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cheongwee
    22-Mar-2009 19:21  
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Sometimes in the near future , this thread is gonna be hot..many will post and post abt silver and gold..

That will be the time bubble is brewing hot and abt to burst...when you see this happenning....ppl toking gold and silver...it is time again for us to return to stock....DYODD...(do your own due diligent)
 
 
cheongwee
    22-Mar-2009 18:44  
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Why i say so??..is because sell down in stock may pull gold down as well, so it pay to wait for golden opportunity to buy..

I believe we see one more new low..for us to buy gold cheap..

Any silver stock???



cheongwee      ( Date: 21-Mar-2009 19:39) Posted:



There is a likelyhood for gold to go down to 850 level come summer...this is cyclical and historical...and it may not come abt...but going forward with the force of deflation...who know..

if it come jist buy with fist over hand...cant be wrong?DYODD

 
 
jeflin
    22-Mar-2009 12:02  
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This article provides excellent insight into why gold rises during periods of extreme deflation and inflation.  http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/moore031107.html

With GIC also calling on us to hold gold, I have written my thoughts on this precious metal here.
 

 
jeflin
    22-Mar-2009 11:50  
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I firmly believe in the potential of gold and any investors should allocate a portion of their portfolio to gold.

Gold is actually a good investment whether the economy is in deflation or inflation. In fact, gold outperforms all investment during deflationary cycles. When inflation comes about, gold will rise but lags behind the performance of stocks.
 
 
cheongwee
    21-Mar-2009 19:39  
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There is a likelyhood for gold to go down to 850 level come summer...this is cyclical and historical...and it may not come abt...but going forward with the force of deflation...who know..

if it come jist buy with fist over hand...cant be wrong?DYODD
 
 
baseerahmed
    20-Mar-2009 20:40  
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cheongwee,

thank you very much for ur kind advice. noted ur points too.


here's to wishing u a bountiful harvest too !

huat ah !

Smiley 

 
 

 
richtan
    20-Mar-2009 11:15  
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Hi Cheong Wee, many thanks for your reminder.

Not to worry for me, I trade based on my personal analysis of TA but I will only post if I think it is really overbought or oversold.

I will not post any buy or sell recomendation as at times I may be right n at times wrong.

Forumers must dyodd. 

 



cheongwee      ( Date: 20-Mar-2009 01:50) Posted:



baseerahamed and richtan.......i think with Ben fianlly sink the dollar...gold at 850 is a gone case..if you still waiting then you got to chase when it cross 1000..and this time it will stay there for a long time...850 is a dream for now..and most likely still the next gold bear...many yrs from now..

I was looking at 880 to buy silver, but it stay there for half a day(881)...and then it was back abt 940.due to Ben annoucnement ....i will buy time to time...i am not worried cause it is the casino money (profit) that i am betting with..i give market a chance to take it back, or the market give me bountiful harvest...

 

 
 
iPunter
    20-Mar-2009 09:16  
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Hoarding gold is the surest way to ultimate prosperity...

Some day in the far future, hoarding oxygen may do the same too...    Smiley
 
 
ozone2002
    20-Mar-2009 09:03  
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Gold made a MONSTER move last night!.. BTW anyone tried to buy physical gold from the site that AK introduced? I want to hoard all the gold b4 anyone does..keke
 
 
iPunter
    20-Mar-2009 07:33  
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With the compounding effect, one can in theory easily become a millionaire...

ie.making use of past profits to stake bigger and bigger bets until our target is achieved...

... or until we meet the black swan... hehehe... Smiley
 

 
cheongwee
    20-Mar-2009 01:50  
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baseerahamed and richtan.......i think with Ben fianlly sink the dollar...gold at 850 is a gone case..if you still waiting then you got to chase when it cross 1000..and this time it will stay there for a long time...850 is a dream for now..and most likely still the next gold bear...many yrs from now..

I was looking at 880 to buy silver, but it stay there for half a day(881)...and then it was back abt 940.due to Ben annoucnement ....i will buy time to time...i am not worried cause it is the casino money (profit) that i am betting with..i give market a chance to take it back, or the market give me bountiful harvest...

 
 
 
cheongwee
    20-Mar-2009 01:41  
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I know this will not go well with some, but if you have a 4 to 5 year horizon, why not long on citi..bac..and the like...it is a better bet than toto..

There are alway risk, but this risk is small...they got govt to back up...so why worry..just put a little here..and watch it grow.
 
 
cheongwee
    20-Mar-2009 01:36  
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I can see a gold px of 2600..and when this come about..my stock are going to be many times  over today px..my paas, ssri and the rest .will be another 10 times over ..i guess..we see..

I think the financial stock will take many years to recover...technically, they are bankrupt, but not out...i believe 70% of them will come out of the mess stronger...
 
 
cheongwee
    20-Mar-2009 01:25  
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 stock i bought in 2000 to 2002..are dirt cheap...some of my PAAS and SSRI are some 10 over times increase..i cant lose, unless the gold bull bubble burst some day...even i think today px will be consider dirt cheap if gold hit 2600...in future..i was lucky, i got friend who got me started here...i hope i share my luck with u guy here by my call..hopefully..DYODD...disclaimer.

I am confident this will come..if not i would have unload...and relax..my gold and silver stock are worth more than my personnal worth..worth more than my business many times over..it even erase my losess in SGX..

Today PAAS is up some 12%..but physical silver is 4%..that what it was said that stock have a beta of 3 to 1...1 time increase in physical px , stock go up 3 times!!!..virtually all stock esp. silver are up 2 to 3 time over physical....but on the contrary, it can also go down fast in the same manner..

But overall...the picture is UP UP UP UP and up...more than down..
 
 
cheongwee
    19-Mar-2009 23:34  
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dont flatter me, dont call me master...they are meant for master..me a gambler, speculator...but i would do it with common sense..not just tikam tikam like toto and 4D...

I think ETF is not good...why..because it consist of heavy weight counter...as we know heavy move slower..so expect it to be slow...i suggest you look at unit trust...they are still some heavy weight in the basket but at least so many...and since you may not know stock (miner) you should leave it to expert..

Be forwarn...stock are very profitable...and anything that is very profitable can also be very very unprofitable..and some stock are empty shell.

"cockroach"..means news relate to current crises...like bad news from Wall St,.......good luck.



niuyear      ( Date: 19-Mar-2009 18:27) Posted:

hi Master

What do you think of this gold counter.  Is it ok to enter at this stage again?  Also, in your post you mentioned "wait for cockroach crwling out"  What is this?? Tks

 



cheongwee      ( Date: 16-Mar-2009 23:51) Posted:

you are right if financial upheaval come about, but i dont see it happening...so ETF is just another investment vechile...

Take a look at gold and silver stock..only some are reliable...really got stuff in their mine to bet up..

Normally, with $ strengthening..gold collapse...but this time it actyually rally...side by side..why?..you find out yourself..

with the dollar going down i see dow to rally .but i believe this is just a sucker rally..

contd to vest in gold and silver...for myself..you DYODD.

near term gold may corret to 880..as stock soar...but come April...when more cockroach crawl out under the fridge...gold and silver will soar..

Even if it doesnt over time it will, with CBs pumping cash to save the economy...eill give rise to high inflation..long gold ,silver and commodities.



 

 
niuyear
    19-Mar-2009 18:27  
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hi Master

What do you think of this gold counter.  Is it ok to enter at this stage again?  Also, in your post you mentioned "wait for cockroach crwling out"  What is this?? Tks

 



cheongwee      ( Date: 16-Mar-2009 23:51) Posted:

you are right if financial upheaval come about, but i dont see it happening...so ETF is just another investment vechile...

Take a look at gold and silver stock..only some are reliable...really got stuff in their mine to bet up..

Normally, with $ strengthening..gold collapse...but this time it actyually rally...side by side..why?..you find out yourself..

with the dollar going down i see dow to rally .but i believe this is just a sucker rally..

contd to vest in gold and silver...for myself..you DYODD.

near term gold may corret to 880..as stock soar...but come April...when more cockroach crawl out under the fridge...gold and silver will soar..

Even if it doesnt over time it will, with CBs pumping cash to save the economy...eill give rise to high inflation..long gold ,silver and commodities.



ozone2002      ( Date: 16-Mar-2009 22:44) Posted:



i always had this notion that how does gold ETF acquire the gold each time somebody buys when the world's gold production has been sold out!

another ponzi scheme?


 
 
baseerahmed
    19-Mar-2009 13:37  
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Aye , Aye, Captain !

points taken !

Smiley

 
 
 
ozone2002
    19-Mar-2009 10:43  
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if the stock market has a huge rally, gold may come down to 800 levels..

but if the rally in the stock market is a false one..or a dead pussy bounce..then..

get ready for the Gold ride of ur life!..
 
 
cheongwee
    19-Mar-2009 03:31  
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What the heck...before i would lay my hand on more gold...it shoot up 49 bucks ..because Ben is going to buy 300b in long term treasury....the dollar is done for...after the rewind is over..so will be the $..it gonna drop like a rock.

You will see a 100 to 200 dollar up day for gold...you aint see nuthing yet...

Still waiting for 850...maybe..you keep dreaming..

This is what i call dow and gold will rally side by side for now still dow u-turn, but gold and silver will continue it oathe to $2600....first stop 1500 then to 1300 then next 1900,.then...then...see chart on EW for gold and silver.

 
 
 
cheongwee
    19-Mar-2009 02:11  
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Time to nimble om gold and silver,,,..they are throwing away the good for stock...

 

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Since stocks started rallying a week ago, gold and silver futures have held up magnificently against a tide of silliness that has swelled on faintly improving perceptions of the economy. We should view the price of gold, above all, as a reality check on the global Carnivale, such as it is, but there will always be times when bullion's cold, stern eye will be temporarily distracted by the irresistible hubris of a bear rally. Such as now. An unavoidable side effect of the current mini-mania for stocks has been the wild thrashing of precious metal quotes -- or more recently, the tedious flatlining of quotes until some gratuitous spasm erupts for an hour or so just to scramble the players. But such histrionics make little sense to serious investors when they probe below $900; and so, with no rationale for going lower, but no reason yet to blow the $1000 barrier to smithereens, gold will continue to seethe, waiting for the tide of silliness to recede. (Click here to sign up for a free demonstration of Hidden Pivots during market hours.)

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