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novice_trader
    28-Sep-2013 10:36  
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Bro, I also promise myself no to jeep into this counter unless bro Stockcham or bro Joseeng is inside... Boss ace333, inside also great but must see he long or short.... Hahahaha. Previous experience in innopac lost a few k, thinking back I'm silly, drop never cut, Bounce up nv run.... CNA also I'm not touching.... Other than this two counter think this month I'm improving.... Huat ah!!!

JarolLo      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 09:08) Posted:

Bro I'm not a good player lah. In front of you and other big bro and sis I'm just a kindergarten boy, loss more than win.
Taking abt Innopac, I observed the past 1 week, noticed that support at 138/139 is very strong. And the one you and bro SC explained also similar apply to this counter now. Look like may rebounce from here. But I've no fate with this counter, always kana cut one. So please DYODD first. I've set a discipline not to go into this counter anymore. Lastly please don't trust my analysis, I'm not chun one.

bulletproofheart      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 01:01) Posted:

bro I think u're a good player leh. Share more too. abt innopac, I deleted from my watchlist alr. Got time I go see see. I went out to drink, now v 'senh'. Not good at holding liquor unlike our bro ace. Haha. Huat ah!


 
 
myjourney
    28-Sep-2013 10:30  
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Bro SC, thanks for your details and knowledge sharing. Thumbs ups !!!! Appreciate your insight which will help others esp newbies. Lets huat together.
Huat Ah!!!!
 
 
novice_trader
    28-Sep-2013 10:17  
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Good morning bros and sis and sifus, thanks bro Stockcham for sharing ur knowledge and advice... Huat ah!!! Today no market to play, go buy 4D lol!!!
 

 
Siwomp
    28-Sep-2013 09:29  
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Thank You Bro Stockcham for sharing your valuable knowledge.  Really appreciate it.
 
 
JarolLo
    28-Sep-2013 09:08  
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Bro I'm not a good player lah. In front of you and other big bro and sis I'm just a kindergarten boy, loss more than win.
Taking abt Innopac, I observed the past 1 week, noticed that support at 138/139 is very strong. And the one you and bro SC explained also similar apply to this counter now. Look like may rebounce from here. But I've no fate with this counter, always kana cut one. So please DYODD first. I've set a discipline not to go into this counter anymore. Lastly please don't trust my analysis, I'm not chun one.

bulletproofheart      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 01:01) Posted:

bro I think u're a good player leh. Share more too. abt innopac, I deleted from my watchlist alr. Got time I go see see. I went out to drink, now v 'senh'. Not good at holding liquor unlike our bro ace. Haha. Huat ah!!

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 22:23) Posted:

Thank you our big brother for your selfless sharing of your previous experience. Really very insight. Thank you very much. I'm keeping all these as my lecture notes and keep referring from time to time, make sure is deep into mind.

Once again, thank you very much.
Sorry don't know my simple questionable you and Bro Bulletproofheart so busy. Really appreciate both of you for your hard work.

Enjoy your weekend


 
 
winterQQ
    28-Sep-2013 08:48  
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Good morning everyone!
Thx bro sc, nice morning lesson for me.
 

 
daniel1177
    28-Sep-2013 08:24  
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Thanks bro sc for sharing... reading your 心 德 about the trading pattern really helps alot. .. have a nice weekend.. huat on monday.....

Luna69      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 23:35) Posted:

Bro Sc, these two days only prelude to the correction ? Full blown impact not started yet ? How long will such correction last ? Tks for your theory sharing earlier... Added to my book too...

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 23:28) Posted:

Bro, hard to say on CNA. Tested 197 support a number of times but still holding. There is once it open at 196 and moves up. So the support can be shifted to 196. Many said it will drop but I believe it will hold and move above 20 unless there is a correction. Good Luck and Huat ah


 
 
tanglinboy
    28-Sep-2013 07:48  
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How about SATS?
 
 
dawx14
    28-Sep-2013 01:36  
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Bro thanks for advise. Sorry can I also ask ask about china GAO xian? It seems like it dropped again because yesterday it tested the support at 89. Also what is metech like? It went heaven and today towards hell..

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 23:37) Posted:

Bro, Magnus close swee. Should be able to move some more. Amplefield also not bad leh. Too bad i doesn't close above 81. On the chart, it looks going higher and higher. If it can close above 81 in the days to come, then I can say that it is very good and there should be more upside to test 90. I will jeep if it can close above 81. Good Luck!

dawx14      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 17:23) Posted:

Bro you think Amplefield and magnus got close swee bo


 
 
sugeee
    28-Sep-2013 01:05  
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Young man still awake ? old lady also still awake. I think monday would be a better day. Enjoy your weekend.

bulletproofheart      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 01:01) Posted:

bro I think u're a good player leh. Share more too. abt innopac, I deleted from my watchlist alr. Got time I go see see. I went out to drink, now v 'senh'. Not good at holding liquor unlike our bro ace. Haha. Huat ah!!

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 22:23) Posted:

Thank you our big brother for your selfless sharing of your previous experience. Really very insight. Thank you very much. I'm keeping all these as my lecture notes and keep referring from time to time, make sure is deep into mind.

Once again, thank you very much.
Sorry don't know my simple questionable you and Bro Bulletproofheart so busy. Really appreciate both of you for your hard work.

Enjoy your weekend


 

 
Gold916
    28-Sep-2013 01:04  
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Lol
Bo Jio me!!!

bulletproofheart      ( Date: 28-Sep-2013 01:01) Posted:

bro I think u're a good player leh. Share more too. abt innopac, I deleted from my watchlist alr. Got time I go see see. I went out to drink, now v 'senh'. Not good at holding liquor unlike our bro ace. Haha. Huat ah!!

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 22:23) Posted:

Thank you our big brother for your selfless sharing of your previous experience. Really very insight. Thank you very much. I'm keeping all these as my lecture notes and keep referring from time to time, make sure is deep into mind.

Once again, thank you very much.
Sorry don't know my simple questionable you and Bro Bulletproofheart so busy. Really appreciate both of you for your hard work.

Enjoy your weekend


 
 
bulletproofheart
    28-Sep-2013 01:01  
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bro I think u're a good player leh. Share more too. abt innopac, I deleted from my watchlist alr. Got time I go see see. I went out to drink, now v 'senh'. Not good at holding liquor unlike our bro ace. Haha. Huat ah!!

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 22:23) Posted:

Thank you our big brother for your selfless sharing of your previous experience. Really very insight. Thank you very much. I'm keeping all these as my lecture notes and keep referring from time to time, make sure is deep into mind.

Once again, thank you very much.
Sorry don't know my simple questionable you and Bro Bulletproofheart so busy. Really appreciate both of you for your hard work.

Enjoy your weekend.

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 21:03) Posted:



Thanks bro Bulletproofheart. You save me a lot of time. I will a bit more to make it clearer.

To add on what I discussed previously.

 



 

Put aside the real queue. We shall discussed the fake queue. Basically BBs place the big sell queue volume there for a few reasons. But before that, you must understand that BBs works in a group of a few peoples. They buy and sell their own lots.

 



 

1)          When retailers see big sell queue, buyers? natural reaction is scared to buy and sellers? reaction is ?Queue behind hard to get it? so sell straight at buy price. So sellers throw at buy price and BBs collect.

 

2)          Before a counter chiong, BBs usually have already accumulate enough lots. So when they pushed up the price, they cannot keep buying from retailers from each pip as they push up. So the only way is to place big queue there so less retailers will queue behind. As they push up each pip, they buy minimum lots from retailers.

 

3)          BBs buy their own lots to create volume. Counters with big volume tends to attract retailers.

 

4)          To create a chiong scenario. E.g. sell queue have 3000 lots. Then BBs eat up 2000 lots at one go. When retailers see that, they will rush in to buy.

 

5)          To distribute their holdings. How?. E.g. They put 5000 lots at sell queue. Eat up 1000 lots and then continue to eat smaller lots in a fast speed. Retailers see that will chiong in to buy. Once sell queue nearly finish, they top up some more lots at sell queue. Sometimes BBs will put super big sell queue. Let?s say the usual trading volume is 1000 lots. Big sell queue is 4000 lots. Super big sell queue may be 10000 lots. By placing super big sell queue, they can clear more lots. Recently we saw WE with super big sell queue of more than 50000 lots. Pls note that the chance to clear super big sell queue is very low.

 



 

Pls note that if there is big sell queue up many pips at MD, it doesn?t necessary mean it will run. Everyday you will see big sell queue at quite a number of pips at many counters but it don?t run. It just shows some signal that BBs still inside and there is a possibility of a run. No big sell queue usually means no run. Some times you see big sell queue of e.g. about 2000 lots at many pips up. Everyday you see the same thing but no run. Then you must take note whether the big sell queue have increase to maybe 4000 lots boh. If have increase, this is good. If decrease, then no good. Also have to take note whether the big sell queue have move down or move further up. Move down is good. Move up is no good. E.g. Today the price is 180-181 and the big sell queue at MD starts at 182, 183, 184 and so on. Then tomorrow the big sell queue starts at 181, 182, 183. This is good. If tomorrow the big sell queue starts from 184, 185, 186, then this is no good. It is important to take note that if a counter runs up and then comes down again, you will see big sell queue all the way up at MD. These big queue cannot be taken into account after the price drop down.

 



 

So now you know why I?m happy to see big sell queue. I will be worried if I continue to see big buy queue because BBs likely will withdraw their buy queue and the price will drop. But is will come to a point where the big buy queue is real.

 



 

Some peoples asked why BBs buy high sell low?. The reason they said that because big volume were traded at higher price where big lots were done. BBs won?t buy high sell low eh. They pushed up many pips up in a faster pace. Then they start to distribute their holding by buying and selling their own lots at the higher price. Of course the volume is high at higher price lah. That?s why you see when a counter moves up, it moves up fast and then come to a point where it ding dong there for a longer time.

 



 

There is one type of big sell queue trading which you all have to avoid. That is BBs place big sell queue. Then they start to eat up the sell queue lots without the buy queue building up. E.g. Buy queue 500 lots and Sell queue 3000 lots. Then BBs start to eat 1000 lots at sell queue, then eat another 1000 lots at sell queue. Sometimes BBs will eat up their own 3000 lots. Then on th next higher price, they do the same until retailers comes in. This happen recently to PS Group if anyone saw the trading that day. It happened on Matex, Sunlight and St James previously. Jiutian C BBs also like to play this pattern. When BBs trade this way, they usually will only push up a few pips(maybe 1-3 pips I didn?t really count). Then it will start to drop and can drop a lot at times. If you see this, you can take this opportunity to short it. High chance make very good money.

 



 

In trading, it is important to know how to see whether a counter have buying power. Let?s say you see peoples continue to throw at buy price. When it is nearly finish or finish, the buyers will comes in again and this continue. Most important is that you see that the sell queue is big. This is accumulation. Remember that day I said accumulation is taking place at Mirach at the price of 465?.   It ran up to 50 the next day. For this case, BBs is more pro. They put big queue at 47 and a few hundreds lots at 465. Then they keep throwing at 465. 465 finish put some more and they continue to throw. This continue for quite a while. When retailers see this, they also follow to throw because they think so many sellers ah. BBs collect.

 



 

Not only that you need to know power buying, you will also need to know how to see whether BBs buying or retailers buying. I mean real buying and not buying own lots. This one is hard to explain and also not easy to see especially if the buy/sell queue volume is always big. I can only use CCM as an example. E.g. Now the sell queue is   50 lots at 195. then someone queue sell 100 lots at 195 so total 150 lots. Then another one queue 100 lots at 195 which make it 250 lots. After a while, someone bought 300 lots at 195. High chance this is BBs   buying because when the buy/sell queue is so low about 100 lots each queue, not many retailers will buy 300 lots at one go.

 



 

Anyway, you will have to know the characteristic of a counter and its daily normal traded volume. Once you know this, you will see the abnormality in the volume which mean there may be some action soon.

 



 

I think I have write enough. Tired liao. Need to go home now. Hope you all understand what I say.

 



 

Big huat to all of you on Monday. Have a nice weekend.

 



 

Huat ah!

 




 
 
bulletproofheart
    28-Sep-2013 00:56  
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No need to thank me. I'm just like any of the newbies here, learning from better players so I can make better trades. I just share what I know n what I saved in my word file. Hope it helps anyone who is keen to learn. I lost a lot before I came to SJ, happy n proud to say I'm slowly recovering my losses. As long as u take in the experts' advices, u shld start to lose lesser n start to win bit by bit. I hope everyone have a great weekend n nx Mon, don't fight the BBs, join to BBs to earn some kopi money. Huat ah!!!

I'm still holding Otto. 69 support well, hope to push on. Huat ah!!!
 
 
OngLaiHuat
    28-Sep-2013 00:23  
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Wow bro SC, this is really the true world of penny trading. Really appreciate your insight. Every detail you wrote is really what I see. I can't contribute much but I saw something that happen to ipco which really dictates the way you wrote. When I saw the bbs eating up a massive sell queue for eg, 0.043 -0.044 , buy queue is originally 20000 sell queue 40000. They were eating the sell queue by 5k , 2k, 1k, 4k, etc. then I saw the storm build up. The buy queue from 20000 become 35000. Then I know si Liao, bb A munching and getting ready to dump one short to BB B at buy queue. True enough split second 25k buy queue vanish and they dump 10k at 1 pip down. Cos as retailers you keep watching the sell Lana eaten then you panick want buy scared no more left. But the real thing to watch is the buy queue storm that is building up. Dono my theory true or not lol but seen quite a few scenario on micro pennies. Huat ah!
 
 
markus88
    28-Sep-2013 00:00  
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Thanks bro Sc and bro bullet for sharing. Only occasionally saw postings and invested a few... But most of them always wrong timing. After learning from the postings will start from basic and monitor again before buying. Anyway still benefited
Frm a few calls by bro sc... Thanks everyone again!
 

 
Stockcham
    27-Sep-2013 23:53  
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Thanls bro for sharing. There is definitely more potential upside for EMS. If there is no correction, this counter should break 95 resistance and test 10 again by the coming week.

Sharemythots      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 16:18) Posted:

I think EMS should hold well, and I think the last 15 minutes might not be " lau sai" as usual, feel it will be held up today to distinguish itself from the rest , which is in pool of red .. And with a higher base then can zoom higher next week.. Feel that the owners want it to be a > 0.10 share, if not will not have the multi millions deal announced. That's my opinion:)

 
 
Stockcham
    27-Sep-2013 23:45  
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Sis, follow mean good or bad?....lol. When I make a call, some bros and sis will follow and buy. Therefore there will be some movement if the traded volume is low. I noticed at times when the BBs is quiet waiting to push(maybe want to collect more)  but when I make a call, bros and sis chiong in to buy and it trigger the BBs to push earlier. Also there are  times where the BBs will push a little up and then press it down again. It then run in 1-2 days times. That's what I notice. we disturb their peace ah...lol.

halleluyah      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 16:43) Posted:

Bro Stockcham, i notice many times aredi when u call on certain counters, BBs sure will flw also. 

 
 
Stockcham
    27-Sep-2013 23:37  
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Bro, Magnus close swee. Should be able to move some more. Amplefield also not bad leh. Too bad i doesn't close above 81. On the chart, it looks going higher and higher. If it can close above 81 in the days to come, then I can say that it is very good and there should be more upside to test 90. I will jeep if it can close above 81. Good Luck!

dawx14      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 17:23) Posted:

Bro you think Amplefield and magnus got close swee bo?

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 17:11) Posted:

Can I repeat?...EMS close sibei swee! Huat ah!

Will share on the big queue at night. Now work first!


 
 
Luna69
    27-Sep-2013 23:35  
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Bro Sc, these two days only prelude to the correction ? Full blown impact not started yet ? How long will such correction last ? Tks for your theory sharing earlier... Added to my book too...

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 23:28) Posted:

Bro, hard to say on CNA. Tested 197 support a number of times but still holding. There is once it open at 196 and moves up. So the support can be shifted to 196. Many said it will drop but I believe it will hold and move above 20 unless there is a correction. Good Luck and Huat ah!

daniel1177      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 18:35) Posted:

Hi bro sc... I'm new here.. can u advise me on cna ? Is it a sell down on this counter


 
 
Stockcham
    27-Sep-2013 23:28  
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Bro, hard to say on CNA. Tested 197 support a number of times but still holding. There is once it open at 196 and moves up. So the support can be shifted to 196. Many said it will drop but I believe it will hold and move above 20 unless there is a correction. Good Luck and Huat ah!

daniel1177      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 18:35) Posted:

Hi bro sc... I'm new here.. can u advise me on cna ? Is it a sell down on this counter ?

Stockcham      ( Date: 27-Sep-2013 17:11) Posted:

Can I repeat?...EMS close sibei swee! Huat ah!

Will share on the big queue at night. Now work first!


 
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