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always be strict about the entering price..
so strict like u are bargaining for the best price in the wet market...
like wat i have learnt from ipunter :)
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 20:58) Posted:
You must note that it is not a matter of 1 bid or any other margin...
What is more important is one must have a good
rationale for entering at a specific price... 
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 20:48) Posted:
| I believe ur bet at 0.65 and cut loss 1 bid lower is pretty safe. Learn something from u everytime. Thanks Sifu. |
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BTW, I'm not advocating pple to buy at 0.65. Buy at ur own risk and judgement. It's ur money anyway...
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 20:48) Posted:
I believe ur bet at 0.65 and cut loss 1 bid lower is pretty safe. Learn something from u everytime. Thanks Sifu.
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:15) Posted:
Whether big boys play, or whatever boys play is not out concern...
In stocks, or other betting medium (eg. forex, futures etc),
our 'duty' is to bet well, period...
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You must note that it is not a matter of 1 bid or any other margin...
What is more important is one must have a good
rationale for entering at a specific price...
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 20:48) Posted:
I believe ur bet at 0.65 and cut loss 1 bid lower is pretty safe. Learn something from u everytime. Thanks Sifu.
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:15) Posted:
Whether big boys play, or whatever boys play is not out concern...
In stocks, or other betting medium (eg. forex, futures etc),
our 'duty' is to bet well, period...
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I believe ur bet at 0.65 and cut loss 1 bid lower is pretty safe. Learn something from u everytime. Thanks Sifu.
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:15) Posted:
Whether big boys play, or whatever boys play is not out concern...
In stocks, or other betting medium (eg. forex, futures etc),
our 'duty' is to bet well, period...
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:07) Posted:
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
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Very true, this was what I told my friend when she ask me how come I still have not cut loss. I was expecting the same with Q4 result & hold tight tight. But I could be wrong.
Hope next week will be a better week. (=^_^=)
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:07) Posted:
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
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This is why when elephants play they are also playing the market itself
Elephants also have bull and bears...
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 18:11) Posted:
If BBs are selling in strength, some one must have bought from them. That someone buying is also BBs. So, on one side, BBs selling, another BBs could be collecting...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:59) Posted:
i realise that ppl including myself like to think tat BBs trying to accumulate..
we never think tat BB's trying to dump...
i agree with ipunter not to bother guessing wat bb's trying to do cause there are 1001 possibilities..
BBs might be really accumulating but if things are wrong they might just dump out instantly. |
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If BBs are selling in strength, some one must have bought from them. That someone buying is also BBs. So, on one side, BBs selling, another BBs could be collecting...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:59) Posted:
i realise that ppl including myself like to think tat BBs trying to accumulate..
we never think tat BB's trying to dump...
i agree with ipunter not to bother guessing wat bb's trying to do cause there are 1001 possibilities..
BBs might be really accumulating but if things are wrong they might just dump out instantly. |
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i realise that ppl including myself like to think tat BBs trying to accumulate..
we never think tat BB's trying to dump...
i agree with ipunter not to bother guessing wat bb's trying to do cause there are 1001 possibilities..
BBs might be really accumulating but if things are wrong they might just dump out instantly.
That's a good reminder. Preciously what I was saying too but with more documented info.
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:07) Posted:
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
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Whether big boys play, or whatever boys play is not out concern...
In stocks, or other betting medium (eg. forex, futures etc),
our 'duty' is to bet well, period...
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:07) Posted:
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
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u might be right
i wonder if there will be another panic selling when this counter reaches 60..
just my thought too, i am just waiting for opportunity..
tiancai007 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:07) Posted:
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
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In the week following the announcement last quarter, GAR went down to 0.65 and then the day before the report it shot up 8 cts to close at historical high of 0.78c. Remember this faithful day last Nov? This is the 2nd highest vol and 2nd most speculative stock in STI. BBs like to play with is kind of stock... I expect the same next week. Just my 2 cents thought... I could be very wrong in this.
hm.. ur cut loss's at 645, which means ur tp is at > 660 :)
let's hope sti can sustain 3040 this week.
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 16:00) Posted:
My R/R ratio for all bets is always 1:2.
which means profits must always be double losses...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:45) Posted:
| ipunter, just curious. wat's ur tp for the 65 cents lot tat u bet on ? : |
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My R/R ratio for all bets is always 1:2.
which means profits must always be double losses...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:45) Posted:
ipunter, just curious. wat's ur tp for the 65 cents lot tat u bet on ? :P
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:42) Posted:
Re: shoemaker: " ... So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet
is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask
yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices
and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents..."
That is the sad reason why many people have committed suicide in the past (averaging down) ... 
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ipunter, just curious. wat's ur tp for the 65 cents lot tat u bet on ? :P
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:42) Posted:
Re: shoemaker: " ... So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet
is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask
yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices
and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents..."
That is the sad reason why many people have committed suicide in the past (averaging down) ...
GuavaXF30 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:26) Posted:
Results to be announced on teh 28th likely to be strong positive. Do remember the period to be reported is up to end-December 2010 when the CPO prices hit record high. Also, Greenpeace effect has been forgotten already. What is likley to be effecting prices are plays by BB's to draw down for buy ups. Careful you do not get panicky these next few days because you may see buy-ups just before the 28th.
But as Shoemaker says, if you are real investors, nothing to worry about. On the other hand, contra players...... well, you were taking a chance anyway so nothing to complain about |
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Re: shoemaker: " ... So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet
is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask
yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices
and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents..."
That is the sad reason why many people have committed suicide in the past (averaging down) ...
GuavaXF30 ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 15:26) Posted:
Results to be announced on teh 28th likely to be strong positive. Do remember the period to be reported is up to end-December 2010 when the CPO prices hit record high. Also, Greenpeace effect has been forgotten already. What is likley to be effecting prices are plays by BB's to draw down for buy ups. Careful you do not get panicky these next few days because you may see buy-ups just before the 28th.
But as Shoemaker says, if you are real investors, nothing to worry about. On the other hand, contra players...... well, you were taking a chance anyway so nothing to complain about.
shoemaker ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 11:42) Posted:
The question is are these reasons GOOD ENOUGH to justify for a 20+% DROP in price? In an industry that is not exactly directly hit by the China interest rate hikes? CPO dropping... by how much??
If you look around other world indices, they are in fact MOSTLY GOING UP!! Especially Dow and SSE... so is China inflation/cooling measure/interest rate hike still the key reason behind?
I'm rather convinced it could be a coordinated attempt by the BBs to short/pull money out of Singapore market and pump into other foreign markets. So as to result in mass panic here, and then later come back in to pick up the remains at knocked down prices... They win either way!! While leaving the aunties and uncles scared s***less and caught in the bind!!!
So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents.. |
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Results to be announced on teh 28th likely to be strong positive. Do remember the period to be reported is up to end-December 2010 when the CPO prices hit record high. Also, Greenpeace effect has been forgotten already. What is likley to be effecting prices are plays by BB's to draw down for buy ups. Careful you do not get panicky these next few days because you may see buy-ups just before the 28th.
But as Shoemaker says, if you are real investors, nothing to worry about. On the other hand, contra players...... well, you were taking a chance anyway so nothing to complain about.
shoemaker ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 11:42) Posted:
The question is are these reasons GOOD ENOUGH to justify for a 20+% DROP in price? In an industry that is not exactly directly hit by the China interest rate hikes? CPO dropping... by how much??
If you look around other world indices, they are in fact MOSTLY GOING UP!! Especially Dow and SSE... so is China inflation/cooling measure/interest rate hike still the key reason behind?
I'm rather convinced it could be a coordinated attempt by the BBs to short/pull money out of Singapore market and pump into other foreign markets. So as to result in mass panic here, and then later come back in to pick up the remains at knocked down prices... They win either way!! While leaving the aunties and uncles scared s***less and caught in the bind!!!
So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 10:26) Posted:
the panic selling is not for NO GOOD REASONS..
it's because of the china inflation and interest rate hike news..
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cpo dropping
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The question is are these reasons GOOD ENOUGH to justify for a 20+% DROP in price? In an industry that is not exactly directly hit by the China interest rate hikes? CPO dropping... by how much??
If you look around other world indices, they are in fact MOSTLY GOING UP!! Especially Dow and SSE... so is China inflation/cooling measure/interest rate hike still the key reason behind?
I'm rather convinced it could be a coordinated attempt by the BBs to short/pull money out of Singapore market and pump into other foreign markets. So as to result in mass panic here, and then later come back in to pick up the remains at knocked down prices... They win either way!! While leaving the aunties and uncles scared s***less and caught in the bind!!!
So I believe to win the game (your personal game, that is) the best bet is to keep averaging down for a stock you have strong faith in. Ask yourself this logical question: wouldn't it be better to buy when prices and downside risks are lowered? Just my 2 cents...
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 10:26) Posted:
the panic selling is not for NO GOOD REASONS..
it's because of the china inflation and interest rate hike news..
and
cpo dropping
iPunter ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 10:19) Posted:
New to this forum doesn't mean you are a greenhorn...
I always respect anyone who has played the stock market for years, or decades and decades.
Thus, I have no doubt you are extremely experienced in every aspect of stock playing... |
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yes, you're almost right. G20 meeting has end. ah tim continue to pressure yuan appreciate, but china counter with bank reserve ratio (fri) to cool yuan appreciating (fx). this time in paris, the debate not so " Hot" than in seoul (nothings new). interest rates hike most likely to be in april liao. Do keep a watch on china PPI for hints on CPI, econ studying can be very the headache one.
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 10:28) Posted:
in fact, i suspect STI dropped after mid-day cause they were scared tat china would give out 'news' over the weekend..
and they were right, china did give out a 'good news' after the market closed..
rotijai ( Date: 20-Feb-2011 10:26) Posted:
the panic selling is not for NO GOOD REASONS..
it's because of the china inflation and interest rate hike news..
and
cpo dropping
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Do watch cpo at rm 3600 then
