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richtan
    14-Sep-2009 11:01  
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I find it is too tiring n energy-zapping to be drawn into an argument with u, I rather spend tat time more fruitfully in my trading n my daily live.

Al I can say is "lets share a common space n stop belittling others", no need to prove others wrong, to err is human.



cheongwee      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 10:53) Posted:



richtan...i did not said every trade...it is you who said it....i said 70% of the time..pls dont anyhow quote ppl...just like you dont like ppl to anyhow rate your post.. ,,,you already admit your TA is 50/50...so??? your eye something wrong???read the wrong post???

furthermore...u can quote confucious..saying do to other as u like other to do unto you...you are plain bullshit and hopless guy...truly..

if forumer here dont agree. i can prove to you all....this guy is hoplessly sensitve and ridiculous...with black and white...

cursing and swearing other...a hopless man...who got no shame..

richtan...you really want it..if you dont mind..

 
 
des_khor
    14-Sep-2009 10:57  
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US vs CHINA
 
 
cheongwee
    14-Sep-2009 10:57  
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if that is true, then how come so many ppl here still lose money...

kellychang said she lose money...i thk she follow your TA??? 50/50??..hahahaha

you own me an apolody..better do it now, or be shame..



richtan      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 10:34) Posted:

Smiley SmileySmiley  I fully agree with u tat no one can be 100% accurate except saintly person.

Frankly, it does not need to be a saint to be correct n make money on almost any counter (except maybe a few), chances of making money is extremely high not bcos tat person is 100% correct in every of his/her trades during the period from Mar to now as the general mkt is bullish during this period.

MsAloevera      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:41) Posted:

No one can be right 100% of the time, somebody thk and predict today will be a good day... and today have a bad start... now to Zzz...


 

 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 10:55  
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Did I ever quote your name specifically tat u are 100% accurate, if yes, then, my apology.
 
 
cheongwee
    14-Sep-2009 10:53  
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richtan...i did not said every trade...it is you who said it....i said 70% of the time..pls dont anyhow quote ppl...just like you dont like ppl to anyhow rate your post.. ,,,you already admit your TA is 50/50...so??? your eye something wrong???read the wrong post???

furthermore...u can quote confucious..saying do to other as u like other to do unto you...you are plain bullshit and hopless guy...truly..

if forumer here dont agree. i can prove to you all....this guy is hoplessly sensitve and ridiculous...with black and white...

cursing and swearing other...a hopless man...who got no shame..

richtan...you really want it..if you dont mind..
 
 
cheongwee
    14-Sep-2009 10:44  
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richtan...pls dont anyhow qyote me...saying100% of the time...i said 70% of the time...pls apolodise now...before you regret.

richtan      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:26) Posted:

I m glad for u on attaining a saintly status "making money on every trades, frankly unbelievable", u must be the smartest n best trader, better than Warren Buffet, Jim Rogers, Oei Hong Leong, blah... blah... blah... but no point debating, u have your beliefs while oyhers have their beliefs, so it is best to live in harmony just as our PM said about religious harmony, so dun criticise n belittle others n debase others as 50/50 but keep glorifying your own beliefs.

If u dun share other's beliefs, jsut ignore n dun read but dun criticise it as there are others whom believe in it n will want to read.

As Confucious said: "Dun do onto others wat u dun want others to do unto u"

 

 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 10:34  
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Smiley SmileySmiley  I fully agree with u tat no one can be 100% accurate except saintly person.

Frankly, it does not need to be a saint to be correct n make money on almost any counter (except maybe a few), chances of making money is extremely high not bcos tat person is 100% correct in every of his/her trades during the period from Mar to now as the general mkt is bullish during this period.

MsAloevera      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:41) Posted:

No one can be right 100% of the time, somebody thk and predict today will be a good day... and today have a bad start... now to Zzz...

 
 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 10:27  
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Smiley SmileySmiley  I fully agree with u tat no one can be 100% accurate except saintly person.

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 10:09) Posted:

Currently I don't think there is sufficient data or information to point to the economy about to go double-dip recession.  The basic strength of the market is there and it will have to build a base/support area for the next move.  Naturally the next move could be more inclined towards improving economy rather than making it bad.  So personally, I believe any downward moves can only be corrections of major moves that we saw for two quarters already, March to September 2009. Nobody can be 100 percent accurate, but forecasts are mere forecasts which we hope can happen! Cheers.. 

 
 
luckyman
    14-Sep-2009 10:16  
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keepnosecrets
    14-Sep-2009 10:09  
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Currently I don't think there is sufficient data or information to point to the economy about to go double-dip recession.  The basic strength of the market is there and it will have to build a base/support area for the next move.  Naturally the next move could be more inclined towards improving economy rather than making it bad.  So personally, I believe any downward moves can only be corrections of major moves that we saw for two quarters already, March to September 2009. Nobody can be 100 percent accurate, but forecasts are mere forecasts which we hope can happen! Cheers.. 
 

 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 09:53  
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If u are an Elliot wave expert, u will also know tat there is always an alternative wave count, even Elliot wave is not saintly, it also cant commit whther it will be bullish or bearish.

richtan      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:50) Posted:

i trade n decide the next day action on my stocks based on my interpretation of the EOD candles, emas n other indicators n TA have no saintly attributes to foretell the far future whether bullish or bearish but all I can say at this point in time is tat the STI's emas are all uptrending but tat does not guarantee tat there will be no corrections or the trend will not change i future, thus why it is important to "set stop-losses" n Trade What You See, Not What You Hear (see the charts).

kellychang      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:39) Posted:



welll richtan..then based on your chart? bullish or bearish now?

 


 
 
keepnosecrets
    14-Sep-2009 09:51  
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Thanks, AK.  I am no sifu, nor a great one.  Just giving an honest opinion keeping no secrets of my beliefs. Haha. But reading your posts, I know the real sifu is in AK. 

AK_Francis      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:21) Posted:

Ha ha , comrade, u r d sifu of d sifu. U dwell into details. Salute.

However, AK takes both CW n Rtan views and other sifus' views as well. There is no R or W in ALL posting, AK enjoying reading them n realy appreciate individual relentless efforts rendered.

Cheers.  



keepnosecrets      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:06) Posted:

Both of you have your points.  But I believe Rich Tan is more down to earth, more straight forward and what he said or is saying is more "acceptable" because you can see his charts and the tools he uses.  His interpretations might not be 100 per cent, but at least it is tangible and "legible".  Whereas CW can say this and say that and you have to  blindly follow if you want to follow, i.e.  But if you don't want to follow it is ok with her.


 
 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 09:50  
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i trade n decide the next day action on my stocks based on my interpretation of the EOD candles, emas n other indicators n TA have no saintly attributes to foretell the far future whether bullish or bearish but all I can say at this point in time is tat the STI's emas are all uptrending but tat does not guarantee tat there will be no corrections or the trend will not change i future, thus why it is important to "set stop-losses" n Trade What You See, Not What You Hear (see the charts).

kellychang      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:39) Posted:



welll richtan..then based on your chart? bullish or bearish now?

 

 
 
MsAloevera
    14-Sep-2009 09:41  
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No one can be right 100% of the time, somebody thk and predict today will be a good day... and today have a bad start... now to Zzz...
 
 
kellychang
    14-Sep-2009 09:39  
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welll richtan..then based on your chart? bullish or bearish now?

 
 

 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 09:37  
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Many thanks for your frank assessment n support n recognising my efforts in analysing n posting things tat are tangible, I agree tat I m no saints, so my analysis is never 100% right as also I m frank n upfront to say tat I m no saints n TA is not infallible but if I abide by my 3 golden mantras of which one is "Cut losses short n let profits run with trailing stops", my net profits more than cover my losses n I m happy enuf, so it is up to individual to decide to follow the saint or a mere mortal like me with no saintly attributes as I said dyodd n BOSAYOR

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:06) Posted:

Both of you have your points.  But I believe Rich Tan is more down to earth, more straight forward and what he said or is saying is more "acceptable" because you can see his charts and the tools he uses.  His interpretations might not be 100 per cent, but at least it is tangible and "legible".  Whereas CW can say this and say that and you have to  blindly follow if you want to follow, i.e.  But if you don't want to follow it is ok with her.

 
 
richtan
    14-Sep-2009 09:26  
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I m glad for u on attaining a saintly status "making money on every trades, frankly unbelievable", u must be the smartest n best trader, better than Warren Buffet, Jim Rogers, Oei Hong Leong, blah... blah... blah... but no point debating, u have your beliefs while oyhers have their beliefs, so it is best to live in harmony just as our PM said about religious harmony, so dun criticise n belittle others n debase others as 50/50 but keep glorifying your own beliefs.

If u dun share other's beliefs, jsut ignore n dun read but dun criticise it as there are others whom believe in it n will want to read.

As Confucious said: "Dun do onto others wat u dun want others to do unto u"



cheongwee      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 01:32) Posted:



kellychang...u really did check my previous post to convince that my call are all mostly quite accurate, right??..and u agree it is "chun"..thanks ,but i am not flatter, just so...becos i know wat i am doing...

so now you are convince, but that is no luck, if you are right twice, you are lucky, but if you are right 70% of the time, you call that luck.??well it u want to , up to u.....

but since ppl like to call it luck or whatever, it is up to them....but i still dont agree on 50/50 chance, it is like gambling...i am not against the use of whatever method, or argue to win for that sake...

in the end, it is winning trade that count, and using something that give 50/50, will never achieve what i have achieve so far,,,you can check my post for your reference.again....i am not showing off...but why throw your chance to the wind..

i am going for operation, if my doctor tell me ...cheongwee,,it is 50/50....i say leave me lone...at least i still can live awhile, better than operate on 50/50..dont you agree??

FREE THINGS IS ALWAYS GOOD, BUT GOOD THINGS IS NEVER ALWAYS FREE!!!

i will continue on the next post....

 

 
 
AK_Francis
    14-Sep-2009 09:21  
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Ha ha , comrade, u r d sifu of d sifu. U dwell into details. Salute.

However, AK takes both CW n Rtan views and other sifus' views as well. There is no R or W in ALL posting, AK enjoying reading them n realy appreciate individual relentless efforts rendered.

Cheers.  



keepnosecrets      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 09:06) Posted:

Both of you have your points.  But I believe Rich Tan is more down to earth, more straight forward and what he said or is saying is more "acceptable" because you can see his charts and the tools he uses.  His interpretations might not be 100 per cent, but at least it is tangible and "legible".  Whereas CW can say this and say that and you have to  blindly follow if you want to follow, i.e.  But if you don't want to follow it is ok with her.

 
 
keepnosecrets
    14-Sep-2009 09:06  
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Both of you have your points.  But I believe Rich Tan is more down to earth, more straight forward and what he said or is saying is more "acceptable" because you can see his charts and the tools he uses.  His interpretations might not be 100 per cent, but at least it is tangible and "legible".  Whereas CW can say this and say that and you have to  blindly follow if you want to follow, i.e.  But if you don't want to follow it is ok with her.
 
 
kellychang
    14-Sep-2009 08:16  
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well...i am agree on your point of views...

and maybe due to woman 6 sense...well, so i think we our prediction will be zhun haha...

well....so that is y, others want to buy, we let them continue to buy...

as for me, i will just wait good chance...i still dun believe next year is going to be a very bullish year...

i think there is always chance for me :)

btw, dyodd.....

cheongwee...anything just pm me, the timing for me to buy n the stock for me to boy...thanks...

i will follow your call...i will cut those useless penny...and do right buy this time....




cheongwee      ( Date: 14-Sep-2009 01:32) Posted:



kellychang...u really did check my previous post to convince that my call are all mostly quite accurate, right??..and u agree it is "chun"..thanks ,but i am not flatter, just so...becos i know wat i am doing...

so now you are convince, but that is no luck, if you are right twice, you are lucky, but if you are right 70% of the time, you call that luck.??well it u want to , up to u.....

but since ppl like to call it luck or whatever, it is up to them....but i still dont agree on 50/50 chance, it is like gambling...i am not against the use of whatever method, or argue to win for that sake...

in the end, it is winning trade that count, and using something that give 50/50, will never achieve what i have achieve so far,,,you can check my post for your reference.again....i am not showing off...but why throw your chance to the wind..

i am going for operation, if my doctor tell me ...cheongwee,,it is 50/50....i say leave me lone...at least i still can live awhile, better than operate on 50/50..dont you agree??

FREE THINGS IS ALWAYS GOOD, BUT GOOD THINGS IS NEVER ALWAYS FREE!!!

i will continue on the next post....

 

 
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