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wxp8838
    08-Nov-2013 17:34  
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I don't know ,but I  believe   it will go up sooner or later .anyway ,I have already waitted for a long time  when it named biotreat.

See one more week.after that news ,it  does  not go down ,it will go up ,just need a good news ,really good news.

 

ynnek1267      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 17:25) Posted:



Wait for what? wait the share consolidate 10 to 1 and price go to 60+.  The, the management suka suka issue right to you  or looking for private placement to cash in and dilute your share back to 6cents again.

The china management only care how to take the capital market, but never care how to rewards the shareholders loh.

The longer you wait, the more you hurt.

This is S-Chip, what you can do. If this is singapore management, the management may worry you stand outside his house and block his door loh. China management, you only can do nothing and wait till suspended or continue sucking your hard earn money only.

wxp8838      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 17:14) Posted:

David chen is a ass-hole ,make this han-whore be hopeless,helpless. It should be a good share ,now ,no one will to tough it and some jerks pulled   the price from going up . I can wait ,because I cut my Oceanus   to hold my ST of hanwhore ,what the hell.


 
 
ynnek1267
    08-Nov-2013 17:25  
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Wait for what? wait the share consolidate 10 to 1 and price go to 60+.  The, the management suka suka issue right to you  or looking for private placement to cash in and dilute your share back to 6cents again.

The china management only care how to take the capital market, but never care how to rewards the shareholders loh.

The longer you wait, the more you hurt.

This is S-Chip, what you can do. If this is singapore management, the management may worry you stand outside his house and block his door loh. China management, you only can do nothing and wait till suspended or continue sucking your hard earn money only.

wxp8838      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 17:14) Posted:

David chen is a ass-hole ,make this han-whore be hopeless,helpless. It should be a good share ,now ,no one will to tough it and some jerks pulled   the price from going up . I can wait ,because I cut my Oceanus   to hold my ST of hanwhore ,what the hell.

 
 
wxp8838
    08-Nov-2013 17:14  
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David chen is a ass-hole ,make this han-whore be hopeless,helpless. It should be a good share ,now ,no one will to tough it and some jerks pulled   the price from going up . I can wait ,because I cut my Oceanus   to hold my ST of hanwhore ,what the hell.
 

 
new6ie
    08-Nov-2013 15:44  
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Thanks for your appreciation.   It is always a pleasure to share some knowledge and experience for the benefit of others.




Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 15:08) Posted:



newbie bro, the forum needs more people like u who can offer a more balanced view. Pity you didnt come in earlier to throw some caution around.   

 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 15:08  
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newbie bro, the forum needs more people like u who can offer a more balanced view. Pity you didnt come in earlier to throw some caution around.   
 
 
new6ie
    08-Nov-2013 15:02  
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US market is better.   They have all kinds of platforms for automatic cut-loss if you put up the cut-loss price,   the limit buy and sell at any price without restrictions.   Off hours can still place an order (pending market opens, and after market closes).. Their shares issues are limited, few million shares for trading unlike our billions of issued shares for trading.   They have lesser occasion for rights issues asking you for money like our sg companies.   They have options to trade, with long expiration at your own choice, not like our structured warrants with only one month to expire.

My wife used to warn me, hey be careful when you trade sg stocks, they " jiat lang one arh" .   At first I don't quite 100% believed her. Now I must take the advice seriously after all the experience.

Sorry, the last part is part joke, part reality. Hehe. 

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 14:42) Posted:

yalar true lar, not just asian markets nowadays everywhere oso abt the same europe US all also become a speculative world liao. Jin chamz. If i able to redeem my losses or part of it i jolly well wash my hands clean and quit liao. Not suitable for peasants like me who do not have loads of extra cash with no place to stash. I rather be contented to slog my life thru & keep my hard earnings in the bank. At least not so kek sim. Tio bo bro?

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 13:58) Posted:

All markets are speculative :) even entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates, Larry Page, Steve Jobs are speculators in their own right. It is about how you manage that speculation


 

 
cccx123
    08-Nov-2013 14:47  
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Buy stocks with a low beta and high dividend yields if you cannot stomach the volatility.

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 14:42) Posted:

yalar true lar, not just asian markets nowadays everywhere oso abt the same europe US all also become a speculative world liao. Jin chamz. If i able to redeem my losses or part of it i jolly well wash my hands clean and quit liao. Not suitable for peasants like me who do not have loads of extra cash with no place to stash. I rather be contented to slog my life thru & keep my hard earnings in the bank. At least not so kek sim. Tio bo bro?

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 13:58) Posted:

All markets are speculative :) even entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates, Larry Page, Steve Jobs are speculators in their own right. It is about how you manage that speculation


 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 14:45  
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Huh, means quarterly results on 14 nov also wont move? Chamz liao lar. Dont even know when the consoliadtion will happen. Wait till then & hankore still at 6.4c i die cham chamz. Either cut loss or become a stuckist. tmd.

new6ie      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 14:17) Posted:



I believe HK would not move much until and after the consolidation.

Then there would be a period of dinging donging when details of new share issues are announced and people start to analyse about the effect of such issues if any. 

 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 14:42  
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yalar true lar, not just asian markets nowadays everywhere oso abt the same europe US all also become a speculative world liao. Jin chamz. If i able to redeem my losses or part of it i jolly well wash my hands clean and quit liao. Not suitable for peasants like me who do not have loads of extra cash with no place to stash. I rather be contented to slog my life thru & keep my hard earnings in the bank. At least not so kek sim. Tio bo bro?

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 13:58) Posted:

All markets are speculative :) even entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates, Larry Page, Steve Jobs are speculators in their own right. It is about how you manage that speculation.

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 11:25) Posted:



tamade. Sg mkt really no need to tok abt  any FA. Too speculative in nature liao. One day could be in heaven the next day could be in hell. Bought at high price sure die cham cham only bring high misery become  stuckists. Sg mkt can only buy if price is cheap, and if u think is cheap only. High cannot buy or sure deep misery. Sg mkt is Not about  value investing. Its abt Abt price investing. Even if a stock has good value, also no use. Damn sAD. Better quit sg mkt until something proper is in place. Please tell your kids as well in future dont play play sg mkt will lose big time. And only jeep in crisis time when STI falls half from its high and Invest in blue chips during bad times.


 
 
new6ie
    08-Nov-2013 14:17  
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I believe HK would not move much until and after the consolidation.

Then there would be a period of dinging donging when details of new share issues are announced and people start to analyse about the effect of such issues if any. 
 

 
cccx123
    08-Nov-2013 14:13  
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All water stocks today flying..SIIC, MemstarT, Hyflux and UtdEnviroTech all putting on weight. This one still stuck at 6.4cts and threatening to go lower. Haiz.. Queuing at 6.4cts for a miracle.
 
 
new6ie
    08-Nov-2013 14:03  
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I do have the same thoughts and don't have the good feelings about our Singapore stock market.  

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 11:25) Posted:



tamade. Sg mkt really no need to tok abt  any FA. Too speculative in nature liao. One day could be in heaven the next day could be in hell. Bought at high price sure die cham cham only bring high misery become  stuckists. Sg mkt can only buy if price is cheap, and if u think is cheap only. High cannot buy or sure deep misery. Sg mkt is Not about  value investing. Its abt Abt price investing. Even if a stock has good value, also no use. Damn sAD. Better quit sg mkt until something proper is in place. Please tell your kids as well in future dont play play sg mkt will lose big time. And only jeep in crisis time when STI falls half from its high and Invest in blue chips during bad times.

 
 
cccx123
    08-Nov-2013 13:58  
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All markets are speculative :) even entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates, Larry Page, Steve Jobs are speculators in their own right. It is about how you manage that speculation.

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 11:25) Posted:



tamade. Sg mkt really no need to tok abt  any FA. Too speculative in nature liao. One day could be in heaven the next day could be in hell. Bought at high price sure die cham cham only bring high misery become  stuckists. Sg mkt can only buy if price is cheap, and if u think is cheap only. High cannot buy or sure deep misery. Sg mkt is Not about  value investing. Its abt Abt price investing. Even if a stock has good value, also no use. Damn sAD. Better quit sg mkt until something proper is in place. Please tell your kids as well in future dont play play sg mkt will lose big time. And only jeep in crisis time when STI falls half from its high and Invest in blue chips during bad times.

 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 11:25  
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tamade. Sg mkt really no need to tok abt  any FA. Too speculative in nature liao. One day could be in heaven the next day could be in hell. Bought at high price sure die cham cham only bring high misery become  stuckists. Sg mkt can only buy if price is cheap, and if u think is cheap only. High cannot buy or sure deep misery. Sg mkt is Not about  value investing. Its abt Abt price investing. Even if a stock has good value, also no use. Damn sAD. Better quit sg mkt until something proper is in place. Please tell your kids as well in future dont play play sg mkt will lose big time. And only jeep in crisis time when STI falls half from its high and Invest in blue chips during bad times.
 
 
cccx123
    08-Nov-2013 11:02  
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Sure but might be wrong so exercise caution. I just bought Mirach yesterday at 21.5cts btw. Fingers crossed for a short term rebound to recent high of 25cts. Short term trade only with tight stop loss.

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:49) Posted:

ok thanks, pls send me a private message to alert me okie?

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:35) Posted:

I don't know.. Still watching. Just stopped collecting only.


 

 
seanpent
    08-Nov-2013 11:00  
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Bro, I agree with you ... especially the " shorting of stocks is against the principle of investment" ... can genuine investors feedback via SIAS ?

new6ie      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:40) Posted:



Shorting is a bad thing for the stock market.

The authorities should ban short selling in any form whether naked or by borrowing stocks.   This is because shorting of stocks is against the principle of investment.

CFD was probably created for the purpose of shorting, so it should be the one and only means for shorting the market by selling a CFD.   Just use CFD and not borrowed shares because CFD cannot manipulate the prices of the " parent shares" while selling on borrowed stocks can drastically destroy the market.

Hope the people who are concerned with an orderly market, make an effort to analyse the consequences of shorting by borrowed shares. I know this kind of call will fall flat on deaf ears as the lobby for shorting has huge interest in it, but hope is always good for it may one day come to pass.

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:27) Posted:

I can almost imagine the former shortists who kept depressing the stock rubbing their hands in glee at this consolidation exercise. There's going to be so much meat for everyone! And more to go around.. David has shot himself in the foot and given a slap to those who helped overcome the shortists months ago.


 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 10:53  
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that means to say sgx is lousy & the sg mkt is still not a good place to be invested in, right? HArd earned monies all down the drain becos of shortists. tmd. Cheats. Cons.
 
 
Spivvy
    08-Nov-2013 10:49  
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ok thanks, pls send me a private message to alert me okie?

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:35) Posted:

I don't know.. Still watching. Just stopped collecting only.

Spivvy      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:32) Posted:

bro, i mean when are U selling


 
 
cccx123
    08-Nov-2013 10:49  
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I disagree. There are two kinds of shorts in the open market (discounting CFDs and other OTC products).

One type of short is the one in Singapore, which is extremely harmful to investors and the health of the market because shortists can throw scripts at the buy queue and force the price to levels which will cause retailers to panic and unload on the cheap for the shorts to cover. This type of short is ridiculous and will only destroy sentiments. I doubt the trio would have been depressed to such levels if not for short selling activities conducted by banks, both local and foreign. These activities triggered stop losses and margin calls which flooded the market with stocks, causing further down trends.

The other type of short is where the uptick rule is upheld. Here, people can only short the stock by queuing to sell at a tick or two above the last done price. This prevents shorts from depressing the price by selling down at the buy queues. The most such shorts can do is put a cap on the price.

The second type of shorts as stated above is most desirable. But SGX, being the operator and regulator will never accept it until it gets its priorities straight. Such rulings will decrease volumes and directly affect the bottom lines of the company. Short of a billionaire coming in to teach sgx a lesson by shorting their stock on a massive scale, I honestly do not see what will make them change.


new6ie      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:40) Posted:



Shorting is a bad thing for the stock market.

The authorities should ban short selling in any form whether naked or by borrowing stocks.   This is because shorting of stocks is against the principle of investment.

CFD was probably created for the purpose of shorting, so it should be the one and only means for shorting the market by selling a CFD.   Just use CFD and not borrowed shares because CFD cannot manipulate the prices of the " parent shares" while selling on borrowed stocks can drastically destroy the market.

Hope the people who are concerned with an orderly market, make an effort to analyse the consequences of shorting by borrowed shares. I know this kind of call will fall flat on deaf ears as the lobby for shorting has huge interest in it, but hope is always good for it may one day come to pass.

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:27) Posted:

I can almost imagine the former shortists who kept depressing the stock rubbing their hands in glee at this consolidation exercise. There's going to be so much meat for everyone! And more to go around.. David has shot himself in the foot and given a slap to those who helped overcome the shortists months ago.


 
 
new6ie
    08-Nov-2013 10:40  
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Shorting is a bad thing for the stock market.

The authorities should ban short selling in any form whether naked or by borrowing stocks.   This is because shorting of stocks is against the principle of investment.

CFD was probably created for the purpose of shorting, so it should be the one and only means for shorting the market by selling a CFD.   Just use CFD and not borrowed shares because CFD cannot manipulate the prices of the " parent shares" while selling on borrowed stocks can drastically destroy the market.

Hope the people who are concerned with an orderly market, make an effort to analyse the consequences of shorting by borrowed shares. I know this kind of call will fall flat on deaf ears as the lobby for shorting has huge interest in it, but hope is always good for it may one day come to pass.

cccx123      ( Date: 08-Nov-2013 10:27) Posted:

I can almost imagine the former shortists who kept depressing the stock rubbing their hands in glee at this consolidation exercise. There's going to be so much meat for everyone! And more to go around.. David has shot himself in the foot and given a slap to those who helped overcome the shortists months ago.

 
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