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niuyear
    08-Oct-2009 16:03  
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Is only when ppl interested, price can then move up further.  Smiley

ozone2002      ( Date: 08-Oct-2009 13:02) Posted:



when price chiong.. everyone becomes interested..

such is the behaviour of humans..

 
 
nickyng
    08-Oct-2009 15:44  
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ozone2002
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when price chiong.. everyone becomes interested..

such is the behaviour of humans..
 

 
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    08-Oct-2009 12:24  
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richtan
    08-Oct-2009 12:21  
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Gold expert said 1650 in 2011. Laughing

Gold May Reach $1,650 in 2011, James Sinclair Says


Oct. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Gold may climb to $1,650 an ounce by early 2011 on demand for an alternative to holding dollars and other currencies, said James Sinclair, a commodity investor and the head of Tanzanian Royalty Exploration Corp.

“The carry trade has dropped the dollar as a currency of choice,” Sinclair, the chief executive officer of Surrey, British Columbia-based Tanzanian Royalty, said today in a Bloomberg Radio interview. “Gold is competition to currencies.”

Today, gold futures touched $1,049.70 in New York, reaching a record for a second straight day. The spot price is heading for the ninth annual gain as demand rises for a hedge against inflation and the dollar heads toward a loss for the year. Some investors are buying the metal on concern that ballooning U.S. government debt will drive the dollar lower.

There is an “extreme amount of liquidity that has been injected in the financial system, not just in the U.S., but around the globe,” Sinclair said. The dollar has been undermined by major trading partners suggesting an alternative to the greenback and by China’s attempts to “internationalize” its currency by issuing more debt, Sinclair said.

President Barack Obama has increased marketable U.S. debt to an unprecedented $7.1 trillion as the government borrows to revive growth. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. has predicted that the U.S. will sell about $2.9 trillion of debt in the two years through next September.

Metal Properties

Tanzanian Royalty says on its Web site that it explores for gold and owns property in Tanzania, more than half of which was the subject of development agreements with other companies, including Barrick Gold Corp., in April. Sinclair and his family became Tanzanian Royalty’s biggest shareholders in April 2002, according to a statement from the predecessor companies.

The shares declined 1 cent, or 0.3 percent, to C$3.127 on the Toronto Stock Exchange. The stock is down 40 percent this year.

Sinclair ran his own trading company in the 1970s and achieved renown in 1980 by selling 900,000 ounces of gold at an average price of $810 as the metal was capping a decade-long rally, the New York Times reported in 2006.

Gold futures for December delivery rose $4.90, or 0.5 percent, to $1,044.60 on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. Before today, the metal gained 18 percent this year, while the dollar dropped 6.1 percent against a basket of six major currencies.

To contact the reporters on this story: Halia Pavliva in New York at hpavliva@bloomberg.net; Thomas R. Keene in New York at tkeene@bloomberg.net
 
 
richtan
    08-Oct-2009 12:17  
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NIA Says Gold Could Rise to $5,400

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FORT LEE, N.J., Oct. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Inflation Association today released the following statement to its http://inflation.us members:

"Gold hit a new all time high today of $1,044 per ounce and it looks like this break out above $1,000 could be permanent. While this may be a new all time high in nominal terms, adjusted for inflation gold's high in 1980 of $850 equates to $2,300 per ounce in today's dollars. We believe the inflationary crisis we are rapidly approaching will be much worse than the inflation of the 1970's. Therefore, $2,300 per ounce gold could be here sooner than anybody thinks is possible…

http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/1654959.html
 

 
richtan
    08-Oct-2009 12:07  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Gold bubble? Reply with quote

Can you believe it? They go to Jon "Tokyo Rose" Nadler, the dimwit, for a fundamental gold analysis … to a guy who has been wrong most of the way up. On the other hand, they went to the right guy in John Hathaway, who is a good fellow. John sent one of his colleagues to Gold Rush 21 a little over 4 years ago. Now, John "GETS IT."

So does Bill H:

Gold bubble?

To all; a very good friend just pointed out to me the most comical of occurrences! I should not say comical, it is actually tragic. Just turn on CNBC and wait 5 minutes or less and you will hear "are we experiencing a Gold bubble?". These are the very same boneheads that were buying at the tops of: the dot-com bubble, the housing bubble, the credit bubble in 2007 and don't currently see the U.S. Treasury bubble! They never saw any of it coming and didn't realize it while it was happening but they see this one? Yep, Gold is a bubble alright, it's trading at less than 50% of it's inflation adjusted 1980 highs and must be a bubble because it just made a new high after an 18 month consolidation!

How can these bubbleheads spot a bubble anyway? Alan Greenspan told us we can't spot a bubble until it pops, right? Just to get to levels where the supposed U.S. Gold reserves would cover the now "hidden" M3 number, Gold would need to be north of $100,000. What Dollar number would be needed if the U.S. has already sold 80-90% of their Gold? $1 million per ounce? I hope these goatheads don't believe their own bullcrap and actually short Gold because not having any will be bad enough as in a life sentence, being short is a financial death sentence! Anyone who watches CNBC and follows their advice will get exactly what they have coming to them.

Shame on you CNBC, we are entering the greatest currency crisis in history and you are trying to scare Jane and Joe public from the only form of financial protection! You are a bunch of evil JERKS. Regards, Bill H.

Goatheads they are. If you don’t know anything about The Gold Cartel’s price suppression scheme, which kept gold at artificially low prices for more than a decade, then you don’t understand the gold market and will never be able to analyze it correctly. Wake up goatheads!
The yield on the 10 yr T note dropped to 3.18%.

The dollar rose .16 to 76.46. The Orwellians are doing all they can to keep the dollar above 76. The euro lost .0043 to 1.4678. The pound and yen were little changed.

Crude oil fell $1.31 per barrel to $69.57.

The CRB lost 1.10 to 258.37.

More gold goodies:

Wednesday, October 07, 2009

Has the Manager retreated?

Monday’s up $13.50 close in Dec gold saw a 2,547 lot (7.92 tonne) increase in open interest according to the NYMEX website (apparently nothing was distributed to the wire services). This number deserves some consideration. It is low, given the size of the rise. Possibly it implies liquidation by badly singed bears. More likely, and more importantly, it indicates a decision by the omnipresent Seller to withdraw to higher levels.

Of course this thought is stimulated by Tuesday’s action, which from the point of view of gold’s friends was a Day To Remember. Dec gold saw a +$27.20 high and settled up $21.90. Estimated volume was a huge 192,206 contracts. A sell off attempt at the close has subsequently been completely eradicated.

The gold shares responded appropriately: the HUI closed up 7% and the XAU up 6.12%.. The CEF bullion vehicle also closed at a respectable (but not exuberant) 11% premium.

MarketVane’s Bullish Consensus added 2 points to 88%. This sounds high, but gold blow-offs usually see readings in the 90s for several days. The HGNSI picked up 14.2 points to 32.2%. Mark Hulbert discussed his indicator, drawing Bullish conclusions, yesterday:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/contarian-analysis-of-current-gold-market-2009-10-06

"The HGNSI's current level of just 18% is amazing from another perspective as well: Even though gold is within a few dollars of a record, all-time high, the average gold timer is mostly in cash. Clearly, there is no irrational exuberance in the gold pits."

This indicator has been as high as 89.56%. The GLD ETF added 2.44029 tonnes to 1100.5132 tonnes.

At this point it is worth reviewing Martin Pring’s late August discussion of the long term gold chart situation (sound!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqu4L9-lxVE&feature=channel

Local Vietnam gold stood at a $3.96 discount to world gold of $1,038.70 early this morning (Monday $3.09 premium/$1,019.09).

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niuyear
    08-Oct-2009 11:51  
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For those who needs to buy gold as a wedding gift, i think give CASH is better than buying gold.

 

 

Why the price of gold is rising

 

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Gold prices have been rising for eight years

The price of gold has hit a new all-time high.

The precious metal reached a record high of $1,048.4 an ounce on Wednesday.

This came a day after having pushed past the previous peak of $1,033.9, which was set in March last year.

 

WHY HAVE GOLD PRICES REACHED SUCH HIGHS?

There are several factors at play which are leading to demand for gold rising, pushing up the price:

Weakness of the dollar: The greenback is commonly seen as the World's reserve currency. Low interest rates and the US government's massive economic support package have weakened the dollar.

Those who would typically have invested in that currency are looking for other places to put their money where it will, they hope, gain value.

Speculation: A lot of the investment into gold is coming from institutions such as hedge funds - whose money needs to go somewhere.

When banks are offering very low rates of interest on savings - and money can be borrowed extremely cheaply - gold becomes attractive, observers say.

Inflation risk: Gold is seen as a hedge against inflation. Right now, inflation is pretty low, but mounting worries about potential inflation in 2010 may be enticing more investors to the precious metal.

Psychological: Gold has a "primeval" quality argues Adrian Ash of UK online gold exchange, BullionVault.com (which makes money by encouraging people to buy into gold).

He says that while it is essentially a "lump of metal with little purpose", gold tends to hold its value over the long term and is not anchored to the value of cash.

This means that people are drawn to it in uncertain times, Mr Ash adds, though he cautions the price can be volatile.

Seasonal: In Western cultures, individuals buying into gold as an investment remains relatively rare. It is not the kind of advice you are likely to get from a financial adviser, for example.

However, in countries such as China and India, buying gold as in investment is more common. And at this time of year, in the run-up to the Diwali festival, there is a seasonal increase in gold purchases because the metal is traditionally given as a gift.

Indian farmers are also big gold customers at this time of year - seeing it as a way of keep their profits safe after harvest - free from threat of currency fluctuations.

 

DOES THE PRICE OF GOLD REALLY MATTER?

The reality for most people is that their main contact with Gold is when Spandau Ballet gets played on the radio.

Arguably its biggest role is as a sentiment barometer. A high gold price is an indicator that all is not well with the global economy.

It could be bad news if you are looking for an engagement ring or another piece of jewellery. Higher prices are likely to be passed on to shoppers.

On the other hand, it could be good news if you have gold that you no longer want and could do with making some money.

The rising price has seen an explosion in "scrap gold dealing" - where High Street shops and postal companies will offer to turn the gold into cash.

dia is also a countrz

ozone2002      ( Date: 08-Oct-2009 11:15) Posted:

Gold ..the only way is up!

ozone2002      ( Date: 07-Oct-2009 14:19) Posted:

$1,040.. accumulate gold!

dewali coming,xmas coming, CNY coming..festive season coming

inflation coming..



 
 
niuyear
    08-Oct-2009 11:33  
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CW, noted  your reply n effort. Tks.     I bought when it was 88. I think Got potential go up past 1500 , though some pull back  along the way.
 
 
ozone2002
    08-Oct-2009 11:15  
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Gold ..the only way is up!

ozone2002      ( Date: 07-Oct-2009 14:19) Posted:

$1,040.. accumulate gold!

dewali coming,xmas coming, CNY coming..festive season coming

inflation coming..



ozone2002      ( Date: 02-Oct-2009 13:58) Posted:



Gld dipped to $990 now it's back up to above $1k..

looks like Gold will be the in thing..

FOLLOW CHINA buy gold.. they are the only ones doing things smartly...


 

 
iPunter
    08-Oct-2009 06:20  
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Wa, Cheongwee is cheem... very cheem... hehehe... Smiley

cheongwee      ( Date: 08-Oct-2009 04:11) Posted:



Today Dow is down only 5.67pts.....,,if this 5.67 pts drop is in 1930...then today it is  567pts!!!!adjsuted for inflation....my guess only lah...

so do you like inflation for a dow 567 pts drop!!!...jiat lat men..inflation adjusted all dies..

 
 
cheongwee
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Today Dow is down only 5.67pts.....,,if this 5.67 pts drop is in 1930...then today it is  567pts!!!!adjsuted for inflation....my guess only lah...

so do you like inflation for a dow 567 pts drop!!!...jiat lat men..inflation adjusted all dies..
 
 
cheongwee
    08-Oct-2009 03:13  
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OK...inflation adjusted, gold is say to worth $2260...but is gold today $2260???after adjusted for inflation???

all metal have inflation price into them, but not for gold???why???...becos it got mininum industrial uses.....unless copper, platinum, ..etc...it is px,,,beocs it was once money...

in fact..if u vested in 1980 at $850...you loss money...not making...becos 850 is actually equal to today 2260 ( inflation adjusted)...so you loss 2260 minus today gold px of 1047...u loss 1213!!!...

unless u like me, bought gold and silver both physical and stock in 2001 and 2003..at 250 onward...u can never lose...unless gold go to 400 for me...

do you thk gold can go to 2260..in a deflationary environment???..in such a situation...ppl cannot have enough of dollar to pay their debt as dollar disappear due to default on debt.....becos debt are px in $...not gold.
 
 
cheongwee
    08-Oct-2009 02:47  
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below my commentery are for over 5 yrs, but now it look like 2010 bolong to gold...we can play along and make $ ,but like stock, you are playing with BB...so got to be alert.

and to say that just becos it happen twice in history that gold and dow cross...this time it have to cross, is a bit offside...unless, it happen hundred of times..

and the ratio of silver to gold is 16 to 1 is also out...there are not law to dictate that also.

historically, the ratio was use also in ancient China, Middle east,,they got their own ratio...becos , gold and silver was use as money...silver was functioning like small change ...like coin and dollar...so ten ..10c make a dollar...something like...

the so call gold standard are dead, to go back there...is a dream,,,it is not possible...

you can go kitco.com and read there...i do posting there also...but like here...there the gold bug hate me, becos i post honest thing abt gold, they dont like to hear...

then why are you vested.in gold and silver, cheongwee??...simple...i am in it to make $...follow the trend...and not like gold bug...they fall in love with gold and silver......like some of you here fall in love with your stock.....not me!!!

BTW..i am known as silversoar at kitco forum...see you there....
 
 
cheongwee
    08-Oct-2009 02:33  
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u shd have vested in gold way back in 2001 or 2003 like i do...but i was in this line then...jewellery .

not now..it is.too dangerous..gold is volitale..silver is even worse..u see the chart u know..

why deflation and not inflation...becos of the trillion dollar printing...u must know the deriavative is to the tune of few hundred trillion, much more than the  1 over trillion dollar Ben is goinging to print..

now what happen if all those end in default as economy got worse ....the dollar and credit simply disappear into thin air...faster than Ben can print....so how to get inflation...a few trillion gone...to be replace by 2 trillion...that will make the dollar soar sky high...

in deflation Dollar is king...

i thk it is too long to explain here...i recommend you this book you can buy at kinokuniya

it is call.."Conquer the Crash"...by Robert Prechter...you can learn from there alot abt deflation..

i beleieve..if depression come, it is going to be a deflationary , not inflationary...

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cheongwee
    08-Oct-2009 02:20  
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well, then i will say something, since i am not able to sleep yet....

now u must understand why is gold soaring?...weak US$...why weak US$...fed is printiong trillion in paper dollar..ppl thk inflation...so buy gold to heck...and who is buying..

if you read this below fr CNN today..you know who is buying. (highlighted in yellow for you)......you must know for gold to really soar ..retailer must be the main buyer...currently...20% of gold are for investment demand...that is institution.(BB)...60% are for jewellery.if i am not wrong 80% of this go to india....and 20% for dentistry and some other industrial uses..

and the future is not inflation, we have yet to have inflation...in fact, expert are saying deflation...even current corprate earning are effected by deflation...

fed scare deflation, the most...now with rate near zero,,,the so call carry trade have push the US$ to very low....

and you thk who are playing the carry trade...BB again...

i am worry now is that they are playing the gold market ,oil market... next, they come back and play the dollar...this will cause dollar to soar big time...and stock and gold and oil to collapse..

so dont be too carry away and say gold is shining...yes, maybe like internat bubble..who know.,.but it is unlikely...i see that to happen soon...becos the $ have been low for 9 months already..

i thk i carry on , on the next post...

 

Gold hits another record

The precious metal continues to climb as investors fret about the weak dollar and inflation. Large funds do most of the buying.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Gold continued to push higher into record territory Wednesday amid concerns about a weak dollar, inflation and technical-based buying by large investment funds.

December gold was up $3.20 to $1042.90 an ounce, after closing at a record high of $1,039.70 in the previous session. Earlier in the session, gold traded as high as $1,048.20, topping Tuesday's intraday high by $3 an ounce.

Gold, which is up 17% so far this year, has been supported recently by concerns about the weak U.S. dollar and bets that inflation will rise over the long term as the economy recovers and stimulus measures will have to be reversed.

Analysts expect the rally to continue and say gold could push past $1,050 this week and top $1,100 in the near future.

Tom Winmill, president of Midas Funds, which manages gold-oriented mutual funds, expects gold to trade at $1,100 by the end of the year and average $1,200 in the first quarter of 2010.

He said rock-bottom interest rates and an ever-expanding U.S. budget deficit "means that gold will have a good underpinning of support through the end of the year."

The recent rally has also been driven by large investment funds and dealers covering short positions, analysts said.

"Much of the buying has been by institutional investors," according to a research report from analysts at CPM group. "There has been very little buying by smaller, retail investors."

While gold will continue to rally in the near term, the lack of retail investors raises concerns that prices could fall sharply once the momentum fades, CPM group said.

"An absence of buying from retail investors often suggests that a sharp jump in prices will not be sustained and that prices will fall back," CPM group wrote.

Meanwhile, the dollar recovered some ground Wednesday, but is still down 10% versus a basket of currencies since its most recent high in March.

Analysts expect the greenback to deteriorate further as the U.S. budget deficit swells and investors flock to higher yielding currencies.

"The amount of U.S. debt is staggering," Winmill said, adding that health care reform and other government proposals mean the deficit could continue to grow.

"There's no way to pay for these obligations so they're going to have to print money," he said. And that means inflation is on the horizon "because the more dollars there are the less they buy," he said.  To top of page



niuyear      ( Date: 02-Oct-2009 16:53) Posted:



Below Extract for  CheongWee 'zie zie' to comment. Tks. :)

 

Gold's primary trend is up, targeting at least $3,130.00; silver's primary is up targeting 16:1 gold/silver ratio or $195.66; stocks' primary trend is down, targeting Dow under 2,900 and worth only one ounce of gold; US$ or US$-denominated assets, primary trend down; real estate in a bubble, primary trend way down.

 
 
ozone2002
    07-Oct-2009 14:19  
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$1,040.. accumulate gold!

dewali coming,xmas coming, CNY coming..festive season coming

inflation coming..



ozone2002      ( Date: 02-Oct-2009 13:58) Posted:



Gld dipped to $990 now it's back up to above $1k..

looks like Gold will be the in thing..

FOLLOW CHINA buy gold.. they are the only ones doing things smartly...

 
 
niuyear
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Gold's primary trend is up, targeting at least $3,130.00; silver's primary is up targeting 16:1 gold/silver ratio or $195.66; stocks' primary trend is down, targeting Dow under 2,900 and worth only one ounce of gold; US$ or US$-denominated assets, primary trend down; real estate in a bubble, primary trend way down.
 
 
ozone2002
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Gld dipped to $990 now it's back up to above $1k..

looks like Gold will be the in thing..

FOLLOW CHINA buy gold.. they are the only ones doing things smartly...
 
 
cheongwee
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to make comparison always bring hurt to our esteem, our pride, thus derail us, demoralise us, so we feel lousy and defeated...

so if you still want to compare, make sure it is balance...dont compare with the top...also compare with the bottom.

remember for every 1 guy who are well off than you, there are 4 out there worst than you...

so now you feel good, happy and lucky , right???.alot more worse than you...really...there are always one mountain higher..

look at that guy fr Crystal Jade...how he make it!!! fantastic..dont compare...

it is the will of God..and heaven..thus the christian said.."Your will be done, Not mine.."

All work are distressing under heaven, life is vanity chasing after the wind.....what you make today, you leave behind for other, u cant bring across...that crematorium door..

so when you lose , u dont say u lose,... how to lose when it is not yours in the first place..

it was there before u were here..it just that it is under your management...soon you have to handover that managemenet to someone...

dont feel bad, count your blessing....dont compare..
 
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