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leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 23:48) Posted:
I encourage all to go to the SGM and hear what David has to say. He ought to hv something up his sleeves..its just that we dont know what it is...we may have an inkling but we are not sure. So please go, ask questions..query him gau gau and make life difficult as he has made life difficult for some of us with this recent announcement.
 
Share7 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 22:49) Posted:
Thanks leeeta. Lately forum has been very negative. Although I understand the negative moves of share price due to share consolidation, apart from past precedence from other counters, no one can be certain how HK share price will behave prior and post consolidation. 1) Will there be a rebound post 3rd Plenary outcome and 1Q? 2) Will share price set the benchmark prior to consolidation? 3) Will there be project announcement prior to consolidation? I wonder whether David and his team really don't know the trading pattern of other consolidated counters, ill-adviced or intentional? If ill advised, then bo pian, better run as he is not as smart as we would ascribe to him. If intentional, then what is up their sleeves to take such risk to share price knowing it will pull back? The story will unfold and hopefully we will see light at the end of the tunnel. Although HK has moved up from 4c, somehow the last few weeks had damaged the upward momentum and deflate the optimism in this forum. Waiting for the light to shine soon. CE.  |
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I encourage all to go to the SGM and hear what David has to say. He ought to hv something up his sleeves..its just that we dont know what it is...we may have an inkling but we are not sure. So please go, ask questions..query him gau gau and make life difficult as he has made life difficult for some of us with this recent announcement.
 
Share7 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 22:49) Posted:
Thanks leeeta. Lately forum has been very negative. Although I understand the negative moves of share price due to share consolidation, apart from past precedence from other counters, no one can be certain how HK share price will behave prior and post consolidation. 1) Will there be a rebound post 3rd Plenary outcome and 1Q? 2) Will share price set the benchmark prior to consolidation? 3) Will there be project announcement prior to consolidation? I wonder whether David and his team really don't know the trading pattern of other consolidated counters, ill-adviced or intentional? If ill advised, then bo pian, better run as he is not as smart as we would ascribe to him. If intentional, then what is up their sleeves to take such risk to share price knowing it will pull back? The story will unfold and hopefully we will see light at the end of the tunnel. Although HK has moved up from 4c, somehow the last few weeks had damaged the upward momentum and deflate the optimism in this forum. Waiting for the light to shine soon. CE.  |
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Thanks leeeta. Lately forum has been very negative. Although I understand the negative moves of share price due to share consolidation, apart from past precedence from other counters, no one can be certain how HK share price will behave prior and post consolidation. 1) Will there be a rebound post 3rd Plenary outcome and 1Q? 2) Will share price set the benchmark prior to consolidation? 3) Will there be project announcement prior to consolidation? I wonder whether David and his team really don't know the trading pattern of other consolidated counters, ill-adviced or intentional? If ill advised, then bo pian, better run as he is not as smart as we would ascribe to him. If intentional, then what is up their sleeves to take such risk to share price knowing it will pull back? The story will unfold and hopefully we will see light at the end of the tunnel. Although HK has moved up from 4c, somehow the last few weeks had damaged the upward momentum and deflate the optimism in this forum. Waiting for the light to shine soon. CE. 
The premier Li Keqiang has promised to cut the state?s role in the economy, rejuvenate the financial and fiscal systems and overhaul land and household registration rules to sustain economic growth. - " encourage more privately held companies like HK to thrive." The scope and aggressiveness of the reform plan will be ?unprecedented? and the impact on all aspects of the economy and society will be ?profound?, said Yu Zhengsheng, the chairman of the Chinese people?s political consultative congress.
?The depth and strength of the reforms will be unprecedented and will promote profound changes in every area of the economy and society,? said Mr Yu.
China?s economy is in a gradual rebalancing phase, according to the government, and Beijing has repeatedly said it would accept slower growth as it tries to wean the country off dependence on investment and exports in favour of domestic consumption.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The bank reckons the three main reform issues will be environmental conservation, opening-up the economy and urbanisation. In addition, the new government will also probably reiterate the importance of reform in the government administration (deregulation), financial system (liberalisation), and fiscal-tax system, which would serve to gradually remove the institutional obstacles to other necessary reforms.
?In addition, we think it is possible that the new leaders would accelerate the release of follow-up implementation measures of the reform right after the third plenum to strengthen the public?s confidence in reforms,? Macquarie said.
?We suggest investors take a position in the potential beneficiaries in advance. - HINT HINT
GDP is set to grow 7.6 per cent this year, beating the government?s 7.5 per cent target, before losing some steam next year as Beijing forges ahead with structural reforms, a Reuters poll of economists showed recently. While an expansion of 7.6 per cent this year would be the weakest in 24 years, it would still be comfortably above the government?s 7 per cent forecast.
?Data for September suggest that momentum had started to fade at the end of the third quarter,? Mark Williams of Capital Economics wrote in a research note.
?Growth in industrial production edged down, with the slowdown particularly acute in energy intensive sectors and among state-owned firms, which were the major drivers of the summer rebound. Cement output, a gauge of construction activity, has also weakened recently.
?This is consistent with evidence that infrastructure spending and investment by state-owned firms cooled last month.?
 
haha..thats a nice one. Did not know David can give heads... lol. I would not try. lol.
wxp8838 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:37) Posted:
Here needs some positive voice . I will go to SGM this time, heard Divid is good at blow job, check out why he blew the price down.
leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:26) Posted:
have been busy travelling. now back..and waiting to have a go at David at the SGM. : |
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ccx bro, im with you. Mine no ST or LT all stuckT. Bought from 7.2 hold till now. Same as mirach bought high hold till low, looks like tml going even lower but no choice le. Going to throw them aside & cut my spending. What to do, They dont let me have a fat xmas & new year so just be it lor. No turkey still got chicken satay to eat & tong until next year see how.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 17:06) Posted:
At this rate tomorrow can see 5.9cts already. Knn..still holding on to my ST contra 6.4cts too! Lose $$$ :'( |
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Here needs some positive voice . I will go to SGM this time, heard Divid is good at blow job, check out why he blew the price down.
leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:26) Posted:
have been busy travelling. now back..and waiting to have a go at David at the SGM. :)
wxp8838 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:23) Posted:
It's good to see you again |
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Got anything to say, come out and talk. Don't dirty this thread with your vuglarities.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:34) Posted:
Knn.. I did not lose money on Sky One and I did not lose money on IPCO either. Innopac is the only losing enterprise that I am still holding. I just found your posts and buy calls humorous that is all. Go read what I wrote again. And I do not own the trio either. You must have mistaken me for someone else. If you notice when you click on my nick, most of my posting activity is situated here. Rarely do I venture to other threads. Go read your Innopac call and tell me if that isn't funny. There is no need to continue this argument. I have no time for this.
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:26) Posted:
My sincere apology to the rest, didn't mean to post nonsense here. But whenever this person loses money, he  just like to post some sacrastic remarks on our walls.  So far I have been putting him up in IPCO and Skyone forum. Now  no worries we will take  this somewhere else. 
 
So where do you proposed? Start a thread and let me know. Don't just hide here |
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Knn.. I did not lose money on Sky One and I did not lose money on IPCO either. Innopac is the only losing enterprise that I am still holding. I just found your posts and buy calls humorous that is all. Go read what I wrote again. And I do not own the trio either. You must have mistaken me for someone else. If you notice when you click on my nick, most of my posting activity is situated here. Rarely do I venture to other threads. Go read your Innopac call and tell me if that isn't funny. There is no need to continue this argument. I have no time for this.
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:26) Posted:
My sincere apology to the rest, didn't mean to post nonsense here. But whenever this person loses money, he  just like to post some sacrastic remarks on our walls.  So far I have been putting him up in IPCO and Skyone forum. Now  no worries we will take  this somewhere else. 
 
So where do you proposed? Start a thread and let me know. Don't just hide here.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:11) Posted:
I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol |
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no worries...will join you soon at the LG thread. Letting the px settle first...good chance to get it between 18-19 soon hopefully. 
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:26) Posted:
My sincere apology to the rest, didn't mean to post nonsense here. But whenever this person loses money, he  just like to post some sacrastic remarks on our walls.  So far I have been putting him up in IPCO and Skyone forum. Now  no worries we will take  this somewhere else. 
 
So where do you proposed? Start a thread and let me know. Don't just hide here.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:11) Posted:
I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol |
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My sincere apology to the rest, didn't mean to post nonsense here. But whenever this person loses money, he  just like to post some sacrastic remarks on our walls.  So far I have been putting him up in IPCO and Skyone forum. Now  no worries we will take  this somewhere else. 
 
So where do you proposed? Start a thread and let me know. Don't just hide here.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:11) Posted:
I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:05) Posted:
BTW correct direction. Wind only claimed innopac will up, but never said anything about the trio- go verify my post before you comment.
How? An eye for an eye, you like or not?  If not, then think before you comment!
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have been busy travelling. now back..and waiting to have a go at David at the SGM. :)
wxp8838 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:23) Posted:
It's good to see you again
leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:16) Posted:
yup..take ur fight elsewhere bro.. thx |
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It's good to see you again
leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:16) Posted:
yup..take ur fight elsewhere bro.. thx.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:11) Posted:
I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol |
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yup..take ur fight elsewhere bro.. thx.
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:11) Posted:
I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:05) Posted:
BTW correct direction. Wind only claimed innopac will up, but never said anything about the trio- go verify my post before you comment.
How? An eye for an eye, you like or not?  If not, then think before you comment!
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I suspect this consolidation exercise could be an attempt to shake out the smaller short-term players.
Judging from the sentiments, quite a number of them could have already sold when news of the consolidation broke.
another piece of good news for HK 
http://news.h2o-china.com/html/2013/11/122531_1.shtml 
leeeta ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:03) Posted:
I must admit that these are trying times for those with a LT view. While the FA is still solid, the current short term pricing has been screwed up big time by none other than David himself. You bet, he is going to get all mud and sticks thrown at him at the SGM. If he wants to push his consolidation exercise through, he better have got a super good business plan. On top of that he has to show us how he will increase shareholder value through this consolidation exercise.   I want to remind David that there are those who were hurt badly from the highs of 1.30+ and stayed on. I know some of them from the AGM and David knows who they are too...and these guys are hoping that the px will one day allow them to make back what they have lost and hopefully more.   The rights 3 yrs ago helped averaged their cost but still their averages are way too high...and in the last two AGMs, these are the ones who fought against consolidation and there was agreement not to proceed in that path. I dont know how David is going to look at these guys in the eyes in the next SGM if he does not have a good plan...otherwise David will be labelled a liar. This thing is sticking out like a sore thumb and I can tell you that the SGM is not going to be pretty. meanwhile   FA is still very good.
So question is ..Does he has a super good plan? Will it be followed with a share split 2 to 3 yrs later?
Side news :
1. China yuan will continue its rise and by 2020..a 30% against USD is expected...which means higher px for HK in the coming yrs only on fx conversion
2. China top guns are meeting this week..so expect good news in the area of urbanization, water and air pollution control this week.
 
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I am already out of skyone lol. Though your chart was v amusing. Yea, I trade paper. All those CDP statements I get are on paper. ) those numbers I have to erase from paper also occur real time from my bank account. Very sad..and Innopac wind is not wind..its breeze/hot air. Come on..don't lower the standards of this thread. Lets go somewhere else lol
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 18:05) Posted:
BTW correct direction. Wind only claimed innopac will up, but never said anything about the trio- go verify my post before you comment.
How? An eye for an eye, you like or not?  If not, then think before you comment!
 
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 17:47) Posted:
Eh, go back talk to your wind. Ask them why the trio and their ally Innopac still down there. All except Innopac closed at the low you know.. They blow wrong direction leh..lo |
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BTW correct direction. Wind only claimed innopac will up, but never said anything about the trio- go verify my post before you comment.
How? An eye for an eye, you like or not?  If not, then think before you comment!
 
cccx123 ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 17:47) Posted:
Eh, go back talk to your wind. Ask them why the trio and their ally Innopac still down there. All except Innopac closed at the low you know.. They blow wrong direction leh..lol
Rosesyrup ( Date: 11-Nov-2013 17:38) Posted:
Cut loss lol...paper trading only what. Why worry so much? ...Jk j |
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I must admit that these are trying times for those with a LT view. While the FA is still solid, the current short term pricing has been screwed up big time by none other than David himself. You bet, he is going to get all mud and sticks thrown at him at the SGM. If he wants to push his consolidation exercise through, he better have got a super good business plan. On top of that he has to show us how he will increase shareholder value through this consolidation exercise.   I want to remind David that there are those who were hurt badly from the highs of 1.30+ and stayed on. I know some of them from the AGM and David knows who they are too...and these guys are hoping that the px will one day allow them to make back what they have lost and hopefully more.   The rights 3 yrs ago helped averaged their cost but still their averages are way too high...and in the last two AGMs, these are the ones who fought against consolidation and there was agreement not to proceed in that path. I dont know how David is going to look at these guys in the eyes in the next SGM if he does not have a good plan...otherwise David will be labelled a liar. This thing is sticking out like a sore thumb and I can tell you that the SGM is not going to be pretty. meanwhile   FA is still very good.
So question is ..Does he has a super good plan? Will it be followed with a share split 2 to 3 yrs later?
Side news :
1. China yuan will continue its rise and by 2020..a 30% against USD is expected...which means higher px for HK in the coming yrs only on fx conversion
2. China top guns are meeting this week..so expect good news in the area of urbanization, water and air pollution control this week.