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Zelphon
    27-Oct-2009 10:18  
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When is Q3 results???

Me holding @ $0.055...

Sianzzz...

Whether I cut or hold depends on Q3 results.. 

 
 
 
erictkw
    26-Oct-2009 10:12  
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Me same same also...  Smiley

ianong      ( Date: 25-Oct-2009 09:13) Posted:

I share the sentiment as you. Cheers!

thomas_low      ( Date: 24-Oct-2009 01:05) Posted:

There were only 16 trades on Friday, 4cents bargain basement, I will keep loading and keep them the next 2 quaters to reap the extra output benefit, ignoring low volume price fluctuation. This is my own opinion only, dont follow me....or you may loose money...hehe Smiley 56


 
 
ianong
    25-Oct-2009 09:13  
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I share the sentiment as you. Cheers!

thomas_low      ( Date: 24-Oct-2009 01:05) Posted:

There were only 16 trades on Friday, 4cents bargain basement, I will keep loading and keep them the next 2 quaters to reap the extra output benefit, ignoring low volume price fluctuation. This is my own opinion only, dont follow me....or you may loose money...hehe Smiley 56

 

 
ianong
    25-Oct-2009 09:12  
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One more point, UOBAM holds 40million shares on Abterra amd from its investment amount, the avg cost is $0.055. One core area of this fund is into resources, so besides Abterra, Straits Asia Resources is also in its holdings.



ianong      ( Date: 25-Oct-2009 09:08) Posted:

Access this link to look at the fund's Annual Report and Fund Factsheet. I am also into UT and have been looking if any fund house is covering this counter and I chanced upon it as I hold this fund.

http://www.fundsupermart.com/main/fundinfo/viewFund.svdo?sedolnumber=UBASGO



bennykusman      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:16) Posted:

any url to clarify ?


 
 
ianong
    25-Oct-2009 09:08  
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Access this link to look at the fund's Annual Report and Fund Factsheet. I am also into UT and have been looking if any fund house is covering this counter and I chanced upon it as I hold this fund.

http://www.fundsupermart.com/main/fundinfo/viewFund.svdo?sedolnumber=UBASGO



bennykusman      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:16) Posted:

any url to clarify ?

ianong      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:09) Posted:

UOBAM is holding this fund in UOB United Asian Growth Opportunities fund which invests in asia's SME. It's in top 10 holdings at 40mil shares. I see its potential.


 
 
thomas_low
    24-Oct-2009 01:05  
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There were only 16 trades on Friday, 4cents bargain basement, I will keep loading and keep them the next 2 quaters to reap the extra output benefit, ignoring low volume price fluctuation. This is my own opinion only, dont follow me....or you may loose money...hehe Smiley 56
 

 
thomas_low
    24-Oct-2009 00:58  
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UPDATE 1-China steel output surges back towards record

Published: 19 Oct 2009 20:53:24 PST

 

* Daily output of 1.692 million tonnes in Oct 1-10

* Close to previous record output of 1.693 mln T in August

* Early Oct output equivalent to annual output of 618 mln t

BEIJING, Oct 20 - China's huge steel sector pushed production back towards the record level set in August, data from the China Iron & Steel Association seen by Reuters showed on Tuesday.

China is by far the world's biggest steel producer, with last year's output equal to that of the next eight steel producing nations put together. And this year production has boomed while steel mills elsewhere reined in operations for the first half.

The CISA figures showed daily crude steel output rose to 1.692 million tonnes in the first 10 days of October, up from 1.646 million tonnes in the last 10 days of September, within a whisker of the 1.693 million tonne average seen in late August.

Early October's production was equivalent to annual output of 618 million tonnes, a Reuters calculation showed, compared with 500 million tonnes in 2008.

China has huge overcapacity in steel production and is now threatened by possible oversupply, with CISA estimating Chinese stockpiles at 40 million to 50 million tonnes, but official calls to clamp down on rampant production have had little or no impact.

Having been buoyed for much of this year by the government's $586 billion economic stimulus, China's steel mills are now seeing a light at the end of the tunnel for exports of steel products, which rose 19 percent in September compared to October.

But after collapsing in the first half of the year, exports remain far below 2008 levels, with September's shipments of 2.47 million tonnes almost two-thirds down from the previous year.

Output figures from CISA tend to be slightly below those given by the National Bureau of Statistics, which is due to issue production data for the month of September on Thursday.

 
 
thomas_low
    24-Oct-2009 00:53  
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China Coal-Spot prices hit 2009 highs on rising demand

Published: 22 Oct 2009 22:44:08 PST

 

SHANGHAI, Oct 23 - Spot thermal coal prices in China's top coal port Qinhuangdao rose for a fifth straight week and hit their highest levels this year, as demand for winter heating grows on top of recovering power consumption.

Prices for coal with calorific value of 5,800 kcal/kg rose 2 percent on the week to a range of 650 to 660 yuan ($95.2 - $96.7) a tonne, up 8 percent from nearly six weeks ago, according to the Qinhuangdao Seaborne Coal Market (www.cqcoal.com).

Coal with calorific value of 5,500 kcal/kg was quoted at 620 to 630 yuan a tonne, up 2 percent from a week earlier, the website also said.

"Thermal coal prices are likely to maintain their upward trend as coal demand is expected to grow in the winter due to heating demand," said Lu Ping, an analyst at China Merchants Securities.

Power generation has picked up in the past few months as electricity demand gradually recovers in the world's third-largest economy.

With China's economic growth accelerating to 8.9 percent in the third-quarter, demand for power is expected to rise as industrial activities ramp up.

Coal stocks in Qinhuangdao rose nearly 25 percent from a week earlier to 4.7 million tonnes by Thursday, analysts said. ($1=6.828 Yuan)

source: http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/energy/100188788-1-china-coal-spot-prices-hit-2009.html

 
 
thomas_low
    24-Oct-2009 00:49  
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In May, it paid 188 million yuan (S$39.5 million) for a 49 per cent stake in Shanxi Taixing Jiao Zhong Coal Indus­try Co, which delivers coking coal for the production of steel. This writer visited this mine as well as Zuoquan Yongxing Coal Company (also in Shanxi), in which Abter­ra acquired a 15 per cent stake for 45.75 million yuan in 2007. As the Jiao Zhong mine will be ac­counted for as a subsidiary, the Abterra management is excited about its im­pending boost to group revenues, espe­cially when approval is obtained to raise annual production capacity six-fold to 900,000 tonnes. The surge in production will enable Abterra, which recently sported a mar­ket capitalisation of around S$330 mil­lion based on its stock price of 6.5 cents, to ride the long-term uptrend of China’s steel-making sector. More immediately, the country’s massive 4.5 trillion yuan economic stimulus package, part of which will fund the steel-hungry infrastructure and industrial mega-projects, is a boon.

>Not new news but remember, the drift is largely low volume, at peak 250Mil shares traded in a day, now 1.65Mil. 49% stake of 900,000 tonnes, 620RMB/Ton worked out to be 273Mil RMB or 56M, SGD extra... what do you think about the coming profit? Then there is some good news...

Chinese domestic coal price rises on squeezed stock
Friday, 23 Oct 2009
Latest source indicates that coal price has maintained the uptrend on declining stock volume at Qin Huangdao, one of China largest coal ports. The uptrend is contributed by both low level of stock volume and rising demand. They pointed out that as the winter season is coming, China’s coal price will probably be well sustained for plants will store up coal for heat-generating.

The fact coal price had already posted on the upside early in Middle Sep, when stock volume at Qin Haungdao had also dropped. The uptrend has thereby been sustained. On October 21st high grade mixed coal from Datong remained at CNY 650 per tonne to CNY 660 per tonne. High grade mixed coal from Shanxi remained at CNY 620 per tonne to CNY 630 per tonne. Mixed coal from Shanxi stayed at CNY 540 per tonne to CNY 550 per tonne. Common mixed coal stayed at CNY 460 per tonne to CNY 475 per tonne and that of 4,000 calorie per kilogram stayed at CNY 405 per tonne to CNY 420 per tonne.

As the price edges up, coal stock is declining at the port. By October 19th the volume had stayed at 4.08 million tonnes of which 3.88 million tonnes were of domestic trade and 209,500 tonnes. The volume has been notably lower than the normal level of 5 million tonnes.

Rising demand remains to be the reason why coal price has edged up. Since the holiday stock volume in locally serving power plants has kept rising, by 5.1% from that before the holiday. On October 15th locally serving power plants consumed 1.99 million tonnes of coal, higher than the average 1.96 million tonnes in September underscoring that that real economy is having robust demand for coal.

Statistics of China customs show that on the side of exports, China exported 2.02 million tons of coal in September. The figure is 2.9% lower than the same period of 2008, but marks the lowest monthly drop since 2009. The average monthly drop in the first eight months remained higher than 50%. Export volume of coal came down to the lowest in June which stayed at 1.14 million tonnes. Since then, however, export volume has pointed to growth month by month. By Sep, coal exports had been rising for four straight months.

Analysts said "Low stock volume and rising demand have somehow squeezed coal supply, thus pushing the price up. Q4 is high season for the coal industry. As China as well as the world’s economy improves, foreign demand for coal wills hopeful goes up further, which is expected to prop up both domestic and global coal price in Q4.”

 
 
 
thomas_low
    24-Oct-2009 00:47  
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thomas_low      ( Date: 23-Oct-2009 22:58) Posted:

Ok, enuff s enuff, this one is gonna be ignited, get ready...load and arm, ready to fire...

 

 
thomas_low
    23-Oct-2009 22:58  
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Ok, enuff s enuff, this one is gonna be ignited, get ready...load and arm, ready to fire...
 
 
equator2010
    23-Oct-2009 12:24  
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looks like opportunistic buying to capitalize on future gains ? what say u?


thomas_low      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 22:35) Posted:



 
Filing Date
Asscending OrderDescending Order
Date of Relevant EventAsscending OrderDescending Order
Asscending Order
Descending Order
Individual / Corporate Insider Name Asscending OrderDescending Order
Event Type Asscending OrderDescending Order
# of Shares Bought / Sold / Involved Asscending OrderDescending Order
Unit Price / Average Price
Holding % After Event
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy TSOI MING CHI # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Director Buy CAI SUI XIN # Others 10,900,000 $0.050 SGD 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED Open Market Purchase 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell TSOI MING CHI # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Director Sell CAI SUI XIN # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy TSOI MING CHI Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Director Buy CAI SUI XIN Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 $0.055 SGD 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Director Sell CAI SUI XIN # Others Not Filed $0.065 SGD 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell TSOI MING CHI # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 08/09 Jun 05/09 Director Sell LIM HUI MIN JOHN Sales in Open Market at Own Discretion -180,000 $0.065 SGD 0.00 % Short Position
If everybody owns 40% the company has many hundred %? Bit funny huh, dont worry many big share holders bought at 50 and 65 cents...

 
 
thomas_low
    22-Oct-2009 22:35  
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Filing Date
Asscending OrderDescending Order
Date of Relevant EventAsscending OrderDescending Order
Asscending Order
Descending Order
Individual / Corporate Insider Name Asscending OrderDescending Order
Event Type Asscending OrderDescending Order
# of Shares Bought / Sold / Involved Asscending OrderDescending Order
Unit Price / Average Price
Holding % After Event
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy TSOI MING CHI # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Director Buy CAI SUI XIN # Others 10,900,000 $0.050 SGD 40.48 % Long Position
Sep 16/09 Sep 15/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED Open Market Purchase 10,900,000 Not Filed 40.48 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell TSOI MING CHI # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Director Sell CAI SUI XIN # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Aug 21/09 Aug 03/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.27 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy TSOI MING CHI Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Director Buy CAI SUI XIN Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 $0.055 SGD 40.29 % Long Position
Jul 09/09 Jun 30/09 Substantial Shareholder Buy GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED Open Market Purchase 9,579,000 Not Filed 40.29 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE RESOURCES (HONG KONG) LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell VANTAGE REGION INTERNATIONAL LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Director Sell CAI SUI XIN # Others Not Filed $0.065 SGD 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell TSOI MING CHI # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 17/09 Jun 16/09 Substantial Shareholder Sell GENERAL NICE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED # Others Not Filed Not Filed 40.11 % Long Position
Jun 08/09 Jun 05/09 Director Sell LIM HUI MIN JOHN Sales in Open Market at Own Discretion -180,000 $0.065 SGD 0.00 % Short Position
If everybody owns 40% the company has many hundred %? Bit funny huh, dont worry many big share holders bought at 50 and 65 cents...
 
 
bennykusman
    22-Oct-2009 20:57  
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thanks

risktaker      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 20:07) Posted:

good luck

bennykusman      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 13:12) Posted:

abterra die die must report the quater result by 14 november


 
 
risktaker
    22-Oct-2009 20:07  
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good luck

bennykusman      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 13:12) Posted:

abterra die die must report the quater result by 14 november

 

 
bennykusman
    22-Oct-2009 13:12  
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abterra die die must report the quater result by 14 november
 
 
keepnosecrets
    22-Oct-2009 09:29  
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Could you check when they invested?  Probably a losing position in the meantime.  However, personally this counter will truly present itself as an opportunity realizable in the short and longer term.
 
 
bennykusman
    22-Oct-2009 09:16  
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any url to clarify ?

ianong      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:09) Posted:

UOBAM is holding this fund in UOB United Asian Growth Opportunities fund which invests in asia's SME. It's in top 10 holdings at 40mil shares. I see its potential.

 
 
ianong
    22-Oct-2009 09:09  
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UOBAM is holding this fund in UOB United Asian Growth Opportunities fund which invests in asia's SME. It's in top 10 holdings at 40mil shares. I see its potential.
 
 
dealer0168
    21-Oct-2009 23:13  
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But don't be surprise if it does a Transcu. In this world nothing is impossible.

Cheers.

 



risktaker      ( Date: 21-Oct-2009 09:37) Posted:

from 0.055 to 0.050 .... from 0.050 to 0.045. Then from 0.045 to 0.040..... How many still believe this is going up ?

 
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