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parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:45  
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China has 64 million unoccupied housing units????  Wow thats  a lot even considering china has 1.5 billion people as most cannot afford these urban housing.

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:41) Posted:



hopefully, but the main challeage is still

1) 64 million unoccupied units hanging. How the govt going to solve. Alot of DD, but unaffordable. If reduce price, overall market will crash. So a very tricky problem, if not solve probably, things will turn worst.

2) at least commodities are easing. But corn and rice will advance due to over-demsnd. and low production. Corn will in shortage in the 2nd quarter. Rice will increase in price as Thailand is suffering from poor harvest.

niuyear      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:35) Posted:

China's problem 'could be' easing ealier than expected


 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:43  
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later u will see the ss :mia: dd at 3.19 is real, but 3.20 sell is " smoke"
 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:41  
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from how i see, this bb looks like it is trying to push this one up but somewhat  faces  some resistance at 3.19/3.20 level and has been hovering at this level since afternoon trade began.

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:35) Posted:

As a trader, u must unload " some" . then the rest " fight" / is like in casinos. If u win 10k. keep the 5k and the rest try yr " luck" ..who knows , u will win another 5k/.makes u 15k richer. If lose, still got 5k ma.

parimas8      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:31) Posted:

noted. but it is difficult to follow bb's direction. take for example the trade pattern now, they may at the last 15 minute throw out all they have accumulated between 3.11 to 3.15 at 3.16 and still earn good money. 


 

 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:41  
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hopefully, but the main challeage is still

1) 64 million unoccupied units hanging. How the govt going to solve. Alot of DD, but unaffordable. If reduce price, overall market will crash. So a very tricky problem, if not solve probably, things will turn worst.

2) at least commodities are easing. But corn and rice will advance due to over-demsnd. and low production. Corn will in shortage in the 2nd quarter. Rice will increase in price as Thailand is suffering from poor harvest.

niuyear      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:35) Posted:

China's problem 'could be' easing ealier than expected.

Hawkeye      ( Date: 13-May-2011 15:55) Posted:



Theorectically you are right if every country is conservative but the reality is -

The mahjong game someone can produce extra-slab, we call money printing


 
 
Isolator
    13-May-2011 16:39  
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I am all done...  Enjoy...
 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:35  
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As a trader, u must unload " some" . then the rest " fight" / is like in casinos. If u win 10k. keep the 5k and the rest try yr " luck" ..who knows , u will win another 5k/.makes u 15k richer. If lose, still got 5k ma.

parimas8      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:31) Posted:

noted. but it is difficult to follow bb's direction. take for example the trade pattern now, they may at the last 15 minute throw out all they have accumulated between 3.11 to 3.15 at 3.16 and still earn good money. 

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:28) Posted:

just remeber that the price are mostly " control" by the BBs. Traders (small) always predict thier direction. The BBs always set the game of the day. If u bet right, u win. and if against - lose. We will never have the abilty to " beat" against them. THey have huge amount ( at least) 300 million cash. So even all instuition combined, we still inable to beat them. Only, by holding long, BBs could not control us. Only the fundamental of the company could control us.


 

 
niuyear
    13-May-2011 16:35  
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China's problem 'could be' easing ealier than expected.

Hawkeye      ( Date: 13-May-2011 15:55) Posted:



Theorectically you are right if every country is conservative but the reality is -

The mahjong game someone can produce extra-slab, we call money printing.

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 15:49) Posted:



it still depend on the fundamental of China economy.

1) inflation hopefully could be lowered in the 2nd quarter.

2) Interest will be lowered instead of higher as figures showed china will experience slow down.

3) i expect chinese govt will not allow the slowdown- social problems will occur.

4) so, they may decrease interest rate and use their surpluses to jam up. When US is recovering, somewhere in this world will have less funds.

imagine the world is like a mahjong game. It is immposible for 4 players to win money . at least 1 player will lose. Now the loser is US, but when US recovered , some where the funds will have to come out from others.


 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:34  
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yes sir, or at the other end, also learn to humble out and cut loss too.

Isolator      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:33) Posted:

Always must learn to take some profit....

 
 
Isolator
    13-May-2011 16:33  
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Always must learn to take some profit....
 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:31  
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noted. but it is difficult to follow bb's direction. take for example the trade pattern now, they may at the last 15 minute throw out all they have accumulated between 3.11 to 3.15 at 3.16 and still earn good money. 

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:28) Posted:

just remeber that the price are mostly " control" by the BBs. Traders (small) always predict thier direction. The BBs always set the game of the day. If u bet right, u win. and if against - lose. We will never have the abilty to " beat" against them. THey have huge amount ( at least) 300 million cash. So even all instuition combined, we still inable to beat them. Only, by holding long, BBs could not control us. Only the fundamental of the company could control us.

 

 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:28  
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yah lor, esp when trading at such large volume, a 1-cents difference is good enough!

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:22) Posted:

then they will buy back at the amount at lower level. They normally dont hold. Sell at 3.19, buy 3.18. They still earn cos they don pay comm like us. Even they maybe remisier themselves. Save all the commission. 1 cents already got profit. For us at least 2 cents to be break even

parimas8      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:18) Posted:



within 1 minute of 16:15, a total of 255 lots were sold down @ $3.19.  wow, thats  fast. 


 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:28  
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just remeber that the price are mostly " control" by the BBs. Traders (small) always predict thier direction. The BBs always set the game of the day. If u bet right, u win. and if against - lose. We will never have the abilty to " beat" against them. THey have huge amount ( at least) 300 million cash. So even all instuition combined, we still inable to beat them. Only, by holding long, BBs could not control us. Only the fundamental of the company could control us.
 
 
rickyw
    13-May-2011 16:24  
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boss....buyer/seller always same amount of number...it can be yesterday buyer more than 20% or seller also can..

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 15:31) Posted:

in the view point as trader. Just focus on the large amount buy and sale volume. Yesterday there is a huge gap between buyers and sellers. Sellers exceed buyers more than 20% . So alot wonder why there is more sellers than buyers, esp last min sell of 1200++ lots. Fishy . In actual facts, the Bbs had been net buyers last few days. They sold down the price during the days, and buy in large amount in the closing . Yesterday, the large sum is actually " force sell" by the institution, and bought by 1 buyer (Funds).

 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:23  
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thank you for your kind explanation, it is very interesting! i think its happening again now. large sell queue at $3.20 x 1,181 lots whilst buy queue at $3.19 only a mere 10 lots.

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:17) Posted:

missing in action. Large figures if at sell side, makes others to sell at buyer price (long q ma) if on the buy side make u to buy at seller price. The figures are actually q by Bbs to " cloud" the market. But not everytime is accurate. Depends on yr knowledge.

 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:22  
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then they will buy back at the amount at lower level. They normally dont hold. Sell at 3.19, buy 3.18. They still earn cos they don pay comm like us. Even they maybe remisier themselves. Save all the commission. 1 cents already got profit. For us at least 2 cents to be break even

parimas8      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:18) Posted:



within 1 minute of 16:15, a total of 255 lots were sold down @ $3.19.  wow, thats  fast. 

 

 
Isolator
    13-May-2011 16:20  
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Maybe maybe maybe maybe.... lol
 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:19  
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the other possiblity is that the Bbs don want to control the price at their prefer level.
 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:18  
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within 1 minute of 16:15, a total of 255 lots were sold down @ $3.19.  wow, thats  fast. 
 
 
capland
    13-May-2011 16:17  
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missing in action. Large figures if at sell side, makes others to sell at buyer price (long q ma) if on the buy side make u to buy at seller price. The figures are actually q by Bbs to " cloud" the market. But not everytime is accurate. Depends on yr knowledge.
 
 
parimas8
    13-May-2011 16:15  
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whats " mia" sir? 

capland      ( Date: 13-May-2011 16:10) Posted:



" mia" soon. BBs testing 3.20 level. whther the DD is there or not...

 
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