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qpzm121
    12-Apr-2007 23:59  
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elf, thks for sharing the techniques. I have much to learn. Smiley let me study the advices from the experts in the forum.

cheers, qpzm
 
 
EastonBay
    12-Apr-2007 23:33  
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YongJiu: nice bunny and kitten photo (last one) and the sniper cat too! Also, earlier you mentioned something like make more in share market to finance you holiday in the US later in the year. Ha, I know you made a killing in NOL 2months back. Should be enuf right.

 

Elf: ran out of $$$, was really seriously considering UOBKH since Victorian started his commentary. Too bad. Can't have it all.

 
 
 
singaporegal
    12-Apr-2007 21:19  
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Haha... I like the sniper cat!
 

 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 19:45  
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Kitten & bunbun:

 
 
 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 19:34  
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Atomic Kitten:

 
 
 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 19:28  
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Cutie Kitten:

 
 

 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 19:24  
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Sniper kitten:



 
 
 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 18:37  
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aiyo you make kitten so happy la.... heheh sure it would be fun to have another missy kitten Smileyto play with kitten  Smiley


Perhaps some other day missy kitten can go shopping and do all the gals stuff with elfin & bunbun!!
 
 
 
elfinchilde
    12-Apr-2007 17:29  
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aieee....i'm not an auntieeeee......fyi kitten, i'm some years younger than you. haha.

no lah, it's not that i don't want you, but if you're my pet, i should take care of you isn't it? so if you're lonely, shouldn't i be a good missy and get you a companion?

keke.
 
 
YongJiu
    12-Apr-2007 17:25  
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Aiyo auntie elfin..... sobsob you dun want kitten already? try to sell kitten away aft you get sick of him?
Bunnie you have any solution??? auntie elfin try to sell me away Smiley

 
 

 
elfinchilde
    12-Apr-2007 17:01  
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wheeee......UOBKH is at 1.6 and KE is at 1.7!!! did anyone follow my call re 9th april regarding these two babies?? lemme know so i can cue when i exit as fyi for your own decision...

 

heeheee.......Smiley
 
 
elfinchilde
    12-Apr-2007 15:11  
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oop sorry kitten, missed your post.

what i meant was generally: that guys seem to be very sentimental on their stocks; they'll cling to the losers and keep hoping and hoping that it'll go up, despite evidence to the contrary they'll believe that single little itty blip that says it'll go up. And they keep going back to 'favourite counters'. whereas for relationships, like what you said(!), looking for high return, high potential; and the moment they think the other person is not, they'll 'cut loss' straightaway, no hesitation. (in the first place, why are you looking to take, and not to give?)

like, kaoz. sigh. men. sigh.

 

hehe, it's ok kitten, i'm sure we can find you a partner.....let's put you up for advertisement. keke.

 *ring bell*

lelong, lelong, one lonely little elfin kitten for sale....extremely amenable, friendly, affable, able to sweet-talk. Likely quite a high earner. Young, fresh, with a good stock portfolio. Lelong, lelong....any takers????

 

fine print: kitten comes alone without elfin tips for stocks. The advertiser is not liable for any losses or defects in above sale item.

 

keke. haha. bwah haha. Smiley  

don't kill me hor. bwah ha. Smiley
 
 
tanglinboy
    12-Apr-2007 15:11  
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Hi elf.... thanks! I learnt alot from your last 2 posts.
 
 
baseerahmed
    12-Apr-2007 12:56  
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elfinchilde : Thank you very much. Simply Awesome !
 
 
elfinchilde
    12-Apr-2007 12:35  
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k baseerahmed, i'm replying to your gems post here...'cos think quite a few ppl might have lost $$ on gems, so didn't want to post your 'academic lesson' there as it might come across as me showing off after the event has happened... gotta be sensitive to those ard too yea... pls note tho that i'm not vested in gems, nor did i track the counter at all, til my kitten mentioned it just yest.

 

anyhow, re your qns from that thread:

1) I use the software that SJ provides. and the actual buy up sell down from poems. that's all. All free. heehee.

 

2) MAcross (henceforth MAx): Depends. I vary the days based on the actual price action: correlate the peaks and troughs as best as you can. Generally i like 3 and 10/14. For pure TA trades, sometimes i'll even use 2 and 8/9. It all depends on the counter. try to have more than 5 days between the two tho, or  you'll just generate crazy buy/sell signals all the time.

 

3) A/D: Don't just look at the line, that can be misleading. Look at the numbers. Yea, A/D hovered between -150mil to -155mil, but the latter drop occurred concurrent with large vols, and a serious chaikin drop. (chaikin precedes AD). You need to look at more than one indicators. Also note that A/D is actually rather insensitive to gems: large price increase from 31st jan to 13th mar was shown in A/D by only an increase from -170 to abt -150mil.

 

So keke, if you wanna be anal and track precisely (pure chart ppl are gonna kill me here, since it's likely not what you're supposed to do), but it means a drop of abt 1mil in A/D is equivalent to a drop of abt 0.03c in actual value. So yest shows an A/D drop of 5 mil. this shd correlated with a 15c drop in share price. Which if you look at close from 10th apr to 11 apr (1.64 to 1.51), is abt right. haha. note pls don't keep doing this for all counters tho. It's a bit too much close tracking; and likely to be inaccurate after a while. don't get so caught up in numbers that you neglect the macrotrend.

 

4) yah. Chaikin or C/O is chaikin oscillator. sorry, too much trouble to havta spell it all the time.

 

5) final pt: indicators are only as good as their last test of accuracy. Stocks can lose sensitivity to indicators; so always check that you're using the right indicator for the right counter. if all else fails, nothing beats pure price/vol charting. That's the basis of all indicators, really.

 

6) yah. the bollies broke downward. so if you dep on pure techs, downtrend likely. but this is where psychology and price/vol comes into play. Psychology: BBs are playing this counter. (look at singtel as another play counter). So despite all the techs, my guess at final for short term is actually volatile range-bound. perfect for day/shortterm traders. Your range is abt 1.45 to 1.65.
 

 
elfinchilde
    12-Apr-2007 12:10  
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 qzpm, re your qn on EDMI thread:

yep concur with victorian and ipunter. don't just look at RSI/Williams overbought/oversold to make a decision. Often, just because a stock is overbought doesn't mean it'll go down. In fact it might even go up further. It simply means that more and more ppl are buying it. (look at all your props like AG and HB etc).

 

Gotta remember too that indicators are right only if the initial parameters for their functioning are fulfilled.

 

So your case in pt: Aussino is a low vol stock. Some days it's even zero vol. what this means is that your traditional indicators like A/D, C/O, RSI and Williams are going to be inaccurate, since even one buy up a day will turn the williams into zero (ie, overbought). When realistically it is not so.

 

if you're using indicators, then the general advice is to specialise in one or a few. ie, know those few well. What you gotta do then is to pick stocks that respond to those indicators. Because not all stocks respond to all indicators. Some are notoriously insensitive. So always do a back test. if you can't run that, then simple comparison using SJ charts: 1st chart take bar chart, 2nd and 3rd the indicators of your choice: do they correlate?

 

Elf does technicals by a different way tho. I go by stock first, then tech method. So if a stock responds to fibo and candlesticks, i'll use that. If a stock responds to A/D, C/O, i'll use that. Essentially, i let the stock decide what it responds to, and i just follow it. Note i'm not vested in aussino, nor am i interested in it--the counter's a flatliner!--But arbitrarily, for aussino, if you want to track it, use momentum, price and vol oscillator, candlesticks. Bollies and envelope are good to see general direction. So reading for aussino: likely to be flatliner for some time.

 

General rule of thumb for me for pennies is to use fibo and bollies. The pennies seem to like these two for whatever reason. Note, pennies are extremely susceptible to manipulation tho, so be very careful with them. Buy only pennies with strong fundamentals. O/w, you're liable to get caught in BBs play.  

 

yep baseerahmed, hang on.....elf on MC today. gonna see doc later. 'working' on SJ now. haha.
 
 
iPunter
    12-Apr-2007 09:29  
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BaseerAhmed...

Good... :)


That's much, much better than many who spending time lounging...

There's so much to fill one's mind mind that there's so little time!...
 
 
EastonBay
    11-Apr-2007 23:31  
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singaporegal: I like the comment about 'forum polution' very much. Punchy!! It's short and sharp Smiley

Wonderful!Smiley
 
 
baseerahmed
    11-Apr-2007 22:04  
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elfinchilde : hope u will reply on gems TV

iPunter : going to watch planet earth on arts central  : - )
 
 
tanglinboy
    11-Apr-2007 21:58  
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hey j3r0m3,




Are you sure the dead body story in First World hotel is true???!! Are you pulling our leg??!!  Smiley
 
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