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idesa168
    02-Jul-2008 10:19  
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You can enquire from POEMS which I am using. No diff from buying and selling, just a marginal commission higher. If we are small players, the com diff are very small.

nickyng      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 10:11) Posted:

gee...never venture in to the CFDs territory..so how much are u folking out for this CFD feature? mabbe u can enlighten fellow SHORTISTS to equip us with another skillset ? :P

hee... 



idesa168      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:44) Posted:

I have learnt my lesson already...never naked short, cannot sleep well. So I applied CFD, sleep very sound...hehehe!!


 
 
nickyng
    02-Jul-2008 10:11  
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gee...never venture in to the CFDs territory..so how much are u folking out for this CFD feature? mabbe u can enlighten fellow SHORTISTS to equip us with another skillset ? :P

hee... 



idesa168      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:44) Posted:

I have learnt my lesson already...never naked short, cannot sleep well. So I applied CFD, sleep very sound...hehehe!!!

nickyng      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:25) Posted:

wow...bravo!! my hero!! i wouldn't even dare to thk of SHORTING at curr price siah!!

hee... :D 



 
 
AK_Francis
    02-Jul-2008 10:05  
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ha  ha, furthermore CFD no stamp duty!!!  Great.

btw, CFD trading in UK makes up almost 40%  of th e country's total stock turnover.
 

 
idesa168
    02-Jul-2008 09:44  
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I have learnt my lesson already...never naked short, cannot sleep well. So I applied CFD, sleep very sound...hehehe!!!

nickyng      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:25) Posted:

wow...bravo!! my hero!! i wouldn't even dare to thk of SHORTING at curr price siah!!

hee... :D 



idesa168      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:21) Posted:

yah, I shorted @0.810 x 25. Let me make some kopi$$ first. Go below 0.80, I might consider long...hehehe!!!


 
 
nickyng
    02-Jul-2008 09:25  
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wow...bravo!! my hero!! i wouldn't even dare to thk of SHORTING at curr price siah!!

hee... :D 



idesa168      ( Date: 02-Jul-2008 09:21) Posted:

yah, I shorted @0.810 x 25. Let me make some kopi$$ first. Go below 0.80, I might consider long...hehehe!!!

 
 
idesa168
    02-Jul-2008 09:21  
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yah, I shorted @0.810 x 25. Let me make some kopi$$ first. Go below 0.80, I might consider long...hehehe!!!
 

 
jackjames
    02-Jul-2008 09:19  
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wait .............................. until i got it first... wait for me !!
 
 
louis_leecs
    02-Jul-2008 08:47  
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dont worry,,,,,,,,,let the shortist earn money first,,,,,,,,when they covering tis baby at 815cts finish,,,,,,,they will turn to buyer,,,,,so my paperloss just a waw only,,,,,,,,,,i will buy more ,,,,,,,,,the bb from gg going to buy soon,,,,,,,,,,let watch closely,,,,,,,,my ah moh remieser tell me that strong rebound akan datang,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
 
yipyip
    02-Jul-2008 02:35  
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Shipbuilding & Repair

Shipbuilders' earnings set to accelerate in next two years
Tony Gray - Monday 30 June 2008
www.lloydslist.com

SHIPBUILDERS’ earnings should advance rapidly in the next two years but moderating order growth and the dramatic increase in capacity could represent downside risks further ahead.

This is one conclusion drawn from a major report on shipbuilding by HSBC, the global bank, which also underlines the increasing importance of the oil industry to shipyards.

The research points out that growth in the order backlog has slowed, although it is still ahead 39% on a year-on-year basis.

“With strong order growth in 2006-07 and a relatively solid orderbook, we expect earnings to accelerate in 2009 and potentially further in 2010 (i.e.up 30%-66%), despite rising steel costs,” HSBC says.

Even so, the shares of major shipbuilders have retreated from their peaks in the second-half of last year, as global economic uncertainties, the strong contracting activity during the past two years, tight credit markets, and the potential oversupply of the global fleet, have combined to increase the risk of a further slow-down in order growth in the near-term.

HSBC expects China to take the place of South Korea as the largest shipbuilding nation “in the not too distant future.”

The bank believes specialised shipyards, such as those with strengths in cruiseships, oil rigs, liquefied natural gas (LNG), and oil production, will survive while others will dwindle away as the low-cost Chinese builders gain market share.

HSBC says the most vulnerable shipbuilders are not those in South Korean, but the Japanese which have a comparatively higher cost base - 1.5 times South Korea’s and seven times higher than China’s in terms of average wages.

And the bank warns that the recent acquisition of a 39% stake in Norway-based Aker Yards, the second largest cruiseship builder after Italy’s Fincantieri, by STX Shipbuilding could indicate that western Europe may be starting to lose its hold on that market to South Korea.

With China’s capacity increases and new entrants from India, Vietnam, and the Philippines, HSBC has “no doubt that the growth of global shipbuilding capacity will accelerate through 2010.”

However, the strong order backlog and delivery demand should “mitigate the risk of excessive capacity in the next few years.”

The bank observes that various third party estimates peg global shipbuilding capacity growth between 50% and 90% from now to 2010.

“Capacities of the two largest shipbuilders, China and South Korea, are expected to double and increase 50%, respectively, by 2010,” the report says.

Aggressive expansion plans could lead to overcapacity if orders continue to moderate and cancellation increases.

“The excessive capacity may lead to weaker newbuild prices of new orders and lower margins.”

One of HSBC’s favoured shipbuilding stocks is South Korea’s Samsung Heavy Industries which it describes as a “deep water oil drilling and production play” with 70% of revenues associated with the oil sector.

Generally, fixed oil and gas platform investments are expected to reach nearly $50bn during 2007 to 2011, which is up 15% compared to the previous five years
 
 
trader88.sg
    01-Jul-2008 22:40  
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Bo Chai Yun (保剂丸) and charcoal pills also cannot stop YZJ's lau sai.... Smiley

trader88.sg      ( Date: 27-Jun-2008 09:07) Posted:

YZJ is still in the toilet!!

jackjames      ( Date: 27-Jun-2008 06:52) Posted:

it might happen soon...



 

 
louis_leecs
    01-Jul-2008 22:34  
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ai yo,,,,,,my ship sinking,,,,,my tis time im become <da zha sie>, my holding from 865...875 and 92cts in negative paperloss,,,,,yak,,,,,,i ngoing to buy tomorow again,,,,,,,,,,,,look like rebound akan datang hehe........ist target 885cts,,,,,,i pit up liao,,,,,,,,let see tis ship chiong ah............................cheers
 
 
idesa168
    01-Jul-2008 21:21  
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Tomorrow idesa will support this counter. 78cents is possible with DJ future so red.
 
 
jackjames
    01-Jul-2008 21:01  
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ha ha... 49 cents ar? wait long long la.. maybe STI crash to 1900 points first..

just now, I browse through my database, shit... so so so many china shares hit to the lowest... simply name a few... sinostar, sunshine, starpharm, ouhua, hongguo, Liheng, capitalreitchina, etc.etc... u name it.. so many counter at the edges, it's like march 20 .... and shortly after a week, all bounce back around 30% average...will that happen next week,  heeeeee...
 
 
ruanlai
    01-Jul-2008 20:48  
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49cents from KIMENG.....no play play.........like any how say......

Even if reaching 75cents.....a lot of ppls will start to jump in liao........70cents......wait long long.....

49cents I think only sell with error 1 lot onli....
 
 
hercules
    01-Jul-2008 20:29  
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count me in...haha $0.78

 

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jackjames
    01-Jul-2008 20:26  
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another daily share buy back today.... 3000 lots @0.82, shiok... SGD 2.46 million dollars... okay la.. tomorrow can buy at 0.78 liao..
 
 
AK_Francis
    01-Jul-2008 19:16  
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seem like 0.78 is on the way leow. acc ? your choice leow.
 
 
elfinchilde
    01-Jul-2008 17:08  
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not all stocks have sustained rebounds....holding and DCAing needs to be practiced with care.

hehe, nickyng must be one happy fella in these market conditions. haha.

the difference is that yzj's NAV is 27.45c with negligible dividends, while KE's NAV is 1.55, with about 4% div yield.  
 
 
sarahlkh
    01-Jul-2008 16:46  
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maybe it might be a good chance to accummulate while others are in selling mode
 
 
nickyng
    01-Jul-2008 15:21  
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49cts from KIMENG?? wah..chun bo?!?? KIMENG's own stock oso got -ve leh...haha...wat a joke?

 



zhuge_liang      ( Date: 01-Jul-2008 14:41) Posted:

"Shipbuilding delivery appears to be behind schedule and recent near-doubling in contract price of iron ore imports from Australia will lead to higher steel costs and impact margins," says Kim Eng Securities, which has technical Sell call; tips next support at $0.49 if $0.78 gives way.

 
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