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thought the same about rex too... maybe they haf better fundamentals but still we dont see the profits yet...yet stocks like vallianz that is making profits... so low..and then got real story developing yet market ignore... this mkt is not a good one... 

  does not value fundamentally strong stocks at all.,.. all about tricking others to buy lousy companies and then throw them down of a sudden...be careful. 

camukaba      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 20:09) Posted: I wonder if the same thing apply to REX. I was never vested in it, but it just keeps rising and rising since IPO. Everytime I ask myself why is it rising, and whether I should enter, I couldn't answer because I see lots of expansion plans but no material gains...it's really more like buying on their future. It's kinda the same reason why I was never vested in Blumont Yet the counter still held strong today...does it mean that they do have strong fundamentals after all? Or is it just not its turn to be corrected?

 

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I used to post here very actively last time.. but gave up along the way..when people can lead people into believing that fundamental of a stock is not important besides technical analysis..
I still remember months back I posted here to remind everyone the important of fundamental though I am more of   a technical analysis myself.. but got hit off immediately.. 

Anyway, I really hope those got hit by this managed to get thru this hard time and everything will be fine regardless of what you are facing..Stay strong and don't being lead by anyone to believe something that they believe..




 

Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn. JarolLo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:19) Posted: I think only OKH can consider. Still look strong despite the bad sentiment in the market, but don't know whether can tahan or not if market continue so bad. Not vested but keep observing in my watch list.

 

Yup... I agreed too.. in stocks.. there is no think and hope. .. I'm not a winner.. but I lose enough to know some facts... think n hope sure die one... just my view only.

joseeng      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:47) Posted: Agree with bro sc, I will also avoid these 2 counters....cheers Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn.

 

Bro maybe can consider take loans from bank if the loss is reall huge?

Peter_Pan      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 22:02) Posted: how much is ur exposure? stockmax      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 21:59) Posted: too much too pay by instalment how> > > > > > > ????????

 

how much is ur exposure?

stockmax      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 21:59) Posted: too much too pay by instalment how> > > > > > > ????????

 

too much too pay by instalment how> > > > > > > ????????

 

I think it's the same for contra loss. Negotiate with your dealer whether can pay by installment?

stockmax      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 21:40) Posted: hi bros,   Can ask if stock susp and i dun have $$$ to pay, what will happen????/

 

hi bros,

 

Can ask if stock susp and i dun have $$$ to pay, what will happen????/ 

 

Bro, this one also quite risky. If not for the selldown, it should have tested 1 bux....just my opinions....cheers

camukaba      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 20:09) Posted: I wonder if the same thing apply to REX. I was never vested in it, but it just keeps rising and rising since IPO. Everytime I ask myself why is it rising, and whether I should enter, I couldn't answer because I see lots of expansion plans but no material gains...it's really more like buying on their future. It's kinda the same reason why I was never vested in Blumont Yet the counter still held strong today...does it mean that they do have strong fundamentals after all? Or is it just not its turn to be corrected?

 

Yes, I agreed. OKH raised because recently the market was hot on shipping and logistic. ChinEnv was because it was predicted that the Chinese govern wanted to "clean up" their environment. These are what I can think of. But both doesn't have strong fundamental support. When global Economic affected due to the recent hu ha in the US, I doubt so anymore excuse for OKH. I've no comment on ChinaEnv as I've not study their case.

Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn. JarolLo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:19) Posted: I think only OKH can consider. Still look strong despite the bad sentiment in the market, but don't know whether can tahan or not if market continue so bad. Not vested but keep observing in my watch list.

 

Agreed on chinaenv
Okh not on my list..not sure

joseeng      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:47) Posted: Agree with bro sc, I will also avoid these 2 counters....cheers Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn.

 

Tk u so much .... :) i q sell but didn't get to me haha

zedteo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:32) Posted: Pass u all my luck! Monday may oceansky rocket!!! Luna69      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:17) Posted: Two open Rex n ocean sky ... Huat ar !!!

 

I wonder if the same thing apply to REX. I was never vested in it, but it just keeps rising and rising since IPO. Everytime I ask myself why is it rising, and whether I should enter, I couldn't answer because I see lots of expansion plans but no material gains...it's really more like buying on their future. It's kinda the same reason why I was never vested in Blumont

Yet the counter still held strong today...does it mean that they do have strong fundamentals after all? Or is it just not its turn to be corrected?

 

Agree with bro sc, I will also avoid these 2 counters....cheers

Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:40) Posted: With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn. JarolLo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:19) Posted: I think only OKH can consider. Still look strong despite the bad sentiment in the market, but don't know whether can tahan or not if market continue so bad. Not vested but keep observing in my watch list.

 

With regards to OKH and ChinaEnv, I only have one question. What is the fundamental value or potential of these 2 companies?. Frankly, I don't know because I'm not good in that. If the company is good, then maybe can justify the increase in price. If not,  I guess very  soon will be their turn.

JarolLo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:19) Posted: I think only OKH can consider. Still look strong despite the bad sentiment in the market, but don't know whether can tahan or not if market continue so bad. Not vested but keep observing in my watch list.    Stockcham      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:13) Posted: Bros & sis, in case you ask me again....just to let you all know.... I'm not holding any counters now. Cut my Amplefield at 72 and Ocean Sky at 355. Yesterday cut my Oakwell when it matched at 110. Loss money but luckily SoupRestn & AP helps to trim some losses. At this point of time, pls don't ask me can buy boh because I believe selling not over yet as mentioned in  my earlier post. Hope all is well. The forum gonna be quiet from now on.... Huat ah! Huat ah! Huat ah!

 

Pass u all my luck! Monday may oceansky rocket!!!

Luna69      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:17) Posted: Two open Rex n ocean sky ... Huat ar !!! zedteo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:15) Posted: Sis, u still have open counter

 

Oh.. I just cut oceansky at 4.59pm. Loss 1+k

Luna69      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:17) Posted: Two open Rex n ocean sky ... Huat ar !!! zedteo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:15) Posted: Sis, u still have open counter

 

Sis, I mean avoid mirach and tritech FOR above 20c counters. I have already said to avoid micro pennies (below 20c) ytd.

Gold916      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:54) Posted: Bro U mean avoids mirach n tritech n above 20c? Think I wana avoid buying til the US thingy have a clearer view ...so scary this week.... joseeng      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 18:09) Posted: Gd luck to us then. If it din close above 93c, I would have cut. Anyway avoid mirach and tritech for above 20c counters for now....my 2

 

Two open Rex n ocean sky ... Huat ar !!!

zedteo      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:15) Posted: Sis, u still have open counter? Luna69      ( Date: 04-Oct-2013 19:00) Posted: Tks bro... Today is scarier then yesterday n bro ace also mention nxt wk will be worst... My broker said penny fever over.... Really has to tighten seat beat for now ....