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Trade888
    27-May-2013 19:26  
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One thing to note is that historically the warrants from this counter is quite poor in-terms of liquidity and the the price spreads are generally big. So if you are holding big quantities, it will be easier to convert and sell instead of trading the warrants. Having said that, the trading activities for warrants is expecting to go up within few weeks of listing and the activities will tapered off there after. Just my observation.
 
 
kagekage
    27-May-2013 18:04  
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Thks clickshop for your advice.

clickshop1628      ( Date: 27-May-2013 17:57) Posted:



Why you want to convert the warrants? Just hold it and sell it when the mother shares cheong. But remember it has an expiry date and a time value. Most warrants are not converted until near expiry date because the sub shareholders convert them to preserve their shareholding %.

Warrants are for trading, why make things so difficult? They follow the mother shares movement. They are like long dated call options.


kagekage      ( Date: 27-May-2013 17:41) Posted:



Pls advise, 

This is the first time I am receiving warrants, I have 100 lots now.

let's say if I convert my 50 lots of warrant to mother shares, the new mother shares will be 100 + 50 = 150 lots.


In that case what is the difference between holding warrants and mother shares other than warrant having a time limit.

Best Regards


 
 
clickshop1628
    27-May-2013 17:57  
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Why you want to convert the warrants? Just hold it and sell it when the mother shares cheong. But remember it has an expiry date and a time value. Most warrants are not converted until near expiry date because the sub shareholders convert them to preserve their shareholding %.

Warrants are for trading, why make things so difficult? They follow the mother shares movement. They are like long dated call options.


kagekage      ( Date: 27-May-2013 17:41) Posted:



Pls advise, 

This is the first time I am receiving warrants, I have 100 lots now.

let's say if I convert my 50 lots of warrant to mother shares, the new mother shares will be 100 + 50 = 150 lots.


In that case what is the difference between holding warrants and mother shares other than warrant having a time limit.

Best Regards

 

 
kagekage
    27-May-2013 17:41  
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Pls advise, 

This is the first time I am receiving warrants, I have 100 lots now.

let's say if I convert my 50 lots of warrant to mother shares, the new mother shares will be 100 + 50 = 150 lots.


In that case what is the difference between holding warrants and mother shares other than warrant having a time limit.

Best Regards
 
 
JarolLo
    27-May-2013 17:32  
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Thank you bro.

Trade888      ( Date: 27-May-2013 17:10) Posted:

You will be given 15 lots of bonus warrants.  You can exercise the warrants @ 2 cents ea and convert to mother shares any time after it is listed (should be around 1 week time). You can also sell the warrants in the market, the warrants price should be around  mother share price minus 2 cents.

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-May-2013 16:54) Posted:



How is the impact after today? I'm holding 30 lots now. Am I right to say that I can subscribe 15 lots at $0.02/share? What about the so-called bonus warrant attached? So total how many shares do I have in total after the subscription?

Some sifu kindly advise me. I'm getting confused now.

 

 

 


 
 
Trade888
    27-May-2013 17:10  
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You will be given 15 lots of bonus warrants.  You can exercise the warrants @ 2 cents ea and convert to mother shares any time after it is listed (should be around 1 week time). You can also sell the warrants in the market, the warrants price should be around  mother share price minus 2 cents.

JarolLo      ( Date: 27-May-2013 16:54) Posted:



How is the impact after today? I'm holding 30 lots now. Am I right to say that I can subscribe 15 lots at $0.02/share? What about the so-called bonus warrant attached? So total how many shares do I have in total after the subscription?

Some sifu kindly advise me. I'm getting confused now.

 

 

 

clickshop1628      ( Date: 27-May-2013 11:17) Posted:

Looking good. Looks like BBs want to close this high so that ex-bonus will be good. Huat liao  Smiley


 

 
JarolLo
    27-May-2013 16:54  
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How is the impact after today? I'm holding 30 lots now. Am I right to say that I can subscribe 15 lots at $0.02/share? What about the so-called bonus warrant attached? So total how many shares do I have in total after the subscription?

Some sifu kindly advise me. I'm getting confused now.

 

 

 

clickshop1628      ( Date: 27-May-2013 11:17) Posted:

Looking good. Looks like BBs want to close this high so that ex-bonus will be good. Huat liao  Smiley

clickshop1628      ( Date: 27-May-2013 10:29) Posted:



No more false breakout? Afternoon, may be able to burst through 12.5? If can, then cheong towards 15cts (hoping).

Tomorrow ex-bonus, if trade above 12cts, all bee tang leow  Smiley


 
 
clickshop1628
    27-May-2013 11:17  
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Looking good. Looks like BBs want to close this high so that ex-bonus will be good. Huat liao  Smiley

clickshop1628      ( Date: 27-May-2013 10:29) Posted:



No more false breakout? Afternoon, may be able to burst through 12.5? If can, then cheong towards 15cts (hoping).

Tomorrow ex-bonus, if trade above 12cts, all bee tang leow  Smiley

 
 
clickshop1628
    27-May-2013 10:29  
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No more false breakout? Afternoon, may be able to burst through 12.5? If can, then cheong towards 15cts (hoping).

Tomorrow ex-bonus, if trade above 12cts, all bee tang leow  Smiley
 
 
wesely2k
    27-May-2013 10:19  
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testing 0.125???
 

 
Pittcyh
    25-May-2013 11:15  
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Cannon Behind The Horse!!!!!
马 后 炮 (mă hòu pào)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stockmarketmind      ( Date: 25-May-2013 07:20) Posted:



There was a fake breakout in Ntegrator on Thursday.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/05/ntegrator-fake-breakout.html 

 
 
iwonder
    25-May-2013 09:14  
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Stockmarketmind posting are  always backdated  which is useless......only for advertisement purpose.

When it comes to advertisement, everybody knows there are lots of gimmicks.

I doubt whether it is  genuine or not. 

Sincerely. I think clickshop posting is many times better.....it is value investing.

clickshop1628      ( Date: 25-May-2013 08:37) Posted:



Aiyo, why post now after the event? Now we already know BBs push to distribute at 12.3/12.4. They could have bought back at 11.3/11.4 that day.  If Monday cheong back up, you will say it is a big flush to shake out weak holders?

If you really want to contribute, please post BEFORE the event, thanks Smiley





stockmarketmind      ( Date: 25-May-2013 07:20) Posted:



There was a fake breakout in Ntegrator on Thursday.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/05/ntegrator-fake-breakout.html 


 
 
halleluyah
    25-May-2013 08:53  
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Bro stockmarketmind, many times aredi yr posting r all outdated whether the counters go up or down. Unlike bro New123, all his postings r BEFORE hand n vry zhun. In future, if i were to send my son fr courses i'll definitely pick Bro New123 class. Hope u can share before hand next time...tks.

clickshop1628      ( Date: 25-May-2013 08:37) Posted:



Aiyo, why post now after the event? Now we already know BBs push to distribute at 12.3/12.4. They could have bought back at 11.3/11.4 that day.  If Monday cheong back up, you will say it is a big flush to shake out weak holders?

If you really want to contribute, please post BEFORE the event, thanks Smiley





stockmarketmind      ( Date: 25-May-2013 07:20) Posted:



There was a fake breakout in Ntegrator on Thursday.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/05/ntegrator-fake-breakout.html 


 
 
clickshop1628
    25-May-2013 08:37  
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Aiyo, why post now after the event? Now we already know BBs push to distribute at 12.3/12.4. They could have bought back at 11.3/11.4 that day.  If Monday cheong back up, you will say it is a big flush to shake out weak holders?

If you really want to contribute, please post BEFORE the event, thanks Smiley





stockmarketmind      ( Date: 25-May-2013 07:20) Posted:



There was a fake breakout in Ntegrator on Thursday.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/05/ntegrator-fake-breakout.html 

 
 
stockmarketmind
    25-May-2013 07:20  
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There was a fake breakout in Ntegrator on Thursday.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/05/ntegrator-fake-breakout.html 
 

 
tea444u
    24-May-2013 20:28  
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ok thanks all..i understand alredy..thank u

FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-May-2013 20:25) Posted:

We shall see.

Anyway I will scoop up on Mon.
But stag if it run too high

 
 
FearValueGreed
    24-May-2013 20:25  
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We shall see.

Anyway I will scoop up on Mon.
But stag if it run too high
 
 
clickshop1628
    24-May-2013 19:58  
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Sorry, my mistake. Should be Monday 11.4 to 11.8 cts .....

clickshop1628      ( Date: 24-May-2013 19:56) Posted:



Wah, I think you did not read my post properly.

I said Monday 18cts, not ex-bonus 18cts.  You can retire if Monday's price is 18cts? LOL.

Also, bonus shares are different from bonus warrants because of potential, delayed exercise of warrants as explained earlier. Dilution does not come YET because warrants are not exercised into shares yet. However, the warrants may be exercised* into shares near to expiry date which is some years away.

*But if share price falls below exercise price (as in Aztech's case), then no one in their right mind will exercise the warrants into shares, hence " potential, delayed dilution" .


With bonus shares, it is immediate dilution and more shares will flood the market when the bonus shares are listed. With bonus warrants, no immediate dilution and very likely, nobody will go and exercise the warrants immediately so there is no overhang of shares when the warrants start trading.

Hope this is clear  Smiley








FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-May-2013 11:13) Posted:

Wa u all so optimistic. If 18 cents I can submit my early retirement.

Bonus warrant is no different from bonus share except mr N get additional fund from public and made them felt richer n feel the good factor from the bonus word. Equity remains same to the investor but the depth of water reduces ie the same pail of water will pour into a bigger one. More surface area less depth.aka lower eps.

From statistics , such bonus scheme usually made investor worse off after the long run ie more than 1 year. So if u were to buy before ex date, make sure u get out by year end, unless of course mr N demonstrate solid contract grabbing.


 
 
clickshop1628
    24-May-2013 19:56  
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Wah, I think you did not read my post properly.

I said Monday 18cts, not ex-bonus 18cts.  You can retire if Monday's price is 18cts? LOL.

Also, bonus shares are different from bonus warrants because of potential, delayed exercise of warrants as explained earlier. Dilution does not come YET because warrants are not exercised into shares yet. However, the warrants may be exercised* into shares near to expiry date which is some years away.

*But if share price falls below exercise price (as in Aztech's case), then no one in their right mind will exercise the warrants into shares, hence " potential, delayed dilution" .


With bonus shares, it is immediate dilution and more shares will flood the market when the bonus shares are listed. With bonus warrants, no immediate dilution and very likely, nobody will go and exercise the warrants immediately so there is no overhang of shares when the warrants start trading.

Hope this is clear  Smiley








FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-May-2013 11:13) Posted:

Wa u all so optimistic. If 18 cents I can submit my early retirement.

Bonus warrant is no different from bonus share except mr N get additional fund from public and made them felt richer n feel the good factor from the bonus word. Equity remains same to the investor but the depth of water reduces ie the same pail of water will pour into a bigger one. More surface area less depth.aka lower eps.

From statistics , such bonus scheme usually made investor worse off after the long run ie more than 1 year. So if u were to buy before ex date, make sure u get out by year end, unless of course mr N demonstrate solid contract grabbing.

 
 
beemerc
    24-May-2013 18:30  
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Doesn't that mean Mr N is heavily overbought already? In that case how come the stock would continue to " cheong" ? Sorry I do not have much experience in stocks and would like to learn more from the gurus here

gnsmj5056      ( Date: 24-May-2013 16:41) Posted:



Call it Mr N or some call it Auntie Grator but this counter seems to have already' Breakout" above the upper Bollinger top of 112  since the last 2 trading days,based on the chart analysis   ? But unfortunately I dont know how to attach this counter chart here.

I would tend to agree with the view that it will continue to " cheong" .

 

To all vested " huat" ... arhh 

  Dyodd

Vested 

FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-May-2013 15:34) Posted:

Look likes nikkei will hit back 15000 on mon.

Perfect scenario for mr N to flourish .

Upside at most 134.

My final reserve troops all in towards ChinaKorea border for last plunder before the PRC conduct their ambush on tue dawn.


Good luck.





 
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