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i believe she mentioned bunnie yesterday..

yes geojam, do tell us of your adventures in building this house... if it gona take 2 years, perhaps you are talking of Aussieland?

 

oh okay....as in 'buan lat' ...black jack...*enlightenment*

sheesh. and there i was thinking she was a poofy little bunnie. :(

 

If I'm not wrong "bun-bun" is meant to be "Double-Ace", as in bun lat.

 

chinkiasu, thank you very much for the rose. :)))

keke, bunnieeee! geojam is willing to adopt us! keke. quick, call godpa!

heehee. :P on a more serious note, where are you building your house that it takes 2 years? and em. no offence..but if you don't read statements and don't do TA, you must have quite some sleepless nights with your stock holdings....

well, what other counters are you holding then? i rem reading somewhere that you're holding onto st engg. if you like, i could keep an eye now and then on your holdings for ya. (assuming you're not holding a gazillion counters!) of course, any call i make is solely my opinion, and as always, investors make up their own mind, yah. so caveat emptor.

hm. now that he's mentioned it, bunbun, are you a roti bun or a bunnie? i always thought you were a rabbit bunnie....*confused*

actually, i think building your own house takes a lot of work and must be quite stressful instructing architects and engineers AND workers. plus, there's all the nitty gritty regulations and laws to deal with.

 

hi Geojam, thanks for the welcome..sir!

so nice to hear you r building your own house, must be quite fun and shiok..

am I really chinkiasu? actually I hope not.. but I call myself so to remind myself of my roots..

 

Hi elf and bun bun(like roti bun)

Oh yes,i hope to adopt 2 of u not for $$$$ but for me to pick ur brains for share opinions,views,criticism etc...

I do not go into details like TA etc..

I do not even like to read the finacials statement of the companies.

 

Hi everybody,and also chinkiasu(welcome)

No i have not disappear just that i am building my house and have to go to site to see and discuss things with the building supervisor etc...

It takes 2 years ,u would not believe this,to build a simple 2 storey house.In spore it probably takes 6 months.

BTW,ur discussion abot immortality is too chim for a secondary 5 student to  uderstand.So i cannot join in  the discussion.

As for man,once they ask President Regean,ithink.They ask him whether sex is on his agenda.He replied that it is not on the agenda but always on his mind.

BTW are u really chinkiasu----like typical sporean??

 

i missed this, elfin,  "when people say they want immortal life, what they really mean is immortal youth." - absolutely agreed.. in the Christian story, the belief is that it will be a transformed body.. even neither male or female.. just character & personality (may be memory) is retained...

I leave ipunter to comment on the taoist/buddhist perspective.. I should refrain from commenting the muslim view..

 

i am quite uncertain of which line of topic to post in this thread that is being raised as they are all very interesting

let me try to catchup with elfin's latest... love is a many splendid thing..

i think a man is equally capable of both.. it depends of your defination of love

if love is just to have sex.. then the biological makeup takes over..

or love is to always have that person on your mind and you want to always to do things for him/her etc , share moments with, put her as the most important person in your live, etc then it is not possible to have so many people for you to care for..

 

woa, I have only gone to nap (cos of jet lag) for a while and so many interesting chats already....!

first, many thanks, elfin for the   *leaf badge!* & (applause) warm welcome, may I offer in return a rose @)--))-----. with a bow

Somehow, I share your elfin perpective...  eternity can be hellish if we do not have the character for it... e.g if I live to 200 years, all my friends would be gone, and i would be the most lonely even bored person.. or if I cannot tahan someone, and I have to live with him or her forever?

 

It is the bad teachings of the Rael guy regarding promtiscuity and sexual freedom (among adults) that make people scorn him.



I wonder if the Aliens really taught that to him, assuming he did meet them. I would rather think that it is his own 'invention'. Imagine the spectre of AIDS and other sexual diseases that will result, although there may be advanced drugs to cure them. I used to think that AIDs is a divinely sent measure to check mankind's sexual follies. And yet now this Rael promotes prosmicuity.



If not for this disdainful sexual aspect, I am sure many more people would subscribe to the Rael teachings, simply because it satisfactorily explains so many of the mysteries in the world and existence, particlulary Intelligent Design .

 

ahaha. ok, enough of serious topics for now. weekend's time for some mischief. let's stir things up. :P

in light of fairygal's posts on true love etc in SPC. would like to poll the predominantly male crowd here: how many of you actually believe in that?

or am i being realistic to say that no guy is ever totally faithful, and it's only a question of opportunity and/or guts which determines if he strays? that it is possible for him to love more than one woman at a time, whether or not he's in relationships with them?

and that (this follows a drinking night out with guy friends last night, you understand), guys really don't think as much as females do; they like girls quite simply: easy on the eye, easy on the mind, and preferably easy on the wallet.  (to quote a fren)

ladies, your opinions too?

whee. heehee.

 

actually there is some sense in his words. things like GM food to save hungry people etc, these were the original dreams of the scientists who worked on the Green Revolution too, before it got hijacked by all your big, greedy corporations et al.

yes, the words, the sense of it all, and not the speaker.

must say i disagree with his sensual meditation thing tho; ideally it might be a good idea, esp for a dedicated couple, but realistically it opens the door for paedophilia and all that. i'd generally consider myself open-minded and reasonable, but the one thing i will not tolerate for any reason is paedophilia.

Think, no matter how screwed up you are, you never touch children that way.

 

Although many people (majority of people on earth) regard this Rael guy as a modern crackpot, one should really disregard the man and focus attention on the theories. Then, if one put some deeper thought into everyday things like ferocious man-eating dinosaurs, intricate peacocks, unlimited species of creatures, 'mercilessly created' conjoined twins, shemales, 'eternal' life, certain scriptural 'mysteries'... etc, etc, one will (hopefully) begin to ponder the possibilty of the truth, no matter in what manner it is revealed or by whom.

 

do we really experience and feel more, or do we only believe we feel more?

admittedly it gets more complex as one grows older (eg you can hate yet respect a person at the same time), but is this only because we've been socialised--ie, learnt to be PC and so deny your true emotions, at least in public--or is it real growth? act do babies forget or simply stuff early memories somewhere deep in their subconscious?

sometimes i think children are better to be around with. and animals. at least there's truth in them, and they call it as it is, no need for politics or backstabbing ala so many office politics you find in the working world.  :(

 

hmm. SPC will RISE!!! hahaha



I believe some things are created for a purpose while some a just accidents. we tend to over-analyse things man.



i think feotus' brain is not that developed yet. they have limited range of emotions and memory too. only when the brain develops, then we experience and feel more

 

Rael, the Frenchman who said he met aliens in 1973 and went to their planet, (but did not show any prove to authenticate it, except their message to him) has some very sensible theories about creation of life on earth.

The theories he expounded are so much, much more believable compared with all other existing theories and philosophies.

 

the other word you could perhaps be searching for is teleology.

aka the idea that all things are created for a purpose.

sometimes i can't help wondering if there was actually no purpose tho, and we're just accidents of atoms and molecules.

how does sentience come about anyway? The definition of our species: homo sapiens. the word sapiens comes from sentience, i.e., thinking beings.

of course, a cynic would say that we're anything but that. haha. or as mark twain says, 'we do no end of feeling, and mistake it for thinking.'

actually, i've always wondered whether babies remember what they thought/felt in the womb.

 

How about "Creationism" and "Intelligent Design", then...

To me, this topic is real facsinating...

I am not referring to the usual supernatural 'creator' in which someone supernatural created all things and such... What I do mean is there could possibly be some intelligent human 'species' out there somewhere who had a hand in the beginnings of natural life on earth. I shall be scouring the goooogle on this fascinating topic.

 

ok...this is going to sound crazy, especially coming from an elf species, but, given a choice, i would not take immortality, be it immortal youth or immortal life.



'cos i want to know at least once, what it's like to be young, to grow old, to feel, and dream, and be disappointed and finally to learn grace. The so-called positive emotions (love, happiness, laughter) are great, but it's the negatives that define the positive. Without knowing how it's like to be angry, depressed, poor or whatever, how can you ever appreciate happiness? or know how to be kind.

If it is The Way and buddhism you're talking about, then one of the key principles is the concept of impermance (anicca). to grow is to let go. Residing in a permanent state of youth/bliss is of course infinitely desirable, but then, you'd see only one facet of the crystal and not the entire enormity of life itself.

wouldn't you? i don't know.

and let me just say here that i'm a free-thinker ah. no religion but have read most of the scriptures/philos of the major ones.