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nickyng
    08-Feb-2007 14:20  
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ok...updates..cover my short tis morning at $4.38 :P abit of $$ for CNY :) gd luck guys !!!



Giant, i sugg u but PUT warrants lah...
 
 
giantlow
    08-Feb-2007 14:10  
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i will not make anymore postings in the SPC thread cos apparrent, all i say amounts to nothing.

= (
 
 
crazy_money
    08-Feb-2007 13:58  
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if it is warrant, better cut loss. for share, still can hold forever
 

 
bunbun
    08-Feb-2007 13:56  
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Giant, maybe can share with you on one of my personal losses. i bought a counter and when it went spiralling dowawards, 'coz i heartpain, and didn't know how to cut loss, in the end made 5-figure losses. this woke me up big time...



i've learnt venting fustration won't recover the losses one made. learning the mistake does. cheer up, and listen to victorian, cut your loss. i know it's easier said than done. i was afterall, once bitten.
 
 
elfinchilde
    08-Feb-2007 13:23  
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hey giantlow, i know it's difficult, but do pull back a little and look at it rationally yea? Emotions help nothing in the market. Cool down... Thoughts are with you. :)

decide what you want to do, and whatever it is, hold no regrets. As in life itself. Hang in there! :) don't suppose a rose would cheer you up? here...

@)---)----

i know elves are silly and flighty and hyper, and this won't help you much, but hey. :)
 
 
giantlow
    08-Feb-2007 12:27  
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SPC dropped when oil prices down, and have stagnated when price rise. slight correction in oil prices, this counter drop like shit.


Sell, sell, sell. The counter sucks man!!!
 

 
giantlow
    08-Feb-2007 12:19  
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congrats man. SPC slided like shit falling.


SPC is sure 1 hell of a shit stock man!
 
 
nickyng
    08-Feb-2007 09:02  
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ok long story cut short! any1 following me to short 3x$4.44 today liao ...hee..wish me luck!!
 
 
chinkiasu
    08-Feb-2007 02:14  
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I think the latest news highlighted below in red on demand for distillates (read as more business for SPC too) is worth noting

from FORBES.com , AFX news 11.00pmET

SINGAPORE (XFN-ASIA) - Oil prices climbed in Asian trading hours as freezing weather continued to grip the northeastern US, an important market for heating fuel, dealers said.

At 11.10 here (0310 GMT), the New York Mercantile Exchange's main oil futures contract, light sweet crude for delivery in March, was up 0.48 usd at 59.36 usd a barrel from 58.88 usd in late trading in the US overnight. Brent North Sea crude for March was up 0.44 usd at 58.86 usd.

Tony Nunan, the Tokyo-based manager of energy risk for Mitsubishi Corp (other-otc: MSBHY.PK - news - people ), said cold winter weather in the northeastern US was the main cause of the rise in oil prices.

'The cold weather looks like it is going to, at least, last until next week. We went from mild weather to unusually cold weather from mid-January onwards and this is increasing demand for heating oil,' he said.

US demand for heating fuel is expected to be about 20 pct above normal this week after the US National Weather Service forecast that temperatures in the northeastern US will be below the average there for this time of the year for the next 6-10 days.

The US is the world's biggest user of energy.

Nunan said the price rise was also driven by investors that felt oil prices had bottomed-out after hitting lows of under 50 usd last month.

The market expects the US Department of Energy'S (DoE's) weekly report on US oil stocks, due to be released later today, to show a fall in distillates inventories, which include heating oil, due to strong demand.

'There's a feeling there is going to be a big draw in distillates,' said Nunan. 'The average expectation is about 3 mln barrels.'

 
 
chinkiasu
    08-Feb-2007 01:52  
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hi Victorian, re your comments about the SPR, here is a quote/extract from CNN Jan 24 after the announcement on subject..

SINGAPORE (Reuters) --xxxx xx

The contract rallied $2.46 to $55.04 on Tuesday, the biggest daily gain since Nov. 20, after U.S. Energy Secretary Sam Bodman unveiled a new push in the spring to add 11 million barrels to the country's Strategic Petroleum Reserves (SPR) at a rate of around 100,000 barrels per day (bpd).

"The SPR news is very supportive of the price. And if you want to consider the Chinese strategic reserves, they have also been filling their reservoirs, all of that is very very supportive," said Andrew Harrington, a resource analyst at ANZ bank.

China has been accelerating the build-up of its strategic storage tanks, importing about 12.4 million barrels of crude in December, more than 50 percent above its November intake, industry sources said this month, indicating that at least 70 percent of those tanks had been filled.

U.S. President George W. Bush also called for a doubling of the reserve's capacity to 1.5 billion barrels by 2027 in his annual State of the Union address to Congress.

The build-up is aimed at insulating the country from global price shocks by raising strategic reserves to about 97 days of imports. Some analysts view the build-up as a steadying influence on prices.

Short-term supportive



"The SPR situation is only short-term supportive. That oil is being stored and does not disappear. In the longer term, it will probably help prices to stabilize at a lower level," Harrington said.



however, I think I will let the matter rest...  all I am saying is the SPR (and those of China, India etc) do add to current demand for distillates which means addition market for current refineries like SPC...  of cos new refineries is being built, but it would take two to three years for them to operation...  meanwhile I am saying at least the EPS of SPC should be as good their latest result, if not better..
 

 
KiLrOy
    08-Feb-2007 00:16  
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Yaba yaba yaba .....

[15:33 US ECON: Crude Inventories Drop 0.4Mln Brls; Distillate Down] Boston,   
February 7. The EIA reported a drop in crude oil inventories by 0.4 mln barrels for the week ending February 3. This is the first decrease seen in three weeks. OPEC had decided in December to cut production by 600,000 barrels a day starting February 1. Crude oil imports dropped to their lowest in four weeks and petroleum imports decreased to the lowest in five weeks. Following the news, oil prices edged up 57 cents to $59.45 per barrel.                                  
Distillate inventories fell for the second straight week down by 3.7 mln barrels. The drop is the biggest since October but supply is just 0.2% higher from a year ago. Gasoline inventories rose for the eight week, up by 2.6 mln barrels.
 
 
KiLrOy
    08-Feb-2007 00:07  
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[15:31 US TECHS: Commodities Outlook; Gold and Oil] Boston, February 7.         
Developments are few for [gold] today, sporting modest gains.  As noted over the
past week, gold"s ability to stay outside (above) its symmetrical triangle      
formation (most easily visible on continuous futures charts back to mid-July)   
keeps the view bullish on this market.  Slowing upside momentum along with      
divergences compared to readings from the end of 2006 are one negative          
development that has not resolved itself.  Trend Intensity, IFR's proprietary   
trend indicator, is stuck  at 16, likely to hold there for a fifth day.  This is
turning into a weak bull trend signal but until neutralized, bulls keep their   
edge.  Intraday supports are close by at $656-57.  Holding above $650 Apr keeps 
the market on a more bullish note.  Eventual targets are near $677.             
    In Mar [oil], the market has tapped against 50-day moving averages          
(resistance at $59.77 Mar) the past several days and has come close today.  With
reference lows and measured retracements nearly identical to either side of     
$60.50, expectations are strong that the upside correction will slow and reverse
course.  Whether the 50-day average or retracement levels mark the absolute top,
caution is urged about overstaying on the long side for trading accounts.       
Intraday supports are not far below at $59.00-25 Mar.  Daily momentum is almost 
neutral for the first time in 2007, another reason for caution.                 
Joel.Marver@thomson.com /cm
 
 
giantlow
    07-Feb-2007 23:39  
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volumes done at 4.48 was terribly low. no uptrend yet.



as usual great analysis by victorian.
 
 
singaporegal
    07-Feb-2007 22:28  
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Trend now seems more positive than negative. Wait a couple more days to confirm.
 
 
chinkiasu
    07-Feb-2007 21:03  
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re the US strategic petroleum reserve, yes there is political reason for it and I agree with Shplayer's point that the aim is to buffer fluctuations.  But I think also US embarked on this path because Hurricane Katrina wipe quite a lot of refineries out of action and their gasoline price when through the roof causing a great outcry...

however my point is that when they double the reserve to 1.5billion bd, they would need to buy more petroleum (which is a refinery product) above their normal demand over the next few years.. Let me also quote a oil analyst on this subject ""By making an increase in oil reserves a foreign policy strategy, it is more likely than not that it will also push other aspiring superpowers (China and India) to increase their plans for strategic reserves, creating additional long term demand,"
 

 
KiLrOy
    07-Feb-2007 20:47  
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Price action remains choppy.  Trend is aimless or should I say clueless. Nothing to look forward to except the far away dividend in May.
 
 
chinkiasu
    07-Feb-2007 20:45  
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todays trade..  some giants selling down, but also big guys & rich guys buying up... i think there is going a uptrend again soon.....






 
 
giantlow
    07-Feb-2007 17:14  
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fail to break 4.48. closed at 4.46.

sigh.... still ranging.
 
 
giantlow
    07-Feb-2007 16:48  
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now back at 4.46. the volumes done at 4.48 is not strong enough to confirm the uptrend. even if there at huge last min volumes at 4.48, gotta wait and see.


i sense that interest is brewing.
 
 
geojam
    07-Feb-2007 16:35  
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r u shorting tomolo?
 
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