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Ipunter has the answer. He said, don't play play with stocks.

. I agree.
cOnversiOn scheme has CATCH 22 UNcertainties.
gOOd fOr the cOmpany but may nOt be gOOd fOr cOnvertEEs
cOnversiOn PRiCE UNcertainty
cOnversiOn allOcatiOn UNcertainty
cOnversiOn cOst at 3% + is tOO HiGH with abOve UNcertainties
cOnversiOn periOd is tOO lOng with current market UNcertainty
why Oceanus seems to cause misery to its loyal shareholders.
No matter how it tried to boost its value with initiative, it fell short of interest from major deep pocket investors whom will make the difference when they took note of a company and buy its shares in huge volume....
From the current action is either its a target of shortist or existing holders gave up and dump to explore greener pasture elsewhere. Resigned.
But there will be renewed interest from other major incomer at the eleventh hour of this buy now and op to trade in Taiwan thing :)
Good Luck..
pharoah88 ( Date: 03-May-2010 16:06) Posted:
GiViNG late cOmers a share and
having everyone's fEEt wEt is
UNrEwarding and UNattractivE |
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GiViNG late cOmers a share and
having everyone's fEEt wEt is
UNrEwarding and UNattractivE
It is BETTER to have FULL ALLOCATION
On First Come First Serve Basis
tO be FAIR and REWARD the BRAVE
Busta1 ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 23:26) Posted:
That's correct. (a) and (b) are payable to UOBKH upon application.
(c) will be deducted from the proceeds of the TDR. You also have to add 7% GST to it.
Note that most likely you will not get 100% allocation, so (c) will be lesser.
cysnotts ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:
Hi Busta1 or others,
Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]
a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST |
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26,727,000 S$0.39 +S$0.01
Friday: 30 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
STi STiLL in DOW PHOBIA
STi +15.6
HK +329.67
WOW
3% @ S$1,740
gOOd fEE fOr UOB
cysnotts ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:
Hi Busta1 or others,
Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]
a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST
Busta1 ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:
It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot. So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much. |
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Thursday: 29 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
S$0.380 +S$0.005
DOW PHOBIA
That's correct. (a) and (b) are payable to UOBKH upon application.
(c) will be deducted from the proceeds of the TDR. You also have to add 7% GST to it.
Note that most likely you will not get 100% allocation, so (c) will be lesser.
cysnotts ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:
Hi Busta1 or others,
Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]
a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST
Busta1 ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:
It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot. So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much. |
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S$0.375 -S$0.005
Wednesday: 28 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
2932.04 -59.64
STi CORRECTION
GREECE CONTAGION
THANK YOU FOR ASKING
YOU ARE REALLY HAPPY in this GAME
BECAUSE YOU HAVE MASTERED THE GAME
happytrading ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 20:27) Posted:
Hey Pharoah88
How come you post everywhere the same thing one.
What are you trying to put across, can share or not?
pharoah88 ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:
Tuesday: 27 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
S$0.380 -S$0.005
TODAY is prOfit TAKiNG DAY.
STi 2991.680 -10.940
HSI -325
SSE -61 |
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It is SUPPOSED to be MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN
PUTTING CASH IN THE CPF or BANKS
OTHERWISE WHY BOTHER TO TRADE / INVEST ?
pharoah88 ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 11:19) Posted:
it is UNWISE and NOT WORTHWHILE
if TRADING / INVESTING CAUSES
BOTH MENTAL & PHYSIOLOGICAL
HEALTH HAZARDS AND SICKNESSES
* * * * * * * *
TRADING AND INVESTING ARE SUPPOSED TO BRING HAPPINESS & WEALTH |
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it is UNWISE and NOT WORTHWHILE
if TRADING / INVESTING CAUSES
BOTH MENTAL & PHYSIOLOGICAL
HEALTH HAZARDS AND SICKNESSES
* * * * * * * *
TRADING AND INVESTING ARE SUPPOSED TO BRING HAPPINESS & WEALTH
I observed that Quite a number of traders and investors became so FEARFUL and INTOLERANT.
Because they thought that they were either UNLUCKY or Practice their TA / FA / LA WRONGLY
That ONLY their OWN COUNTERS' PRiCES FELL.
SO i try it TRANSPARENT that it is an OVERALL MAREKT PROFIT TAKING DAY.
I realised that SOME of them are STILL in DOUBTS.
In fact, last evening both TV Channel 8 and CNA reported that STI fell yesterday due to PROFIT TAKING.
I dOn't want them to BLAME THEMSELVES
when ACTUALLY the MARKET is BEYOND THEIR CONTROL
and the FALL is NOT THEIR FAULT
happytrading ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 20:27) Posted:
Hey Pharoah88
How come you post everywhere the same thing one.
What are you trying to put across, can share or not?
pharoah88 ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:
Tuesday: 27 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
S$0.380 -S$0.005
TODAY is prOfit TAKiNG DAY.
STi 2991.680 -10.940
HSI -325
SSE -61 |
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Hi Busta1 or others,
Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]
a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GSTBusta1 ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:
It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot. So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much.
God_of_War ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:15) Posted:
That mean is like ti-gan/ lucky draw. Than no point buy for the sick of it.
Wait got stuck......... |
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he practise typing lah...hehehe
Hey Pharoah88
How come you post everywhere the same thing one.
What are you trying to put across, can share or not?
pharoah88 ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:
Tuesday: 27 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
S$0.380 -S$0.005
TODAY is prOfit TAKiNG DAY.
STi 2991.680 -10.940
HSI -325
SSE -61 |
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Tuesday: 27 APRIL 2010 CLOSING
S$0.380 -S$0.005
TODAY is prOfit TAKiNG DAY.
STi 2991.680 -10.940
HSI -325
SSE -61
That is why rules and regulations, laws and moral values, ethics and human kindness must have high priority for humans to remain as humans and not as beasts. But it is always hoped that there must be a good authority over these things.
Yup...
It's the
law of the jungle in action...
where 'dog eats dog'...