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teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 16:24  
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Yap Agree..Retailers is worse off. BBs vested in 0.0224 will not lose out, others BBs will...Margin calling, contra wrong time. Ah Ben lohh...just joking.

Integrity      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 12:36) Posted:



BB can lose money sometimes and when they do, retailers are worse off.

mb7269      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 12:32) Posted:

Up or down, BB is in control..


 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 16:10  
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just re-freshing to retail players. Don get caught lao sai. 

Why prices keep going up B4 announcment?. then after announcment. What happens?. give it a thot.

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 15:35) Posted:



So whether BBs keeping popping at 6c? 5c?...still it is at least very profit to keep interest going in percentage term. (still got huge gain $$$) 

Remember - To their interest. 

They are the one with very substantial holding n with such good profit, Why don take some profit away from the table?. 

 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 16:02  
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" I quickly Q to sell at 0.070c." I  was lucky to get out, small kopi $. All thk to BBs keep popping up at 0.070c. Or else  I may get caught if I don let go.

Was watching to decide what price to Q to sell (contra) when trading price on screen was flashing  by players were changing hands very fast.

between buying Q 0.069c lots  Vs selling Q  0.070c, (about  40k lots Q-ing to sell). I took my chances to Q-ed at 0.070c , so is clear to me BBs is popping up at 0.070c.

 
Last Trades Volume Bid Volume Mid Ask Volume
0.066 115 19,008,000 18,318,000 690,000 0
0.067 641 129,855,000 105,103,000 563,000 24,189,000
0.068 1,366 290,531,000 137,020,000 7,722,000 145,789,000
0.069 771 233,971,000 121,028,000 0 112,943,000
0.070 1,521 343,774,000 65,064,000 0 278,710,000
0.071 510 127,521,000 27,210,000 0 100,311,000
0.072 138 20,631,000 8,694,000 0 11,937,000
0.073 5 1,300,000 0 0 1,300,000
TOTAL 5,067 1,166,591,000 482,437,000 8,975,000 675,179,000


 

 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:50  
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Their cost work out oni to 0.3808/shr n due to their substantial huge holding. Assuming even at 5c -6c range  before consolidation, it very substantial huge profit to look at.

Remember to their interest n not yours.

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 14:44) Posted:

At 0.3808c ( one lot) n based on last closed price of 0.067c. 17:1 mean 0.067ct x17=$1.139ct, less 0.3808ct...huat huat lohh.
Every lot stand to gain instant 200% profit after consolidation.

 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:43  
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....and the problem is players must pay up. whether is 7.6c or 6.7c

For at example. I bot at 7.6 cent (after T+3 or T+5 whatever). I need to hold...Jialat  bo..? jialat lohh. Retailers players may kena sai,  get stuck.
 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:38  
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...and just B4 consolidating 17:1 (BBs will pump n pump, the high the better)

Depending on mkt prices. Whether BBs keeping popping at 6c? 5c?...

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 15:30) Posted:



After 17:1 consolidation.

Vested BBs and substantial share owner will pump n pump and pump just above the consolidated price.

I'm expecting a huge price distribution to un-suspecting players  at whatever prices  just before it previous closing prices (the day B4 ex-all consolidation price).

nqing87      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 15:17) Posted:

not sure what u mean, but it doesnt mean u profit 200% after consolidation.. assuming u have 17 lots at 0.067, after consolidation, become 1 lot at $1.139.. 17 lots at 0.067=1 lot at 1.139.. u didnt gain or lose anything at all after consolidation.. so before & after consolidation, no difference.. 


 

 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:35  
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So whether BBs keeping popping at 6c? 5c?...still it is at least very profit to keep interest going in percentage term. (still got huge gain $$$) 

Remember - To their interest. 

They are the one with very substantial holding n with such good profit, Why don take some profit away from the table?. 
 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:30  
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After 17:1 consolidation.

Vested BBs and substantial share owner will pump n pump and pump just above the consolidated price.

I'm expecting a huge price distribution to un-suspecting players  at whatever prices  just before it previous closing prices (the day B4 ex-all consolidation price).

nqing87      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 15:17) Posted:

not sure what u mean, but it doesnt mean u profit 200% after consolidation.. assuming u have 17 lots at 0.067, after consolidation, become 1 lot at $1.139.. 17 lots at 0.067=1 lot at 1.139.. u didnt gain or lose anything at all after consolidation.. so before & after consolidation, no difference.. 

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 14:44) Posted:

At 0.3808c ( one lot) n based on last closed price of 0.067c. 17:1 mean 0.067ct x17=$1.139ct, less 0.3808ct...huat huat lohh.
Every lot stand to gain instant 200% profit after consolidation.


 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:24  
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This project will not fail BBs, their  interest is this execise will back each others up, oni  retailers may get caught chasing, buying at higher high.

For at example. I bot at 7.6 cent (after T+3 or T+5 whatever). I need to hold...Jialat o..? jialat ohh.

dragon7      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 15:12) Posted:

The deal wil not incur cash. The critical point here is at price fr the future compliance new shares. Wif zero cash deal, huge land parcels n huge stake, tan sri has more to lose if the land developments failed. Too big stake fr him to unload. The iskandar alredi in the limelight n the government wont easily let any project to tarnish the whole iskandar development.

 
 
nqing87
    21-Sep-2013 15:17  
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not sure what u mean, but it doesnt mean u profit 200% after consolidation.. assuming u have 17 lots at 0.067, after consolidation, become 1 lot at $1.139.. 17 lots at 0.067=1 lot at 1.139.. u didnt gain or lose anything at all after consolidation.. so before & after consolidation, no difference.. 

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 14:44) Posted:

At 0.3808c ( one lot) n based on last closed price of 0.067c. 17:1 mean 0.067ct x17=$1.139ct, less 0.3808ct...huat huat lohh.
Every lot stand to gain instant 200% profit after consolidation.

 

 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:16  
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After 17:1 consolidation. I'm expecting a huge price distribution and vested BBs and substantial share owner  will pump n pump and pump....Retailers can sell n sell and sell...Take ur profit on the very first opening day.

teeth53 thot - just sharing n promoting stk /shr trading interest in SJ.

shuncheng      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 08:34) Posted:

Usually consolidation of stock means price to come down. Split means up like Noble was 3.60 split 1/2 should be 1.8 but went up higher that was months back

 
 
dragon7
    21-Sep-2013 15:12  
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The deal wil not incur cash. The critical point here is at price fr the future compliance new shares. Wif zero cash deal, huge land parcels n huge stake, tan sri has more to lose if the land developments failed. Too big stake fr him to unload. The iskandar alredi in the limelight n the government wont easily let any project to tarnish the whole iskandar development.
 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 15:00  
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All Thk to BBs for popping up@0.070c. So whether BBs keeping popping at 6c? 5c?...still it is at least very profit to keep interest going in percentage term. Remember they are the one with very substantial, holding many hundred of millions of share.

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 11:48) Posted:



Albedo opening, got a shock, took my chances n risk, got it, small speculated punch n  quicly Q to sell at 0.070c, was lucky to get out for small kopi $. All thk to BBs keep popping up at 0.070c. I may get caught if I don let go.

Bot on weakness n sell into strength - just to gauge fine tune my analysis. Must remind myself -  Mai tham sim.

novice_trader      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 22:58) Posted:

Sold 0.069... Don't want to keep this baby over the weekend... Could not sell at 0.073, the only can sell at 0.069... Zzzzz....


 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 14:44  
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At 0.3808c ( one lot) n based on last closed price of 0.067c. 17:1 mean 0.067ct x17=$1.139ct, less 0.3808ct...huat huat lohh.
Every lot stand to gain instant 200% profit after consolidation.
 
 
dragon7
    21-Sep-2013 12:31  
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I cld b wrong n just fr sharing. The share price 0.0224 is closed to the land parcels valuation. Consolidated shares 1:17 means price roughly at 0.38. However, existing shareholders hv something to gain which worth more than if deal didnt go thru. Currrent price 0.067 whether high or low depending how u assess the future prospects of the land developments. So the 0.067 is more of the future pe n cld b higher n of course lower. The new boss unlikely to sell compliance new shares lower than wat he invested ie at price 0.0224 or consolidated share price 0.38.

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 12:11) Posted:



Last closed@0.067c, was down -11.84%.  Consolidate 17 lots buy u oni one (1) lot, 170 lots buy u 10 lots and so on...

After announcement. Players bot cheap, cheaper,  n has  many hundred thousand  if not many  million of  shr will have better survival.

Rich will pump and get richer, Retails cannot afford to pump n not in their control  and will lose out.

Don hold - Mai Tham Sim. Many events not in ur or our  control. I was thinking of Ah Ben hint.

terencee      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 08:23) Posted:



How about you calculate this way ?

 

Share price must maintain above $0.20. But why they choose 17 shares ? And not 3 or 4 or 5 ? Logically 3-5 shares consolidate would be above that $0.20 already.

 

Worst situation scenario: $0.20/17=   $0.01176

Shares now at $0.07 ? Just be prepared for the worse. The worse may never come but the way Albedo management calculates, its kinda stupid. Cos after consolidation, you wont be losing just 1 bid if it drops. It would be 17 bids @ 5 pips after consolidation if it seriously drops. That means you lose more than 1 lot of Albedo for every pip down after consolidation.  


 

 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 12:18  
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Want to speculate...In other word. Don buy/sell beyond 6.9c, want to  go  for a quick  punch, then take ur chances n Q lower, how low?. It up to U, ur money - BEST DECIDE ONI by U. Hav a nice weekend.

teeth53      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 11:48) Posted:



Albedo opening, got a shock, took my chances n risk, got it, small speculated punch n  quicly Q to sell at 0.070c, was lucky to get out for small kopi $. All thk to BBs keep popping up at 0.070c. I may get caught if I don let go.

Bot on weakness n sell into strength - just to gauge fine tune my analysis. Must remind myself -  Mai tham sim.

novice_trader      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 22:58) Posted:

Sold 0.069... Don't want to keep this baby over the weekend... Could not sell at 0.073, the only can sell at 0.069... Zzzzz....


 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 12:11  
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Last closed@0.067c, was down -11.84%.  Consolidate 17 lots buy u oni one (1) lot, 170 lots buy u 10 lots and so on...

After announcement. Players bot cheap, cheaper,  n has  many hundred thousand  if not many  million of  shr will have better survival.

Rich will pump and get richer, Retails cannot afford to pump n not in their control  and will lose out.

Don hold - Mai Tham Sim. Many events not in ur or our  control. I was thinking of Ah Ben hint.

terencee      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 08:23) Posted:



How about you calculate this way ?

 

Share price must maintain above $0.20. But why they choose 17 shares ? And not 3 or 4 or 5 ? Logically 3-5 shares consolidate would be above that $0.20 already.

 

Worst situation scenario: $0.20/17=   $0.01176

Shares now at $0.07 ? Just be prepared for the worse. The worse may never come but the way Albedo management calculates, its kinda stupid. Cos after consolidation, you wont be losing just 1 bid if it drops. It would be 17 bids @ 5 pips after consolidation if it seriously drops. That means you lose more than 1 lot of Albedo for every pip down after consolidation.  

kelvinleow79      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 22:55) Posted:



for RTO to go through... there will be consolidation of shares

as per S& P.... consolidation 17:1

Based on $0.07 market price --> After consolidation, it will become $0.07 x 17 = $1.19/share

  $1.19/share... possible?

 


 
 
leeeta
    21-Sep-2013 11:54  
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Albedo was fantastic for me yesterday - in out in out few times from 6.7 to 7.
Next week got to watch out. Consolidation of shares is not a good thing in the short term and with Dow lausai, Albedo will be quite fun still to trade as volumes wont dwindle down so easily.
 
 
teeth53
    21-Sep-2013 11:48  
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Albedo opening, got a shock, took my chances n risk, got it, small speculated punch n  quicly Q to sell at 0.070c, was lucky to get out for small kopi $. All thk to BBs keep popping up at 0.070c. I may get caught if I don let go.

Bot on weakness n sell into strength - just to gauge fine tune my analysis. Must remind myself -  Mai tham sim.

novice_trader      ( Date: 20-Sep-2013 22:58) Posted:

Sold 0.069... Don't want to keep this baby over the weekend... Could not sell at 0.073, the only can sell at 0.069... Zzzzz....

 
 
Bigmama
    21-Sep-2013 11:41  
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I am neutral or a little bullish still ( maybe because I am sitting on gain) till I see the next price movement.

Bigmama      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 11:38) Posted:

Ok... Let say all these negative points are right...... With Dow down 185 point...... Surely albedo will drop by Monday right? Should drop right?

If albedo holds it price at 6.6 to 6.7 at closing (I am not say it will happen) then with all this negativeness and still does not drop .......THEN.... You should know what will happen next.

hongxianfeng      ( Date: 21-Sep-2013 11:24) Posted:

Why out of sudden everyone so depress? Cheer up boys and girls. I don't think he will kill all small share holder, if he killed, he is killing himself in long ran. No one will trust him


 
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