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dicksonh
    26-Aug-2013 09:28  
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wah never buy CNA but CNA always my curse...lost alot over it.

To bros who bought, huat! 
 
 
seanpent
    26-Aug-2013 09:25  
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sorry ... add one question ... any time frame in mind for it to make higher highs by crossing it's 31 achieved on 22-Jul-13 ?

seanpent      ( Date: 26-Aug-2013 09:21) Posted:

WST sifu ..... what's your view on CNA's fair value ?  Thanks.

WanSiTong      ( Date: 20-Aug-2013 09:44) Posted:

CNA Group (CNA SP) NOT RATED

Investment Highlights

A potential new growth driver? CNA has announced a JV agreement with China?s state-owned enterprise SPACE-ONE to tap into China?s growing smart connected city market. More than 120 smart-city related initiatives have been launched by China government agencies, with 37 prefecture-level cities, 50 counties and 3 townships marked as potential smart cities in the next 3-7 years. With its pilot project in the pipeline, a successful implementation may present huge growth potential for CNA. While we are upbeat on the possible growth prospects of CNA, we remain cautious on the implementation risks that come with the venture.

14.7%.Significant war chest. After its recent capital raising, the group will have a cash position of about S$15.2m with a net debt/asset ratio of

subscribed to 35m new shares of CNA each at S$0.179/share and S$0.19/share. After the recent new share placement, Mitsui and MEAP

will each hold 9.52% in CNA. Capitalising on its strategic investors? network, CNA has been open to multiple business opportunities.Two of Japan?s listed MNCs are strategic investors. In 2011, Mitsui & Co. Ltd (Mitsui) and Mitsubishi Electric Asia Pte Ltd (MEAP)

Comeback in 4Q13 with contributions from recurring income.

China has been a recent drag on earnings with delays in the construction of Dongying (DY) waste water treatment plant. With the

completion of DY in 3Q, losses from China operations are expected to be curbed and start contributing positively to CNA?s earnings in 4Q13.

Phase 1 of DY is expected to have a treatment capacity of 30,000mt/day, and CNA is expected to start receiving water tariffs from

DY in 4Q13.

projects like common use terminal equipment solution in Luang Prabang Airport in Laos, and installation of CNA?s local sequential

controller systems in India Metro railway project and 16 of Singapore?s Downtown line underground MRT stations. CNA?s announced Thailand

projects, which include the real estate development in Sriracha, Thailand with Tokyo-listed TamaHome, are expected to translate into

another S$80m of new orders once contracts are finalised in 3Q13.A good 2013. 2013 has been a good year for CNA, as it secured S$13.8m worth of projects in 1H13 across Asia, which includes key

Price Chart

Source: Bloomberg

Analyst

Loke Chunying

+65 6590 6637

cyloke@uobkayhian.com

Key Financials

Year to 31 Dec (S$m) 2010 2011 2012

Net Turnover 83.3 100.1 78.3

EBITDA 0.4 6.5 (1.1)

EBIT (0.8) 5.3 (2.1)

PATMI (22.7) 3.3 (3.2)

EPS (cts) (11.41) 1.28 (1.17)

P/E (x) - 18.4 -

P/B (x) 1.1 1.1 1.2

Dividend Yield (%) 6.4 - -

PATMI Margin (%) (27.3) 3.3 (4.0)

Net Gearing (%) - 50.4 56.4

Interest cover (x) (0.1) 2.4 (1.6)

ROE (%) (39.5) 6.3 (5.6)

Source: Bloomberg, UOB Kay Hian



 
 
seanpent
    26-Aug-2013 09:21  
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WST sifu ..... what's your view on CNA's fair value ?  Thanks.

WanSiTong      ( Date: 20-Aug-2013 09:44) Posted:

CNA Group (CNA SP) NOT RATED

Investment Highlights

A potential new growth driver? CNA has announced a JV agreement with China?s state-owned enterprise SPACE-ONE to tap into China?s growing smart connected city market. More than 120 smart-city related initiatives have been launched by China government agencies, with 37 prefecture-level cities, 50 counties and 3 townships marked as potential smart cities in the next 3-7 years. With its pilot project in the pipeline, a successful implementation may present huge growth potential for CNA. While we are upbeat on the possible growth prospects of CNA, we remain cautious on the implementation risks that come with the venture.

14.7%.Significant war chest. After its recent capital raising, the group will have a cash position of about S$15.2m with a net debt/asset ratio of

subscribed to 35m new shares of CNA each at S$0.179/share and S$0.19/share. After the recent new share placement, Mitsui and MEAP

will each hold 9.52% in CNA. Capitalising on its strategic investors? network, CNA has been open to multiple business opportunities.Two of Japan?s listed MNCs are strategic investors. In 2011, Mitsui & Co. Ltd (Mitsui) and Mitsubishi Electric Asia Pte Ltd (MEAP)

Comeback in 4Q13 with contributions from recurring income.

China has been a recent drag on earnings with delays in the construction of Dongying (DY) waste water treatment plant. With the

completion of DY in 3Q, losses from China operations are expected to be curbed and start contributing positively to CNA?s earnings in 4Q13.

Phase 1 of DY is expected to have a treatment capacity of 30,000mt/day, and CNA is expected to start receiving water tariffs from

DY in 4Q13.

projects like common use terminal equipment solution in Luang Prabang Airport in Laos, and installation of CNA?s local sequential

controller systems in India Metro railway project and 16 of Singapore?s Downtown line underground MRT stations. CNA?s announced Thailand

projects, which include the real estate development in Sriracha, Thailand with Tokyo-listed TamaHome, are expected to translate into

another S$80m of new orders once contracts are finalised in 3Q13.A good 2013. 2013 has been a good year for CNA, as it secured S$13.8m worth of projects in 1H13 across Asia, which includes key

Price Chart

Source: Bloomberg

Analyst

Loke Chunying

+65 6590 6637

cyloke@uobkayhian.com

Key Financials

Year to 31 Dec (S$m) 2010 2011 2012

Net Turnover 83.3 100.1 78.3

EBITDA 0.4 6.5 (1.1)

EBIT (0.8) 5.3 (2.1)

PATMI (22.7) 3.3 (3.2)

EPS (cts) (11.41) 1.28 (1.17)

P/E (x) - 18.4 -

P/B (x) 1.1 1.1 1.2

Dividend Yield (%) 6.4 - -

PATMI Margin (%) (27.3) 3.3 (4.0)

Net Gearing (%) - 50.4 56.4

Interest cover (x) (0.1) 2.4 (1.6)

ROE (%) (39.5) 6.3 (5.6)

Source: Bloomberg, UOB Kay Hian


 

 
iwonder
    25-Aug-2013 21:57  
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Hopefully it does  but looking at most placement it does

You see ISDN has risen from placement abt 0.24 and now already $1.265

Wolong      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 10:58) Posted:

CNA may cheong up after this placement news on monday,watch out!

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 08:23) Posted:

I thot that was usually before e announcemnt of placemnt. After placemnt drop liow lor.....


 
 
teeth53
    24-Aug-2013 12:50  
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The push might come to keep interest going, so is the pump n dump.. happi speculating n wish all a nice weekend.
 
 
teeth53
    24-Aug-2013 12:47  
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I believed most if not all the vested BBs oredi taken their money of the table as it had oredi hit up to 2.5 times it placement share. Even at last closing price is say 23c to 235c, it's100% profitable.

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 11:11) Posted:

But this is old news liow what......

Wolong      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 10:58) Posted:

CNA may cheong up after this placement news on monday,watch out!


 

 
didisiaosiao
    24-Aug-2013 11:33  
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Old n stale news? So it might....

梅 开 二 度 ?

Haahaa

teeth53      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 11:21) Posted:



http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/CNA_Placement_Announcement_60000000_New_Shares.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=248238

 

 

CNA Group Ltd. W
ishes to announce that the Company has entered into a placement agreement dated 18 July 2013 (" Placement Agreement" ) with the placees, whereby the Placees have agreed to subscribe for an aggregate of 60,000,000 new ordinary shares in the capital of the Company (" Placement Shares" ) at the issue price of S$0.1208 per Placement Share.

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 11:11) Posted:

But this is old news liow what.....


 
 
teeth53
    24-Aug-2013 11:21  
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http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/CNA_Placement_Announcement_60000000_New_Shares.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=248238

 

 

CNA Group Ltd. W
ishes to announce that the Company has entered into a placement agreement dated 18 July 2013 (" Placement Agreement" ) with the placees, whereby the Placees have agreed to subscribe for an aggregate of 60,000,000 new ordinary shares in the capital of the Company (" Placement Shares" ) at the issue price of S$0.1208 per Placement Share.

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 11:11) Posted:

But this is old news liow what......

Wolong      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 10:58) Posted:

CNA may cheong up after this placement news on monday,watch out!


 
 
teeth53
    24-Aug-2013 11:18  
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didisiaosiao
    24-Aug-2013 11:11  
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But this is old news liow what......

Wolong      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 10:58) Posted:

CNA may cheong up after this placement news on monday,watch out!

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 08:23) Posted:

I thot that was usually before e announcemnt of placemnt. After placemnt drop liow lor.....


 

 
Wolong
    24-Aug-2013 10:58  
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CNA may cheong up after this placement news on monday,watch out!

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 24-Aug-2013 08:23) Posted:

I thot that was usually before e announcemnt of placemnt. After placemnt drop liow lor......

medivh      ( Date: 23-Aug-2013 23:56) Posted:



u see every counter that place shares will  push up first thing in the morning

  C. Env for eg. today.haha


 
 
didisiaosiao
    24-Aug-2013 08:23  
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I thot that was usually before e announcemnt of placemnt. After placemnt drop liow lor......

medivh      ( Date: 23-Aug-2013 23:56) Posted:



u see every counter that place shares will  push up first thing in the morning

  C. Env for eg. today.haha

 
 
happyharvest
    24-Aug-2013 01:14  
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Why CNA keeps placing shares? lol
 
 
medivh
    23-Aug-2013 23:56  
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u see every counter that place shares will  push up first thing in the morning

  C. Env for eg. today.haha
 
 
didisiaosiao
    23-Aug-2013 21:28  
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Sure or not? ALready old news. Even so, this counter famous on sell on news hor......

iwonder      ( Date: 23-Aug-2013 21:00) Posted:

Huat......no wonder got accumulation

medivh      ( Date: 23-Aug-2013 20:52) Posted:

Placement share announced in SGX.. monday will huat (,")


 

 
iwonder
    23-Aug-2013 21:00  
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Huat......no wonder got accumulation

medivh      ( Date: 23-Aug-2013 20:52) Posted:

Placement share announced in SGX.. monday will huat (,")

 
 
medivh
    23-Aug-2013 20:52  
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Placement share announced in SGX.. monday will huat (,")
 
 
seanpent
    23-Aug-2013 15:00  
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CNA & Aussino together coming again
 
 
Integrity
    21-Aug-2013 09:04  
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Dun think it can run up anymore.
 
 
teeth53
    20-Aug-2013 16:31  
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BBs multiple order seen it today patten, for today oni  (players playing along for volume play), average up or down - no problem one.

didisiaosiao      ( Date: 20-Aug-2013 16:25) Posted:

Very weak bb. Bo power.

teeth53      ( Date: 20-Aug-2013 16:22) Posted:

Just now throw down to scare buyer to sell (mean to attract buyers to but oso mah), now stable at 24


 
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