 09:12  
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Share px. below $0.50 lor.

Project in Iskandar does not attract investor

at all. Not vested yet. Cheers
 
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