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singaporegal
    10-Oct-2006 12:49  
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tsk tsk.... comparing stocks to women...
 
 
compass
    10-Oct-2006 12:46  
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savvysamyeo, many thanks for your wise guidance. the world is full of so many new gals and guys. the temptation is too hard to resist! it is fortunate that I do not flirt around with a REAL person! u can say I am sort of living out my fantasy in the mkt right now. it keeps the virtual wild oats alive and everyday it is always exciting though not climaxing! Our spouse is for keeps while we can flirt around without any damage to our marital relationship. Where else can one find such safe desire than in the stock mkt? Right now there are 2 new girls in town and wow been busy all the time. Ofcourse I will alway peep in to see how is my wife doing...steady la.
 
 
savvysamyeo
    10-Oct-2006 11:03  
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Hello compass, I really find it invgorating to have exchanges with your generation who are so candid and expressive.

" mkt is for us to flirt, marry and divorce. Go to the next pretty girl on the block, drop her off when the next handsome gay comes around. This is what the mkt all about."

When I was younger I also sowed the wild oats. But now how I wished that I have your youth together with the wisdom and decisiveness of maturity. Be careful with flirtng and picking the wild flowers for we  live in perilous times, take care that we avoid the STDs and strange infections. Now with your limited resources it would be prudent to observe the imprudence of carelessness and exercise care in chancing your life resources in the open markets we are exposed to in these merciless times. By all means have your excitement but deep down the core must be rational and solid. A good counter which will double in 2 years is a more prospectful "wife" to keep than flitting from one uncertainties to another for ultimately realities must sink in that "pick ups" by nature are dangerous and  deleterious to body and wealth. Cheerio.



 

 
compass
    10-Oct-2006 10:14  
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savvysamyeo, while all agree with you on core holdings, the difference here is we are the small retail investors. Money needs to be recycled, reinvested with returns that are quick also. While this WasteTo Energy concept is a good new fashion remake for Enersave, wont we be WastingOurPreciousLimited$$$s if we just wait wait wait. By monitoring the few counters of what I intent to buy and keep a little while I find that this one is meant for very old man and old aunties to keep long long. Young ones like us need to spare with the  mkts. As I read somewhere in other forum, mkt is for us to flirt, marry and divorce. Go to the next pretty girl on the block, drop her off when the next handsome gay comes around. This is what the mkt all about. Even though this counter is stii on my radar screen.
 
 
cashiertan
    10-Oct-2006 01:35  
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http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/061009/3/43xra.html



good news or bad news for cenersave?
 
 
savvysamyeo
    10-Oct-2006 00:53  
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compass, reputable funds sometimes have core holdings which contain stocks which perform splendidly year after year at 20% to 30% annualised clips. If you think Ceners is such a stock with optimistic growth potentials one should not slay the goose that lays the golden eggs too early. We are not concerned with one year's outlook and pulling out the plants so so after sowing.
 

 
compass
    10-Oct-2006 00:10  
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MasterT53 We have noted increased fund participations, I advise that smaller investors take this counter seriously for the mid to longer term and not trade excessively, when we target a company's stock like Cenersave we are looking at 20% to 30% annual gain
since placement was done at 0.165 a 20% will be 0.198 and 30% will be 0.2145.already done, right?
 
 
teeth53
    09-Oct-2006 22:56  
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when will the figures kick in on carbon credits.? (Yr 2008- China Oylampic yr)

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This company is also quite sophisticated in taking advantage of the carbon unit trading with international trading houses.

sometimes when the big funds are given a mandate they will buy within a range and if the price looks like it is going to fly from their range, they will at the last moment throw some shares to depress it for the next day's acumulation. We have noted increased fund participations, I advise that smaller investors take this counter seriously for the mid to longer term and not trade excessively, when we target a company's stock like Cenersave we are looking at 20% to 30% annual gain
 
 
compass
    09-Oct-2006 21:52  
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MasterT53,  when will the figures kick in on carbon credits? how many biomass plants are active now? notice the price is very stuck in a tight range from 0.18 to 0.19, great for scalping not great from keeping long term. When will the results be out. small vested.
 
 
teeth53
    09-Oct-2006 20:08  
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FYI: S'pore (XFN-ASIA) - China Enersave Ltd has agreed to sell Certified Emission Reductions (CERs), commonly known as carbon credits, generated by its bio-mass products to EcoSecurities Group PLC of the UK. 

 It did not say how many it would sell or how much it would sell them for. 

"Sale of CERs of its biomass projects is expected to create another significant revenue stream for the group, in addition to the plants' traditional cash flows from the sale of electricity and other by-products."

China Enersave said that each of the three biomass power plants it intends to build in China can create up to 150,000 tons-worth of CERs and each CER represents the equivalent of one tonne of carbon dioxide. They can be traded through the mechanism established by the Kyoto Protocol. 

"This has engendered an increasingly active carbon trading market and potential carbon revenues for developing countries such as China and India," China Enersave said.
 

 
teeth53
    08-Oct-2006 12:05  
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FYI: It group Amada grp holding (CEnersave subsidairy) is to undertake the consideration net profit of Amada Industries P/L and it subsidairy "AMIGOS" for financial year ending 31 Dec 2006 shall estimated not be less than US$4.9 million.

Amada Prudential Vietnam enter into agreement to invest US$1.5 million in CEnersave Subsidiary company called Amigos, a whole own subsidiary of Amanda Industry P/L, an associated company of China Enersave. Prudential extended with in mind a further US$3.5 mil loan agreement to Amigos. a Maintenance, Industrial, General & Offshore Services Co Ltd (?AMIGOS?) has secured $9 mil of new orders , in all it secured total orders in excess of 21 mil and current order book of approximately $41 mil. including these orders are scheduled to be delivered in 2007 and expected to have a +ve impact on d Co result years ending 2007.

5) In view of flavourable and positive development of it underlying business. The group has condition call option to execise within 12 months from 18 April 2006 for additional 28% equity stake in Amada Industries pte ltd. It own 23% equity stake and may execise it call option within 6 months bringing it equity stake to 51%.
 
 
teeth53
    08-Oct-2006 00:26  
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FYI: Just to high light ur view

This has not escape the purviews of Middle East and EU fund managers who see in this counter a potential blue chip in the making. This company is also quite sophisticated in taking advantage of the carbon unit trading with international trading houses.

I'm waiting for this to happen. When it come, will come. What will be, will be.
 
 
teeth53
    08-Oct-2006 00:17  
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Maybe the word use should on hind slight instead of rather using in.... or outside.
 
 
teeth53
    08-Oct-2006 00:13  
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Well rounded explaination and hard work. U has put into this stock called Cnersave or China Enersave. It never escape from my eyes about who U are as i believe U a in this line for a long times. Oso all thk to MR Koo Ah Seang Cnersave CEO and his team.

The recent success in their placement of 405 million shares to respected world class investment houses at 16.5c should be an obvious indications of things to come. These info. are evident and accessible to one who will do the research and have access to the "buzz" of the investment community. So basically it is not inside or outside fishwifes' talks but diligent work to identify opportunities. This is our modus operandi which has been successful. I take trouble to tell you these is because of the incredible vacuity of so many investors who are so much poorer for their reckless enthusiasm in the recent Citi/Heshe/OHL saga.

DBS Vickers Securities (Research) has been assigned by SGX MAS reseach incentive scheme for coverage on CEnersave by it scheme administrator.

Two high possibilities is in the card. New recommendation prices and movement of going to main board.

Thank Again. Savvysamyeo
 
 
savvysamyeo
    07-Oct-2006 16:43  
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Well teeth since I am free now , inside, outside? It's all hard work investing in the market. Firstly a grasp of socio-political-economic macro picture of the world and targeted country is important. Nobody can doubt that China will be where the action is in the next generation, and the fact that the leadership now is younger, more cosmopolitant and economically orientated is an added bonus. Supplying the basic needs of China and cleaning up the environment are top priority now; it is our good fortune that due to astute Gov. to Gov. developoments many young Chinese companies have chosen to list themselves here because of the constraints of their local factors. Cenersave though not an indigeneous chinese co. is none the less going to be part of the Chinese growth and developments in the WTE industry of which she is a first mover. This has not escape the purviews of ME and EU fund managers who see in this counter a potential blue chip in the making.This company is also quite sophisticated in taking advantage of the carbon unit trading with international trading houses. The recent success in their placement of 405 million shares to respected world class investment houses at 16.5c should be an obvious indications of things to come. These info. are evident and accessible to one who will do the research and have access to the "buzz" of the investment community. So basically it is not inside or outside fishwifes' talks but diligent work to identify opportunities. This is our modus operandi which has been successful. I take trouble to tell you these is because of the incredible vacuity of so many investors who are so much poorer for their reckless enthusiasm in the recent Citi/Heshe/OHL saga. Money, wealth do not come easily to most ,it is by din of hard work and intelligence from experience that one has a more than even chance of succeeding.
 

 
teeth53
    07-Oct-2006 16:15  
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Well!!, i have limited resouces, so will have to choose those stocks whch move just a liitle faster then other and usually i go for ipo stuffs. Still vested in Cnersave for a long long times liao & in and out of it. thk Savvysamyeo.
 
 
teeth53
    07-Oct-2006 16:00  
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Thk, good to know at least ur info come from in... instead of outside, should i say that this stock should move when it come, will come rite.
 
 
savvysamyeo
    07-Oct-2006 15:32  
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Teeth, no need to call on the big boys. They know this company is going places and have been accumulating Cenersave since middle of Sept. Do not be fooled by the end of the day price, sometimes when the big funds are given a mandate they will buy within a range and if the price looks like it is going to fly from their range, they will at the last moment throw some shares to depress it for the next day's acumulation. We have been accumulating too at 16c to 18c for long term investment and have noted increased fund participations, I advise that smaller investors take this counter seriously for the mid to longer term and not trade excessively, when we target a company's stock like Cenersave we are looking at 20% to 30% annual gain unless fundamentals change drastically. Good luck.
 
 
teeth53
    07-Oct-2006 13:46  
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Soli lahh... i now know oni, maybe call on Angmo, Dutch, their share is below 5%, no need to declare one when they buy up.
 
 
derekchong
    07-Oct-2006 13:28  
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don't call the Arab, fasting month cannot speculate lah.
 
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