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Simpsons
    08-Oct-2013 15:00  
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Got new sifus in the thread..maybe should reorg the management team..lol..
 
 
LeNub84
    08-Oct-2013 14:57  
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Bro, got profit good liao.. i also sold YHM at 0.051... but im in again..

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 14:47) Posted:

lol......aiyoh both took profit too early............lol

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:30) Posted:

lol......FYI I took profit amplefield 0.05 and YHM 0.051.........make 3bids and 2 bids..........HUAT AH.........lol


 
 
sjZheng
    08-Oct-2013 14:57  
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THANKS!

zedteo      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 13:38) Posted:

5IB (Albedo)
 
    SGX   
 
 
LastChangeVolumeHighLowSectorCcyMktOff CodeFeed CodeCodeName% ChangeBid VolumeBidAskAsk Volume
0.041+0.011301,438,0000.0450.034COMMSGDSGX5IB5IB_R5IBAlbedo+36.75,556,0000.0410.0423,420,000
 
BidBid VolUn Bid VolAskAsk VolUn Ask Vol
0.0415,556,000--0.0423,420,000--
0.0408,298,000--0.0437,357,000--
0.03911,432,000--0.04413,811,000--
0.0389,901,000--0.04513,054,000--
0.0373,510,000--0.04611,110,000--
0.0364,985,000--0.0477,772,000--
0.0356,687,000--0.0485,740,000--
0.0348,970,000--0.0494,742,000--
0.0334,833,000--0.0505,950,000--
0.0329,041,000--0.0512,072,000--
0.0311,401,000--0.0522,400,000--
0.03012,447,000--0.053592,000--
0.0292,582,000--0.0541,240,000--
0.0281,270,000--0.055772,000--
0.0271,095,000--0.0561,500,000--
0.026535,000--0.057475,000--
0.0252,568,000--0.0586,100,000--
0.024570,000--0.059100,000--
0.0231,335,000--0.0601,900,000--
0.0222,055,000--0.0611,080,000--


sjZheng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 13:02) Posted:

thanks it fine :)


 

 
ace333
    08-Oct-2013 14:47  
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lol......aiyoh both took profit too early............lol

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:30) Posted:

lol......FYI I took profit amplefield 0.05 and YHM 0.051.........make 3bids and 2 bids..........HUAT AH.........lol

halleluyah      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:15) Posted:

Follow u 300lots.....hope boh salah one.....trust in u.....lol


 
 
muifan
    08-Oct-2013 14:13  
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Mirach might have another run...

30c will break and shortist at 30c will be caught.... 
 
 
Stockcham
    08-Oct-2013 13:44  
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Thanks Bro ST for sharing man! Learn something from you today. There are many kind of trading strategies. It's good to have people like you or Bro SFGuyRulez to share your experience. I think some bros & sis were thinking of picking up some good counters. You may want to give some advice to them which counters they can look out for. I'm not good in this fundamental thing so can't help much.

Good Luck! Huat ah!

star-trader      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 12:47) Posted:



SC

Thanks for your sharing.

Market correction can be viewed in different period.

- Minor Correction (short curve with rebound on the STI chart)
Usually happens when traders want to to short term profits or the technical chart showing reversal signal.

- Mild Correction: (bigger short curve with rebound on the STI chart)
Sometimes can due to global events where STI can drop more 100 points in a short period of time

- Major Correction: (dip down of the STI chart) eg: mid-2007 to beginning of 2009)
No hope in the market where each single day the Low and lower Support is broken and in a very short time frame. When this happens, I won't even want to trade and stay still aside even though some people take this opportunity to do shorting. But I am a person who hate shorting even though the technical indicator showing otherwise.. :) and can earn money out of it.. Too bad..

2 examples I would like to give was:

CDL Htrust, years back, once bought at 1.97 due to wrong calculation,  and decided not to implement the 7% cut loss as seen potential in the stock, with my support and resistance holding it, I managed to scrap through few times riding on the mini wave and back to even more than 2 dollars, closed at 2.11.
But I sold of the 1.97 batch at 2.00  instead , and all together with the dividend I accumulated during the run-up and my short term trades during the mini wave, I made the profit out of it..

SGX, at 6.80, dropped further below and decided to keep it and played the same thing, ride the mini wave to get back to the price as usual, more than the price I got stucked.

So, eventually the stocks with growth value, and together with the right trading indicators will help you to earn many times out of it, BUT remember
this doesn't happen during the MAJOR Correction,

MAJOR correction means, Support levels broken many times without any indicator of rebound.. That will be the time I will just sit back and relax..

All the best.

Star-Trader

 

 

Stockcham      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 08:02) Posted:



Good morning everyone! Glad to see you all here again.

Market go up and down, thus winning and losing is part and parcel of the game. Don't be disheartened. In this kind of market, almost all will lose money whether contra or pick up...the difference is lose more or less only. But of cause when one lose money, must learn something from the losses else the money loss is not worth it. Always play within your mean and when market seems like turning against us, it is be safer to trim down our holdings or get out. To cut loss losing 10 pips may be heart pain, but if you don'tt cut and go through the current downside, it will not only heart pain but more pressure and sleepless night. I cut without thinking too much because I have gone through these and I know if I don't cut, my risk is very high. So for now, if you have cut and loss, don't take it too hard. Money can make back one. Now the risk go to those who pick up shares. Some may say pick up shares only paper loss but it is also a real loss. At the moment,  no one knows whether we are in for a short or long correction. But if we are in a long correction, the hardest hit one are those that pick up shares. Sometimes long correction can last for a few years. You may buy a counter with good fundamental but make sure this counter continue to perform during the bear period or else it may not go back to your price when market recovers. In a bull market, there will be popular counters being pushed up based on many reasons including good fundamental or potential. But after going through the bear market and come the next bull, some of these so called popular counters are no more popular because BBs  or Funds  have change their target.  For me, I only believe in pick up shares during bear market but not during bull market. If want to hold, I think the best is to buy and hold when BBs is playing the counter. After they play for 1-2 months and run, then that is the time you sell. Of course we cannot just chiong in any counters BBs buy. Counters that chiong up too fast is the most risky one.

So what can we learn from the Asiasons, Blumont and Liongold?. A few things we can learn from here. First, when they chiong up too high especially in a short period of time, it is too risky to touch because if it can go up so fast, it will also come down fast.  Second, when peoples starts to anyhow throw, it is safe to follow them to throw because there must be problem else it won't drop like that. For me, I won t even call my broker to check first in this kind of situation because by the time he expplain to me, it will likely drop a lot more. Third, in this kind of drop high chance got problem one, so don't long or short because the chance of a halt is very high.

In this kind of market, many will not want to look at the market. But I want to say if you don't look, you will not know how a market correct. No need to keep monitoring the market but at least don't loss touch of it. You can see the market started from smaller drop and then serious drop(remember I said in my previous posting that the serious one haven't come). Now look at intraday trading on Friday and yesterday. The market drop a lot in the morning and then recover. In the afternoon it drop again. If you know this, then you will know  is the best time to sell if you miss the first selling time. Not only that, you will not go in and bargain hunt during the temporary recovery. If want to go in during recovery, then  must come out fast.

Ok, that's what I can share as for now. Time to start work.

Good luck all!


 

 
zedteo
    08-Oct-2013 13:38  
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5IB (Albedo)
 
    SGX   
 
 
LastChangeVolumeHighLowSectorCcyMktOff CodeFeed CodeCodeName% ChangeBid VolumeBidAskAsk Volume
0.041+0.011301,438,0000.0450.034COMMSGDSGX5IB5IB_R5IBAlbedo+36.75,556,0000.0410.0423,420,000
 
BidBid VolUn Bid VolAskAsk VolUn Ask Vol
0.0415,556,000--0.0423,420,000--
0.0408,298,000--0.0437,357,000--
0.03911,432,000--0.04413,811,000--
0.0389,901,000--0.04513,054,000--
0.0373,510,000--0.04611,110,000--
0.0364,985,000--0.0477,772,000--
0.0356,687,000--0.0485,740,000--
0.0348,970,000--0.0494,742,000--
0.0334,833,000--0.0505,950,000--
0.0329,041,000--0.0512,072,000--
0.0311,401,000--0.0522,400,000--
0.03012,447,000--0.053592,000--
0.0292,582,000--0.0541,240,000--
0.0281,270,000--0.055772,000--
0.0271,095,000--0.0561,500,000--
0.026535,000--0.057475,000--
0.0252,568,000--0.0586,100,000--
0.024570,000--0.059100,000--
0.0231,335,000--0.0601,900,000--
0.0222,055,000--0.0611,080,000--


sjZheng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 13:02) Posted:

thanks it fine :)

Gold916      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 12:52) Posted:

Sorry
I outside wor
Cannot help u today


 
 
sjZheng
    08-Oct-2013 13:02  
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thanks it fine :)

Gold916      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 12:52) Posted:

Sorry
I outside wor
Cannot help u today

sjZheng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:17) Posted:

Can pls help to post Albedo MD?


 
 
Gold916
    08-Oct-2013 12:52  
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Sorry
I outside wor
Cannot help u today

sjZheng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:17) Posted:

Can pls help to post Albedo MD?

 
 
star-trader
    08-Oct-2013 12:52  
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Forgotten to mention  one thing, 1 particular stock I kept throughout the  MAJOR correction is Capital Mall.. :)

I don't know why, maybe I have been keeping this for very very long, got some feel for it together with the dividend that have been given out.

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star-trader
    08-Oct-2013 12:47  
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SC

Thanks for your sharing.

Market correction can be viewed in different period.

- Minor Correction (short curve with rebound on the STI chart)
Usually happens when traders want to to short term profits or the technical chart showing reversal signal.

- Mild Correction: (bigger short curve with rebound on the STI chart)
Sometimes can due to global events where STI can drop more 100 points in a short period of time

- Major Correction: (dip down of the STI chart) eg: mid-2007 to beginning of 2009)
No hope in the market where each single day the Low and lower Support is broken and in a very short time frame. When this happens, I won't even want to trade and stay still aside even though some people take this opportunity to do shorting. But I am a person who hate shorting even though the technical indicator showing otherwise.. :) and can earn money out of it.. Too bad..

2 examples I would like to give was:

CDL Htrust, years back, once bought at 1.97 due to wrong calculation,  and decided not to implement the 7% cut loss as seen potential in the stock, with my support and resistance holding it, I managed to scrap through few times riding on the mini wave and back to even more than 2 dollars, closed at 2.11.
But I sold of the 1.97 batch at 2.00  instead , and all together with the dividend I accumulated during the run-up and my short term trades during the mini wave, I made the profit out of it..

SGX, at 6.80, dropped further below and decided to keep it and played the same thing, ride the mini wave to get back to the price as usual, more than the price I got stucked.

So, eventually the stocks with growth value, and together with the right trading indicators will help you to earn many times out of it, BUT remember
this doesn't happen during the MAJOR Correction,

MAJOR correction means, Support levels broken many times without any indicator of rebound.. That will be the time I will just sit back and relax..

All the best.

Star-Trader

 

 

Stockcham      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 08:02) Posted:



Good morning everyone! Glad to see you all here again.

Market go up and down, thus winning and losing is part and parcel of the game. Don't be disheartened. In this kind of market, almost all will lose money whether contra or pick up...the difference is lose more or less only. But of cause when one lose money, must learn something from the losses else the money loss is not worth it. Always play within your mean and when market seems like turning against us, it is be safer to trim down our holdings or get out. To cut loss losing 10 pips may be heart pain, but if you don'tt cut and go through the current downside, it will not only heart pain but more pressure and sleepless night. I cut without thinking too much because I have gone through these and I know if I don't cut, my risk is very high. So for now, if you have cut and loss, don't take it too hard. Money can make back one. Now the risk go to those who pick up shares. Some may say pick up shares only paper loss but it is also a real loss. At the moment,  no one knows whether we are in for a short or long correction. But if we are in a long correction, the hardest hit one are those that pick up shares. Sometimes long correction can last for a few years. You may buy a counter with good fundamental but make sure this counter continue to perform during the bear period or else it may not go back to your price when market recovers. In a bull market, there will be popular counters being pushed up based on many reasons including good fundamental or potential. But after going through the bear market and come the next bull, some of these so called popular counters are no more popular because BBs  or Funds  have change their target.  For me, I only believe in pick up shares during bear market but not during bull market. If want to hold, I think the best is to buy and hold when BBs is playing the counter. After they play for 1-2 months and run, then that is the time you sell. Of course we cannot just chiong in any counters BBs buy. Counters that chiong up too fast is the most risky one.

So what can we learn from the Asiasons, Blumont and Liongold?. A few things we can learn from here. First, when they chiong up too high especially in a short period of time, it is too risky to touch because if it can go up so fast, it will also come down fast.  Second, when peoples starts to anyhow throw, it is safe to follow them to throw because there must be problem else it won't drop like that. For me, I won t even call my broker to check first in this kind of situation because by the time he expplain to me, it will likely drop a lot more. Third, in this kind of drop high chance got problem one, so don't long or short because the chance of a halt is very high.

In this kind of market, many will not want to look at the market. But I want to say if you don't look, you will not know how a market correct. No need to keep monitoring the market but at least don't loss touch of it. You can see the market started from smaller drop and then serious drop(remember I said in my previous posting that the serious one haven't come). Now look at intraday trading on Friday and yesterday. The market drop a lot in the morning and then recover. In the afternoon it drop again. If you know this, then you will know  is the best time to sell if you miss the first selling time. Not only that, you will not go in and bargain hunt during the temporary recovery. If want to go in during recovery, then  must come out fast.

Ok, that's what I can share as for now. Time to start work.

Good luck all!

 
 
ace333
    08-Oct-2013 11:59  
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lol.......go back to the old favourites.........if didn't go up too much or strong can buy first..........I took profits for some in the morning le..........left with METECH 0.023 and vallianzz 0.062

Stockcham      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:52) Posted:

Ok Bro! Will monitor! Huat ah!

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:44) Posted:

bro still got time to screen thru..........my opinion aftennon still got kopi$$$$ to be made.........lol...............bad mkt just makekopi$$$$ first........when the dust clear then got big $$$$$  flow in......huat ah.......lo


 
 
Stockcham
    08-Oct-2013 11:52  
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Ok Bro! Will monitor! Huat ah!

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:44) Posted:

bro still got time to screen thru..........my opinion aftennon still got kopi$$$$ to be made.........lol...............bad mkt just makekopi$$$$ first........when the dust clear then got big $$$$$  flow in......huat ah.......lol

Stockcham      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:18) Posted:

Congrats Bro! I didn't buy any cos I boh eng. If buy must sit there and see, then no need to work liao....lol. Huat ah


 
 
ace333
    08-Oct-2013 11:44  
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bro still got time to screen thru..........my opinion aftennon still got kopi$$$$ to be made.........lol...............bad mkt just makekopi$$$$ first........when the dust clear then got big $$$$$  flow in......huat ah.......lol

Stockcham      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:18) Posted:

Congrats Bro! I didn't buy any cos I boh eng. If buy must sit there and see, then no need to work liao....lol. Huat ah!

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:30) Posted:

lol......FYI I took profit amplefield 0.05 and YHM 0.051.........make 3bids and 2 bids..........HUAT AH.........lol


 
 
Stockcham
    08-Oct-2013 11:27  
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Bro, you are one  of them that didn't kena (make Viking lose KS...covered) and the rest makes money. Bro ace333 and you have the most bullets. If you are not sifu then who is sifu?. Anyway, no sifu here lah. We help each other. Huat ah!

joseeng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:04) Posted:



sis, am no sifu la, only bro SC and bro ace deserves such title.....lol

imho, oakwell upside limited cos tmrw t+5 liao, i will wait till after tmrw....anyway just my 2c......lol


Falcon      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:54) Posted:

Must page for Sifu Joseeng on Oakwell


 

 
Stockcham
    08-Oct-2013 11:18  
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Congrats Bro! I didn't buy any cos I boh eng. If buy must sit there and see, then no need to work liao....lol. Huat ah!

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:30) Posted:

lol......FYI I took profit amplefield 0.05 and YHM 0.051.........make 3bids and 2 bids..........HUAT AH.........lol

halleluyah      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:15) Posted:

Follow u 300lots.....hope boh salah one.....trust in u.....lol


 
 
sjZheng
    08-Oct-2013 11:17  
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Can pls help to post Albedo MD?
 
 
wendel
    08-Oct-2013 11:13  
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thx bro joseeng...too late liao...wish I huat!!!

joseeng      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:04) Posted:



sis, am no sifu la, only bro SC and bro ace deserves such title.....lol

imho, oakwell upside limited cos tmrw t+5 liao, i will wait till after tmrw....anyway just my 2c......lol


Falcon      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:54) Posted:

Must page for Sifu Joseeng on Oakwell


 
 
joseeng
    08-Oct-2013 11:12  
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bro, not vested yet....only monitoring mkt......rex maybe see 875 got chance bo.....geo no comment cos i have not been monitoring this.....cheers


anyway dun touch asiaphos, think this one gg down......my 2c


novice_trader      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:55) Posted:

Bro Joseeng, u not vested today??? T-rex looks good... Also any advice in GEO???

 
 
expertinvestor
    08-Oct-2013 11:06  
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Haha was too slow... Nvm... Buy for long term...

ace333      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 11:01) Posted:

lol........after I bought 0.062 kenna throw down 0.061 u didn't buy?

expertinvestor      ( Date: 08-Oct-2013 10:58) Posted:

Into vallianz at $0.063


 
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