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baseerahmed
    30-Nov-2009 23:36  
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Gold 16 Nov 07

From the chart above one can see what a precarious position gold is in at the moment, from a technical perspective. It is worth noting the health of the technical indicators. On the MACD the black line has dramatically broken through the red, which gives us a bearish signal. The same has happened for the STO, as that technical indicator also heads south. The Relative Strength Index was severely overbought at one point, and although it has now dropped off to a more reasonable level at around 50, it could still fall further. When one takes a look at the position of gold in relationship to its basic moving averages, the overbought situation becomes even more apparent. Gold prices are a good $25 from the 50 day moving average line and $95 from the 200 day moving average line. It is to be expected that gold should fall back to the 50dma or even the 200dma in this correction. The 50dma appears more likely at current, as the 200dma is nearly $100 away, but remember this is gold and anything is possible.

The US Dollar 16 Nov 07

We have long seen the “80 level” as the last hope of support for the US dollar and in this last July we dubbed the area below 80 as “The Abyss” that the US dollar would fall into after towards the end of the summer. Sure enough the USD broke 80 in early September and it hasn’t looked back. However, although we are extremely bearish on the US dollar, we think that some sort of bear rally is due and as we told our readers last week. Since then the USD has made a bit of a comeback and some technical indicators have turned bullish, such as the MACD that is shown above. Although this rally may be a feeble one, it could be enough to trigger a correction in gold and put a cap on the surging gold stocks. This will present another good buying opportunity for investors and traders to take long positions in gold and gold stocks.

The correction in gold stocks appears to be a step ahead of the actual gold market, with the HUI already dropping back about 10%.

HUI 16 November 07

The STO looks as if it could turn bullish very soon and indeed the correction in gold stocks appears to be significantly ahead of gold itself. In terms of technical support areas, 400 is a key level for the HUI and should it not find support at 400 then 360-370 would be the next stop. However the HUI is not as overbought as gold, its much closer to its moving averages and so a sizeable portion of the correction in gold stocks in probably behind us.

So although gold has further to fall, in our opinion a good buying opportunity in gold stocks is rapidly approaching. We will inform our readers of any opportunities that we see in The Gold Prices Newsletter which you can subscribe to completely free of charge, just click here and enter your email address.

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niuyear
    19-Nov-2009 09:27  
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Tks for posting all GOLD related info.  :)

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The Coming Bubble of 2010 and How to Avoid It



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Even though it has been barely two years since the last investing bubble burst, bringing companies like American International Group (NYSE: AIG), Fannie Mae (NYSE: FNM), and Freddie Mac (NYSE: FRE) to their knees, there's yet another bubble forming. And I believe it will burst in 2010.  

Just ahead, I'll tell you how to completely avoid it -- and present an alternate investment strategy you can adopt instead of following the crowd into this bubble.

But first, a look at this bubble and how it formed.

All that glitters
Congress is spending billions of dollars in stimulus funds to jump-start the economy. It's funded almost entirely with debt. As the national debt level rises, the dollar becomes weaker because currency investors shy away from high-debt countries. This causes higher inflation, which everyone agrees is coming.

But the consensus right now is that the best way to counteract inflation is by investing in gold.

And the consensus is dead wrong!
The problem with gold is that it's a luxury commodity. It has no coupon rate or growth prospects, and it can rise in price only as much as demand for it grows.

It's also difficult to value. Some believe the price of gold per ounce should match the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Others believe it must reflect the price of a top-tier man's suit. Still others believe it must account for global supply and demand.

In spite of this inherent confusion, many prominent investors -- John Hathaway of the Tocqueville Gold Fund, Jim Rogers of Quantum Fund fame, and even hedge fund manager David Einhorn, to name a few -- believe gold can do well right now. What's more shocking: The recent Value Investors Congress was full of lectures on how to profit in precious metals.

Even the best can be fooled
The average investor is blindly following these noteworthy men. That's why more than $12 billion of new money has been invested in the SPDR Gold Trust this year alone. I'm the first to admit that falling prey to other investors' moves is an easy pitfall -- but it can also set you up for disaster.

So what exactly are all these investors -- and their followers -- overlooking? These three facts:

1. When gold demand rises, supply does, too, which brings gold prices back down.
Fortune magazine reports that gold miners invested more than $40 billion into new projects since 2001, and they "are now bearing fruit." Bullion dealer Kitco "predicts that these new mining projects will add 450 tons annually -- or 5% -- "to the gold supply through 2014, enough to move prices lower." The demand also brings out sellers of scrap gold, which adds even more to the supply.

All this while demand for gold has dropped 20% in the past year.

2. Gold is not just dollar-denominated.
Unlike oil, gold is bought and sold in local currencies throughout the world. The Wall Street Journal reports that "gold remains well below last winter's peaks when priced in pounds, euros, yen, or Swiss francs." This indicates that it is solely Americans speculating on gold's rise.

3. Gold is historically a poor investment.
Perhaps the most damning fact is that, from 1833 through 2005, gold and inflation had nearly perfect correlation, according to Forbes. This means that, after taxes, you would have actually lost money in gold.

Warren Buffett once quipped, "It gets dug out of the ground ... Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."

In fact, the only way to make gold rise is to get other investors to buy into the idea -- like a giant Ponzi scheme. And as we know from watching the unraveling of Bernie Madoff's empire, this can't last forever.

Which is why buying gold today is a horrible decision -- and why investors would be better off looking elsewhere.

The absolutely best place to be looking
The best way to invest for inflation is to invest in high-yield dividend companies. Unlike gold, which has no coupon rate and no growth potential, you should be sending your investing dollars to companies that pay a dividend (which often rises) and also have both stable growth potential (which also often rises) and strong assets (in inflationary periods, assets are more valuable since they cost more to replace).


 

 

 
 
 
cheongwee
    18-Nov-2009 20:06  
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XOP of gold 1500!!!...but not before correction.
 
 
cheongwee
    18-Nov-2009 20:04  
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To profit much more, buy stock, stock will soar higher than physical, remember this is mania, not truly rally base on demand.
 

 
cheongwee
    18-Nov-2009 19:58  
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Currently rally is base on CB of india and Sri lanka buying. But how much can they buy??

I am selling at close to 1200..the first time ever i turn seller...buy back when 900 to 950
 
 
cheongwee
    18-Nov-2009 19:53  
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Pls read without emotion. I do disagree on some point, but agree generally....vested heavy.

 

Why Gold Could Drop $200



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With gold hitting $1,000 per ounce today, many believe that the sky's the limit for the yellow metal. If you're thinking about buying gold now, though, you need to understand the risks involved.

Us vs. them
It's hard to find objective analysis on gold. Many die-hard "gold bugs" seem to feel vindicated whenever gold prices rise, while decrying the markets as irrational when prices fall. Meanwhile, market investors often mock gold bugs for putting so much faith in the metal, arguing that other investments give better potential for both income and growth. As one who understands both sides of the argument, I'm going to try to approach gold from an objective point of view.

Gold has traditionally been a hedge against inflation. In my opinion, though, we currently have stronger deflationary pressures in the economy. While deflation could result in a rally in Treasury bonds and the U.S. dollar, it would also likely bring a fall in commodity prices. Gold bullion could see its price fall substantially from current levels.

You cannot print demand
Much has been said lately that "printing" by the Federal Reserve and other central banks will result in above-average inflation. This is absolutely true, but the key is when. I don't believe that inflation will show up at any point in 2009, and it very well may not show up in 2010 either, given the collapse of securitization markets and the resulting decline in credit available in the U.S. economy.

At the same time, overall demand for gold hit a six-year low, according to the World Gold Council. In the second quarter, global consumption fell 8.6% to 719.5 metric tons compared to 2008, to the lowest level since the first quarter of 2003. Falling demand for jewelry (down 22%) and electronics manufacturers (down 26%) was partially offset by rising demand from gold investors (up 46%).

As you can see, even enthusiastic gold bulls cannot push the market higher if other sources of demand are falling. It is true that central banks were net buyers for the first time since 2000, which should be the main driver of gold bullion in the future. But if the current economic stabilization turns out to be just an inventory rebuilding cycle, and the economy weakens again in the fourth quarter or in early 2010, gold demand is likely to stay suppressed. The dollar will likely rally again and so will Treasury bonds -- no matter how much the investment public hates bonds at present.

Why $200?
To get a sense of how big a correction might be, let's take a look at gold's trading range in recent years.

Year

High

Low

Range $

Range as % of High Price



2009


1007.7


801.5


206.2


20.5%


2008


1033.9


681.0


352.9


34.1%


2007


848.0


603.0


245.0


28.9%


2006


730.4


503.8


226.6


31.0%


2005


541.0


410.4


130.6


24.1%


2004


456.9


371.3


85.6


18.7%


2003


418.0


322.1


95.9


22.9%


2002


350.5


276.7


73.8


21.1%


2001


294.0


255.0


39.0


13.3%


 
    Average

23.8%


Sources: Thomson Reuters, author calculations.

With the average drop between a yearly high and low of about 23.8%, a drop from current prices around $1,000 per ounce down to $800 would be well within historical norms. Such a $200 drop wouldn't necessarily spell the end of the longer-term bull market in gold, but rather would constitute a correction.

A $200 decline = a buying opportunity
If gold does decline by $200 per ounce, I believe it will present a buying opportunity -- but only for the right investments. In my years of investing, I've too frequently seen investors chase the worst kind of stocks: small, unprofitable miners with only a nebulous promise to produce gold some day. Such small mining stocks tend to decline at a much faster pace during corrections. I've seen many 70%-80% declines in small gold mining stocks over the years. High-profile examples in past years include Coeur d'Alene (NYSE: CDE) and DRDGOLD (Nasdaq: DROOY), both of which failed to advance over long periods despite big run-ups in silver and gold, respectively. Both issued a lot of stock without producing the profits they promised and declined well under a dollar, before being forced to do reverse splits.

 
 
 
niuyear
    18-Nov-2009 15:13  
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The beauty of gold..  Think time to sell some before US$ bounce back.

cheongwee      ( Date: 02-Jun-2009 16:13) Posted:



i thk tonite gold may set up a bull trp..for 1000,,,and this time it may stay awhile at 1000...before it correct to 780 to 800..

 
 
ozone2002
    12-Nov-2009 14:32  
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UOB raffles branch sells gold.

wat u want to buy is physical..and not paper gold.

but u have to pay GST!.. so u lose 7% already when u buy gold in SG.

 



fruitty      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 00:46) Posted:

Hi ozone, how to buy gold?

ozone2002      ( Date: 10-Nov-2009 22:40) Posted:



well i don't know whether pple are oblivious or not aware of the implications tat will arise from the

massive printing of funny money (currency).

Inflation is going to hit the world, we have to protect our wealth by buyin hard assets, like commodities

such as gold.

Gold can't be printed, it has to be mined and it's scarce. It holds value unlike funny money which makes

u laugh. Protect urself with gold, every dip is a golden opportunity to accumulate some.


 

 
niuyear
    12-Nov-2009 14:08  
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Most central banks outside of  US and Europe have low gold reserve and now these Asia central banks, especially Sri Lanka kept buying gold recently.  Isnt it they are paying much higher price than 10 or 20 yrs ago?  Hope asia are not big sucker for this gold rally.  
 
 
niuyear
    11-Nov-2009 10:58  
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MAS intervenes in forex market to slow the singapore dollar's rise and it is said to continue to do so as necessary.  Is it possible for GLD to reach its height of 1500 as speculated is much waited to be seen. 

niuyear      ( Date: 06-Nov-2009 17:31) Posted:

Let it pierced through 1,100 first, then, see how.... :)

 
 
fruitty
    11-Nov-2009 00:46  
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Hi ozone, how to buy gold?

ozone2002      ( Date: 10-Nov-2009 22:40) Posted:



well i don't know whether pple are oblivious or not aware of the implications tat will arise from the

massive printing of funny money (currency).

Inflation is going to hit the world, we have to protect our wealth by buyin hard assets, like commodities

such as gold.

Gold can't be printed, it has to be mined and it's scarce. It holds value unlike funny money which makes

u laugh. Protect urself with gold, every dip is a golden opportunity to accumulate some.

 
 
mario1
    11-Nov-2009 00:37  
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What about Goldshares ETF? This is actually paper gold.. which is also  "printable"..Seems like only the REAL physical gold is safe..But with such paper gold, price is also subjectable to manipulation..

ozone2002      ( Date: 10-Nov-2009 22:40) Posted:



well i don't know whether pple are oblivious or not aware of the implications tat will arise from the

massive printing of funny money (currency).

Inflation is going to hit the world, we have to protect our wealth by buyin hard assets, like commodities

such as gold.

Gold can't be printed, it has to be mined and it's scarce. It holds value unlike funny money which makes

u laugh. Protect urself with gold, every dip is a golden opportunity to accumulate some.

 
 
ozone2002
    10-Nov-2009 22:40  
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well i don't know whether pple are oblivious or not aware of the implications tat will arise from the

massive printing of funny money (currency).

Inflation is going to hit the world, we have to protect our wealth by buyin hard assets, like commodities

such as gold.

Gold can't be printed, it has to be mined and it's scarce. It holds value unlike funny money which makes

u laugh. Protect urself with gold, every dip is a golden opportunity to accumulate some.
 

 
tusima
    10-Nov-2009 19:22  
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If another central banker buys gold, it will skyrocket again.

Who will be the next banker to buy gold? China? Taiwan? S Korea? Japan?

 



ozone2002      ( Date: 08-Nov-2009 12:35) Posted:



past $1,100!

definitely buyin more when it dips..

can't beat the central banks?.. join em :)

 
 
ozone2002
    08-Nov-2009 12:35  
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past $1,100!

definitely buyin more when it dips..

can't beat the central banks?.. join em :)
 
 
niuyear
    06-Nov-2009 17:31  
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Let it pierced through 1,100 first, then, see how.... :)
 
 
iPunter
    06-Nov-2009 17:29  
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That strategy does not apply to gold...

Whereas stocks can be only valueless paper, 

Gold is a solid asset in a financial collapse...

Imagine if China were to buy up all the gold in the world in a desperate situation...

Prices may just boomz! vertically up unabated... Smiley
 
 
soularis
    06-Nov-2009 17:22  
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usually when so many are so certain about something, its time to sell the asset :P

 

gold at usd800 in 3 months 
 
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