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Wilmar - Watch for a Strong Rally to Come!

You can try. Look at the 20 lots @ $3.15 by director. Do it not hint speculation is going on, while a group of sheeps started to buy in, that resulted today price. Neverless, a sell down will begin. Any amount above $3.15 is speculative.

trading4living      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 19:24) Posted: Share buying back is only one of the indicator maybe the price is  cheap. It doesn't necessary means buying above 3 is expensive.   we should look into the fundamental of the company. Compare with peers example golden agri, noble, indoagri etc in term  of   p/e ratio, debts level. In term of p/e for plantation stocks most are traded at pe of 18 wilmar is only 15. So p/e is quite low. Which is cheaper than peer. Most consumer stocks e.g. delmonte are trading at p/e of 30.... Debts wise wilmar debt level are still manageable compare with Olam. Look at wilmar business model.  MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:13) Posted: Have you ever wonder why director of Wilmar not buying 1000 Lots instead? Because price above $3.15 is not attractive. Wilmar share buyback 7.4 million at $3 previously. As such, market momentum moving well far from $3, and into above even speculation price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come. (Below $3.63, heading towards lower range)

 

Share buying back is only one of the indicator maybe the price is 

cheap. It doesn't necessary means buying above 3 is expensive.

 

1. we should look into the fundamental of the company.
2. Compare with peers example golden agri, noble, indoagri etc in term  of   p/e ratio, debts level.
3. In term of p/e for plantation stocks most are traded at pe of 18 wilmar is only 15. So p/e is quite low. Which is cheaper than peer. Most consumer stocks e.g. delmonte are trading at p/e of 30....
4. Debts wise wilmar debt level are still manageable compare with Olam.
5. Look at wilmar business model. 

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:13) Posted: Have you ever wonder why director of Wilmar not buying 1000 Lots instead? Because price above $3.15 is not attractive. Wilmar share buyback 7.4 million at $3 previously. As such, market momentum moving well far from $3, and into above even speculation price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come. (Below $3.63, heading towards lower range)

 

 

 

 

Bank of America Merrill Lynch upgraded Wilmar from $3.90 to $5.00.

what triggered it?

A recent call for tender by Indonesian's state oil company Pertamina to buy 3 million tonnes of biodiesel in 2014. " The lastest biodiesel policy will benefit it greatly" , but cautioned that a quicker than expected rise in palm oil price or a sharp decline in diesel price would pose risks.

From :Shareinvestor.com news. 

 

cheers, 

Jason at  http://myfcoach.com/  and  http://millionaire-investors.blogspot.sg/

myfcoach      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 12:33) Posted: as you can see, stocks doesn't go up in a straight line....Up retrace abit...forming a higher lows along the way... Fundamentals and Technicals are improving....looks like will retest $3.90...if can break.. hold, cannot break.... sell....also depend on what happens later whether fundamental support for palm oil and sugar still good or not...... China is re-stocking in anticipation of Chinese NewYear...India as well... More catalyst is China govt already said to let " markets" have a bigger role...meaning govt will control less.....Do you know that palm oil and sugar prices are depressed in China due to govt control for many years...so wilmar had a hard time......Volcano would erupt if the govt lid is removed...then commodities firms with exposure in China will really have a sustainable rally...in fact, most of the big players  supply to   China.....Noble, GAR, Olam(cotton) etc. cheers, Jason at http://myfcoach.com/ and http://millionaire-investors.blogspot.sg/ myfcoach      ( Date: 14-Nov-2013 18:47) Posted: well done...finally broke 3.50....my neck quite long liao..

 

For Wilmar, my prediction will be named " The Battle Of Prediction" .
Because of naive remarks from Ynnek1267 & Rayyeo, i have no choice but to revive my prediction for Wilmar (In which within weeks, Wilmar will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount)

ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 18:03) Posted: Hahaha I also notice it. But I think totally opposite, Noble, Wilmar, Olam, Swiber and Ezra will perform well in next 3 month. Follow the wind  trend, follow the big players direction rayyeo      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 17:56) Posted: Strangely, why is MetalTrader so pessimistic on  most of the  stocks? e.g noble, swiber, wilmar etc.? Just puzzled. No offence.

 

Hahaha I also notice it.

But I think totally opposite, Noble, Wilmar, Olam, Swiber and Ezra will perform well in next 3 month.

Follow the wind  trend, follow the big players direction

rayyeo      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 17:56) Posted: Strangely, why is MetalTrader so pessimistic on  most of the  stocks? e.g noble, swiber, wilmar etc.? Just puzzled. No offence.

 

Strangely, why is MetalTrader so pessimistic on  most of the  stocks? e.g noble, swiber, wilmar etc.?

Just puzzled. No offence.

 

At first, you didn't follow directors to buy in at 3.15. Your prediction is already not convincing. Because you practise

3.1, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 2.9

3.3, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.1

3.5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.3

3.61, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.5.

3.8, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.6.

4, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.8.

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5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 4.

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6, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 5.

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Wahahahahahaahahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Prediction???? Play small or big game meh.

Share market is buy low sell high at right time as simple as it is.

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 17:36) Posted: After the market extended gains continuously for a few days, i boldly  predict that 3.63 will not be sustainable, because Shareholder bought at $3. Within weeks, the sell down will begin as more begin to lock in profits.  On 13 Nov, as announced-  Wilmar Director, Mr Kuok Khoon Ean, bought 20,000 shares at  S$3.15 per share.  This is not a huge quantity, basically 20 Lots. My forecast is that may be used for speculation and sell off when the market momentum is high. [From this we know that $3.15 is speculation mark] Prediction (Battle Forecast) On 19 Nov Afternoon (when i forecast $3.63 is not sustainable)- Market closed at $3.62

 

Prove me wrong???? I got my eye to see market trading and will find right timing in and out in next few weeks.

What important is I got non-cash profit and can turn to cash profit after selling it any time. You are still

3.1, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 2.9

3.3, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.1

3.5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.3

3.61, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.5.

3.8, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.6.

4, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.8.

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5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 4.

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6, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 5.

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Wahahahahahaahahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 17:25) Posted: I shall prove you wrong, being naive is of no use. Your 1,2,3,4,5. -1,-2,-3,-5 theory only works in mathematics, but if you want naive theory to be upside while not downside in trading. I am sorry, I will prove you wrong within weeks. My prediction that 3.63 will not be sustainable, because Shareholder bought at $3. Within weeks, the sell down will begin as more begin to lock in profits.You are welcome to challenge my prediction. ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:40) Posted: 3.1, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 2.9 3.3, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.1 3.5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.3 3.61, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.5. 3.8, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.6. 4, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.8. ............................ 5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 4. ............................................ 6, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 5. ................................................ 7, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 6. At then end buy at 7 and gonna tio again Whahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!

 

After the market extended gains continuously for a few days, i boldly  predict that 3.63 will not be sustainable, because Shareholder bought at $3. Within weeks, the sell down will begin as more begin to lock in profits. 

On 13 Nov, as announced-  Wilmar Director, Mr Kuok Khoon Ean, bought 20,000 shares at  S$3.15 per share.  This is not a huge quantity, basically 20 Lots. My forecast is that may be used for speculation and sell off when the market momentum is high. [From this we know that $3.15 is speculation mark]

Prediction (Battle Forecast)
On 19 Nov Afternoon (when i forecast $3.63 is not sustainable)- Market closed at $3.62

 

lol........ Pull in NOL, lose in competition in the  container shipping industry  and dying stock  as example...

Wilmar is the leader in his business like Maersk leading in Container shipping, NOL only one way down.

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 17:17) Posted: Do history relevant to current rate? Look at NOL, 7 years history back $3-4. Now $1. There are also few other counter history price high, but is not relevant tocurrent rate. Same as Wilmar. 1-2 year history may be high, but after revenue dropping for a few years share price is re-evaluated. Director only huge quantity bought at $3.  ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:28) Posted: Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guessing what director is doing and motive behind? They may just buy it because of cheap lah. Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!! Go to look back 1 to 2 year history announcement. Director even bought above 4 dollar loh. Lo

 

I shall prove you wrong, being naive is of no use.
Your 1,2,3,4,5. -1,-2,-3,-5 theory only works in mathematics, but if you want naive theory to be upside while not downside in trading.
I am sorry, I will prove you wrong within weeks.

My prediction that 3.63 will not be sustainable, because Shareholder bought at $3. Within weeks, the sell down will begin as more begin to lock in profits.You are welcome to challenge my prediction.

ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:40) Posted: 3.1, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 2.9 3.3, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.1 3.5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.3 3.61, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.5. 3.8, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.6. 4, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.8. ............................ 5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 4. ............................................ 6, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 5. ................................................ 7, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 6. At then end buy at 7 and gonna tio again Whahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!

 

Do history relevant to current rate?
Look at NOL, 7 years history back $3-4. Now $1. There are also few other counter history price high, but is not relevant tocurrent rate.

Same as Wilmar. 1-2 year history may be high, but after revenue dropping for a few years share price is re-evaluated.
Director only huge quantity bought at $3. 

ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:28) Posted: Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guessing what director is doing and motive behind? They may just buy it because of cheap lah. Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!! Go to look back 1 to 2 year history announcement. Director even bought above 4 dollar loh. Lol MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:13) Posted: Have you ever wonder why director of Wilmar not buying 1000 Lots instead? Because price above $3.15 is not attractive. Wilmar share buyback 7.4 million at $3 previously. As such, market momentum moving well far from $3, and into above even speculation price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come. (Below $3.63, heading towards lower range)

 

3.1, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 2.9

3.3, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.1

3.5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.3

3.61, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.5.

3.8, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.6.

4, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 3.8.

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5, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 4.

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6, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 5.

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7, no no no, price is no attractive, I want 6.

At then end buy at 7 and gonna tio again Whahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!

 

All these  blue chip  company got share bonus granted programme. Share will be given for free as part of their bonus every year loh. 20lots? any retailer can hold 20 lots loh. Wahahahhahaha!!! push up price for the sake of 20 lots when they got more than thousand lots granted above 4 to 6 which were given in the past with lock in period.

Wahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guessing what director is doing and motive behind? They may just buy it because of cheap lah. Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Go to look back 1 to 2 year history announcement. Director even bought above 4 dollar loh. Lol

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 16:13) Posted: Have you ever wonder why director of Wilmar not buying 1000 Lots instead? Because price above $3.15 is not attractive. Wilmar share buyback 7.4 million at $3 previously. As such, market momentum moving well far from $3, and into above even speculation price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come. (Below $3.63, heading towards lower range)

 

War??? are you from kindergarten? Whahahahaha

MetalTrader      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 15:36) Posted: Do you want a war? Based on " My hand, my keyboard, my PC, I type for fun!!!!!" ? ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 10:06) Posted: My hand, my keyboard, my PC, I type for fun!!!!

 

Have you ever wonder why director of Wilmar not buying 1000 Lots instead?
Because price above $3.15 is not attractive. Wilmar share buyback 7.4 million at $3 previously.

As such, market momentum moving well far from $3, and into above even speculation price of $3.15.
The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come. (Below $3.63, heading towards lower range)

 

On 13 Nov, as announced-  Wilmar Director, Mr Kuok Khoon Ean, bought 20,000 shares at S$3.15 per share.
This is not a huge quantity, basically 20 Lots. My forecast is that may be used for speculation and sell off when the market momentum is high.

On 19 Nov, Wilmar shares is up to $3.63 high when market expected the shares to move higher. What does this simplify?
Are the current buyer buying at a price, well above shareholder's speculation and near 52 week high?
Are the price of $3.63 sustainable? I guess not, because market greed will fall together, as well far above shareholder price and the quantity in which shareholder bought isn't huge.

Therefore, the price of $3.63 is not sustainable, & will drop further.

 

Do you want a war?
Based on " My hand, my keyboard, my PC, I type for fun!!!!!" ?

ynnek1267      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 10:06) Posted: My hand, my keyboard, my PC, I type for fun!!!!! Rosesyrup      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 10:01) Posted: His risk appepite, his money,  his decision, he bears the consequences