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terencee
    17-Apr-2013 16:20  
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Why suddenly our huat bro become angry ? LOL.. Relax la.. I might enter if Contel dare to test all day low again today. If not, I'll just sit at the fence and see which side Contel will go. 
 
 
Moomooland
    17-Apr-2013 16:02  
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everytime suddenly chiong high high, then next day will lao sai or lao hong one...
 
 
clickshop1628
    17-Apr-2013 15:53  
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We are here to discuss, not quarrel. Seeing both sides of the story is better than being one sided. High risk, high returns. Manage your risk and go in (or out for kateks) with both eyes wide opened. This is a BB controlled stock in the short term so anything can happen. Maybe next week, cheong to 12 cts or ... lao sai to 7cts?

Until and unless the RTO is finalised and YuuZoo listed, it will still be a speculative play with emotional ups & downs like a Taiwanese soap opera, IMHO.

Have fun :)



 

 
gelu2279
    17-Apr-2013 15:46  
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of course it will chiong, just matter of fall and chiong, stay and chiong or chiong and chiong

what flavor u like? :)
 
 
srichipan
    17-Apr-2013 15:36  
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obviously you already know the answer. it will chiong sooner or later. don't market here market there.  

gelu2279      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 15:30) Posted:

cant ask me for accurate answer, have to ask rest of market looking intensely at this counter

 
 
gelu2279
    17-Apr-2013 15:34  
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lol i sound like a serious analyst rite

just kidding la.... this stock is f-ed liao... 100% manipulation.. enter at your own risk!!!
 

 
Huatahearnmoney
    17-Apr-2013 15:30  
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Mai kay si la u, You are obviously one katek.

Tall people ah , want it to bull and chiong... cmon lor, got sell = got buy. the average trade price was how much ytd? Kateks are obviously pulling it down. 20,223,000 shares is enough to stop the bull and make it U turn. No katek, confirm upz.

 

Just want to voice my views on your so call " without reading the RTO prospectus"

But in anyway, I cant trash you... because I am katek ytd =)


gelu2279      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 15:27) Posted:



who doesnt want to buy into a facebook like company? had a good mind to hold on at 80+....until I saw RTO details and it was a turn-off


obviously i would come back and hold long if the company proves its worth.. i love e-commerce


just want to voice concern here.. many dive in without reading the RTO prospectus, friends included




disclaimer: bearish not equal katek

 
 
gelu2279
    17-Apr-2013 15:30  
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cant ask me for accurate answer, have to ask rest of market looking intensely at this counter
 
 
srichipan
    17-Apr-2013 15:28  
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I think short sellers should be more nervous. the nature of yuuzoo business means their revenue will increase exponentially.With all those big shots in their executive and non executive board, you think this will not grow?

  CHAIRMEN of DBS, Singapore Airline, Credit Suisse, Ericsson, Former PRESIDENT of Ogilvy & Mather Worldwide, Former MANAGING DIRECTOR of Forbes Magazine (Managing Director).

 
 
 
gelu2279
    17-Apr-2013 15:27  
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who doesnt want to buy into a facebook like company? had a good mind to hold on at 80+....until I saw RTO details and it was a turn-off


obviously i would come back and hold long if the company proves its worth.. i love e-commerce


just want to voice concern here.. many dive in without reading the RTO prospectus, friends included




disclaimer: bearish not equal katek
 

 
srichipan
    17-Apr-2013 15:21  
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what nervous? haha. you also not vested anymore. honestly why would you care.

gelu2279      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 15:20) Posted:



agree, we should see the '13 actual and '14 forecast revenue growth before thinking whether $582M is a right number. if they can maintain growth, then i would love to hold for next 5 years


i personally want to see their business reporting, e.g. active users, transactions etc. Social commerce is hot everybody knows... but asia is a fragmented market with many players.

it may very well turn out to be the next facebook or twitter... but failed RTO in US / private equity listing (did it go thru?) / second RTO try on SGX makes me nervous.





clickshop1628      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:41) Posted:



They both want over-valustion because after listing, they can then raise cash by a higher priced rights issue. Trouble is the market must be able to accept this high valuation - no one can hold up the price artificially forever.

In the end, it depends on whether the market believes in the Yuuzoo biz model and whether Yuuzoo can meet its very high projected profits or not. I think $500m valuation is a bit too high - PE of about 62x based on latest earnings.


 
 
gelu2279
    17-Apr-2013 15:20  
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agree, we should see the '13 actual and '14 forecast revenue growth before thinking whether $582M is a right number. if they can maintain growth, then i would love to hold for next 5 years


i personally want to see their business reporting, e.g. active users, transactions etc. Social commerce is hot everybody knows... but asia is a fragmented market with many players.

it may very well turn out to be the next facebook or twitter... but failed RTO in US / private equity listing (did it go thru?) / second RTO try on SGX makes me nervous.





clickshop1628      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:41) Posted:



They both want over-valustion because after listing, they can then raise cash by a higher priced rights issue. Trouble is the market must be able to accept this high valuation - no one can hold up the price artificially forever.

In the end, it depends on whether the market believes in the Yuuzoo biz model and whether Yuuzoo can meet its very high projected profits or not. I think $500m valuation is a bit too high - PE of about 62x based on latest earnings.


srichipan      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:36) Posted:

it doesn't benefit contel or yuuzoo to have a under or over valuatio


 
 
Desmond69
    17-Apr-2013 15:18  
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So you intend to do a long again?

terencee      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 14:00) Posted:



Still looking into contel. If contel no run, I also give up. Just in time to sell away in May and go away. I put in a lot of work for contel so I feel comfortable trading contel only. :) 

 

Pennies are good for quick cash. They are also quick to make you broke. Trade with care. :)  

Desmond69      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:32) Posted:

Great! Do you manage to size other good opportunity? WE Holdings has not really moved up?


 
 
srichipan
    17-Apr-2013 15:11  
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are you vested? either long or short

clickshop1628      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 15:06) Posted:



If you want to go for long term, I think buy next year, after share consolidation and possible rights issue. YuuZoo valuation at > $500m may be too high if they cannot meet profit forecast. Also year 2012 results are still not audited yet. By next year, everything should be clearer.

However, if Contel shares fall to below 7cts, then the risk is lower and worth a buy. May or may not happen, no one knows for sure. But there is still a long way to 31 Dec 2013.

Buy now at above 9cts, you need to stomach both stock risk and market risk. It is all up to the investor to decide :)


 

Patkeane      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 14:41) Posted:

We know that no body actually paid $0.10 to buy the shares of contel corp is a shares swop but the big company shares also worth money right ? We are buying potential of this company after the rto , nobody will buy something that is worthless and no plans ahead , if they have no plans and dun see something on contel corp they might as well use the money go ntuc buy some food at least can be eaten , this rto is with deep thought and cinsideration and definitely a positive moves for me I will hold in to this shares .


 
 
clickshop1628
    17-Apr-2013 15:06  
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If you want to go for long term, I think buy next year, after share consolidation and possible rights issue. YuuZoo valuation at > $500m may be too high if they cannot meet profit forecast. Also year 2012 results are still not audited yet. By next year, everything should be clearer.

However, if Contel shares fall to below 7cts, then the risk is lower and worth a buy. May or may not happen, no one knows for sure. But there is still a long way to 31 Dec 2013.

Buy now at above 9cts, you need to stomach both stock risk and market risk. It is all up to the investor to decide :)


 

Patkeane      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 14:41) Posted:

We know that no body actually paid $0.10 to buy the shares of contel corp is a shares swop but the big company shares also worth money right ? We are buying potential of this company after the rto , nobody will buy something that is worthless and no plans ahead , if they have no plans and dun see something on contel corp they might as well use the money go ntuc buy some food at least can be eaten , this rto is with deep thought and cinsideration and definitely a positive moves for me I will hold in to this shares .

clickshop1628      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:29) Posted:



When you think like that, you have already fallen into BBs hands. Yuuzoo did not pay 10cts for Contel shares. It is a share swop. The 10ct is used as a measure of Yuuzoo's worth. It is hard to explain but just know that no big company buy at 10ct and there is no General Offer (GO) for 10cts like some people here thought.


Look at Transcu - actually some company bought the placement at 4.5 -5cts, but share price is still at way below 2cts.

In Contel's case, 10ct is a valuation agreed between Contel and Yuuzoo and nobody actually paid 10cts for the share. Why people here think that 10ct is like guaranteed? No wonder BBs play retailers out always.


 

 
mb7269
    17-Apr-2013 14:46  
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Have peace of mind lah. Contel is not yet for touch. BB still dont know what they are doing... Dont get caught into they trap..
 
 
Patkeane
    17-Apr-2013 14:41  
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We know that no body actually paid $0.10 to buy the shares of contel corp is a shares swop but the big company shares also worth money right ? We are buying potential of this company after the rto , nobody will buy something that is worthless and no plans ahead , if they have no plans and dun see something on contel corp they might as well use the money go ntuc buy some food at least can be eaten , this rto is with deep thought and cinsideration and definitely a positive moves for me I will hold in to this shares .

clickshop1628      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 13:29) Posted:



When you think like that, you have already fallen into BBs hands. Yuuzoo did not pay 10cts for Contel shares. It is a share swop. The 10ct is used as a measure of Yuuzoo's worth. It is hard to explain but just know that no big company buy at 10ct and there is no General Offer (GO) for 10cts like some people here thought.


Look at Transcu - actually some company bought the placement at 4.5 -5cts, but share price is still at way below 2cts.

In Contel's case, 10ct is a valuation agreed between Contel and Yuuzoo and nobody actually paid 10cts for the share. Why people here think that 10ct is like guaranteed? No wonder BBs play retailers out always.


Patkeane      ( Date: 17-Apr-2013 12:34) Posted:

Dun worry big company are buying contel corp at $0.10 , and u buying at $0.099 , so what do you think ? The big company cannot be throwing money into the sea one , have patience , if they buying at $0.10 than the value should be much greater than that . I hv vested also at $0.099.


 
 
mlfbac
    17-Apr-2013 14:36  
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support if want to, else understandable ..............Smiley
 
 
srichipan
    17-Apr-2013 14:30  
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swee la
 
 
commando
    17-Apr-2013 14:25  
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Move up abit...Shortist covering
 
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