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hlfoo2010
    20-Jul-2012 15:30  
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Even while saying that opportunity could perhaps emerge on the coal stocks, I have kept warning that Patriot Coal (PCX) had short term bankruptcy risk, and as thus it had to be avoided. I said this on several articles, most notably on " Patriot Coal Shareholders Should Switch To James River Coal" and " James River Coal: Now Might Be A Good Time To Go To Cash" .

Unfortunately, this risk has now materialized. Yesterday's 72% plunge on PCX stock was a prelude, and soon after the market closed the news was announced: PCX filed chapter 11, after having lined up DIP financing.

This event is a powerful reminder for investors, particularly those who dabble in cyclical stocks: for a shareholder to realize the upside of a cyclical turnaround, the company has to survive the bottom of the cycle. And those that are worst capitalized or higher cost usually don't.

Any investor that chooses to invest in these very though cyclical environments can never take his eyes off this basic reality. He has to check balance sheets current assets and liabilities upcoming debt maturities cash flow generation cash on hand debt covenants etc. Nothing can be left out - particularly a simple Altman Z-Score should not be left out.

This due diligence is necessary not just to establish the likelihood of a near-term bankruptcy, but also to defend against a very powerful psychological mechanism - the mechanism which tells us to buy more to lower our average price on the losing positions and which keeps us from assuming our mistakes and cutting the losses. This is a mechanism that most investors fall prey to, so every measure that can be taken against it should be taken.

It was not a coincidence that I wrote an article saying Patriot Coal shareholders should switch to James River Coal (JRCC). I wrote that article because I knew how hard it would be for someone with deep losses in PCX to get out of the stock. So I put an alternative in the table where someone in that position could avoid being subjected to the near term bankruptcy risk, while keeping a similar upside in another beaten-down, high-risk, coal stock ...

What's there to be learned?

Having arrived at the logical conclusion for Patriot Coal, this should be an important lesson for those who fell prey to it, as well as those that managed to avoid its ultimate fate. Next time, if you can't bring yourself to sell out of a stock with near-term bankruptcy risk, then simply find a very similar stock without that risk and switch into it.

Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours.
 
 
hlfoo2010
    20-Jul-2012 15:16  
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PCX Market Currents more »
  • July 9 Patriot Coal (PCX) confirms an earlier report, announcing it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. The company expects to continue mining operations and customer shipments in ordinary fashion as it goes through reorganization, and has obtained a commitment for $802M in DIP financing. Shares -15% AH after falling 72% in the regular session. (PR) [Breaking News, Energy]


 

THis baby bankrupt , AJ1 is different , u will see the colour  soon. when > > > > > > > > > > ??????????


wanglausern      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 13:28) Posted:

Ain't surprised at all. Three weeks ago Patriot Coal (PCX) listed in NYSE was trading at 2.80 and now collapsed to 23c nia nia.

tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 12:17) Posted:

Very bad. 3rd downward in 2 weeks. Can see $1 very soon.


 
 
rotijai
    20-Jul-2012 14:58  
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when u arent clear with the situation, dont anyhow act hero block the dropping ship...

stevenlim109      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 11:35) Posted:

i cut my genting lose comm, almost buy sakari this morning at 1.28 but i withdraw, should have listen to sifu rotijai advice.


Smokey      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 09:39) Posted:

Possible further down? Thanks Shi f


 

 
wanglausern
    20-Jul-2012 13:28  
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Ain't surprised at all. Three weeks ago Patriot Coal (PCX) listed in NYSE was trading at 2.80 and now collapsed to 23c nia nia.

tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 12:17) Posted:

Very bad. 3rd downward in 2 weeks. Can see $1 very soon.

 
 
tiancai007
    20-Jul-2012 12:17  
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Very bad. 3rd downward in 2 weeks. Can see $1 very soon.
 
 
stevenlim109
    20-Jul-2012 11:35  
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i cut my genting lose comm, almost buy sakari this morning at 1.28 but i withdraw, should have listen to sifu rotijai advice.


Smokey      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 09:39) Posted:

Possible further down? Thanks Shi fu

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 09:36) Posted:



Actually it's quite active. But in a negative manner. Down quite heavy already.

 


 

 
Smokey
    20-Jul-2012 09:39  
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Possible further down? Thanks Shi fu

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 20-Jul-2012 09:36) Posted:



Actually it's quite active. But in a negative manner. Down quite heavy already.

 

oldflyingfox      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 15:58) Posted:

I think most short term traders will be focusing on the 3 IPOs trading next week, so sakari will be quiet down and has a chance to find  the bottom.


 
 
New123
    20-Jul-2012 09:39  
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gone case liao. $1.20 or lower any moment.
 
 
GuavaXF30
    20-Jul-2012 09:36  
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Actually it's quite active. But in a negative manner. Down quite heavy already.

 

oldflyingfox      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 15:58) Posted:

I think most short term traders will be focusing on the 3 IPOs trading next week, so sakari will be quiet down and has a chance to find  the bottom.

 
 
GuavaXF30
    20-Jul-2012 09:33  
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Not short but dfinitely not buying either. Think mid-term will be negative. Already down past 1.30 today. Possible to go below 1.25 by next week.

Smokey      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 09:43) Posted:

Are u in short position on sakari?

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 09:13) Posted:

Some rebound this morning but not very convincing still I feel. May test 1.25 low again as coal market is really dismay at the moment. Even Australia mines may start shutting soon. China already has slowed down mining due to overstocks


 

 
oldflyingfox
    19-Jul-2012 15:58  
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I think most short term traders will be focusing on the 3 IPOs trading next week, so sakari will be quiet down and has a chance to find  the bottom.
 
 
Smokey
    19-Jul-2012 15:55  
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any thoughts on whether Sakari will continue to fall?
 
 
tglim74
    19-Jul-2012 13:04  
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Thanks!

Still hv a lot of things to learn before can get some extra income from the market.  Hope that I won't run out of the bullets before I can see the light at the end of the tunnel... lol
 
 
eurekaw
    19-Jul-2012 12:15  
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Is ok ...can make it back...now definately is not the right time to buy Sakari... more downside to go...dont be tempted to buy any rebound. 

tglim74      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 11:54) Posted:

The amount that lost is significant enough to affect the mood. One of the important lessons learnt from the loss is MUST BE DISCIPLINE.

eurekaw      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 10:22) Posted:

Hope you didnt buy alot


 
 
tglim74
    19-Jul-2012 11:54  
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The amount that lost is significant enough to affect the mood. One of the important lessons learnt from the loss is MUST BE DISCIPLINE.

eurekaw      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 10:22) Posted:

Hope you didnt buy alot

tglim74      ( Date: 18-Jul-2012 22:34) Posted:

This one really broke my heart. Entered at 1.49, exited today at 1.31. If it goes up tomorrow, my heart will further shatter into many tiny pieces... 


 

 
oldflyingfox
    19-Jul-2012 11:00  
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I have also ran away @1.305 yesterday as the volume was very high, I will wait for another 4 to 5 days before consider any new positions.

tglim74      ( Date: 18-Jul-2012 22:34) Posted:

This one really broke my heart. Entered at 1.49, exited today at 1.31. If it goes up tomorrow, my heart will further shatter into many tiny pieces... 

 
 
ozones
    19-Jul-2012 10:32  
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Got too many warrants expiring this year so dont understand y want to play this counterSmiley
 
 
eurekaw
    19-Jul-2012 10:22  
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Hope you didnt buy alot

tglim74      ( Date: 18-Jul-2012 22:34) Posted:

This one really broke my heart. Entered at 1.49, exited today at 1.31. If it goes up tomorrow, my heart will further shatter into many tiny pieces... 

 
 
Smokey
    19-Jul-2012 09:43  
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Are u in short position on sakari?

GuavaXF30      ( Date: 19-Jul-2012 09:13) Posted:

Some rebound this morning but not very convincing still I feel. May test 1.25 low again as coal market is really dismay at the moment. Even Australia mines may start shutting soon. China already has slowed down mining due to overstocks.

tglim74      ( Date: 18-Jul-2012 22:34) Posted:

This one really broke my heart. Entered at 1.49, exited today at 1.31. If it goes up tomorrow, my heart will further shatter into many tiny pieces... 


 
 
GuavaXF30
    19-Jul-2012 09:13  
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Some rebound this morning but not very convincing still I feel. May test 1.25 low again as coal market is really dismay at the moment. Even Australia mines may start shutting soon. China already has slowed down mining due to overstocks.

tglim74      ( Date: 18-Jul-2012 22:34) Posted:

This one really broke my heart. Entered at 1.49, exited today at 1.31. If it goes up tomorrow, my heart will further shatter into many tiny pieces... 

 
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