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choohian
    20-Jul-2007 11:05  
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cks, fairygal, I have a feeling you are looking at the wrong tree/s. Figs grow out from the trunks  about a metre or so from the ground. The tree is about 7-8 ft in height with large roundish leaves. ( I believe ADAM used them). It is a shady tree. As I said, you will find 5-6 trees in the Changi General hospital grounds. I take a SBS No. 9 bus from my place at the Bedok Stadium. As it turns round from Simei Ave., to go to the first stop for the hospital, the trees are aound that corner, in the hospital grounds, across from the A&E, you will see them, although they are away from prying eyes.  
 
 
chinkiasu
    20-Jul-2007 10:56  
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actually on second thot, I need another reference point to pin point the tree...  what would be the distance of the tree relative to the former Asia Civilization Museum?  70m?
 
 
chinkiasu
    20-Jul-2007 10:39  
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Dear fairygal.. ok I go and have another look... there are actually a few carparks opp ROM, three down the slope nearer former Asia Civilisation Museum building (going to be Peranaka Museum). Adjunction to ROM are two car parks. Relative to the ROM building would it 30meters (or ?m) away? What would be the height of this fig tree?
 

 
Fairygal
    20-Jul-2007 09:54  
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cks,

Nope. You've got the wrong tree I think. I went down to check on the status of the fruits and it's there on Tues! Some green, some pinkish! However, you really need to see carefully, cos it's small and high up on the tree. Not directly in front of the ROM. It's in the carpark opp ROM, and within the carpark, it's in the middle on a slope. Not properly groomed around, like some tiny piece of forest! Yes, you are right. The Cantonese add these figs with chicken to boil soup.....yummy and nutritious!
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    20-Jul-2007 09:16  
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Chinkiasu... :) ...
I can see you are the intellectual type who also probes deeply into things you believe in.


Thanks for the explanation of the word meanings. (I myself have so many dictionaries of all sizes which I have accumulated through the yich are ears and which I am too lazy too use).

Personally, I am the least interested to change others to my way of seeing things (beliefs).
One can argue and split hair until the devils come home, yet can't agree a molecule.


All of us have beliefs which are the result of our past experience in living.
So the longer we live, the more we learn (hopefully) ... Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    20-Jul-2007 08:57  
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Hi Skeleton... :)

Please don't feel 'out of place' at all... you are doing fine, Sir...
Like everyone else, you are also part of this forum... and your participation is very good...  Smiley

 

 
skeleton
    20-Jul-2007 04:49  
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Haha..Chinkiasu, after going thru 30 listed companies' background and record trying to figure out how to make some calculated risky money, surprise to find your posting here at such hour, i really salute u man Smiley

Interesting topic, never realised that in SJ, i can get to learn other matters besides financial related matters, a good forum for wide spread of knowlegde to be attained with so many hiden talents indeed.Smiley

From what u have replied, i guess i am more an Atheist...haha...for my own personal reasons...hope my uninvited reply would not cause any serious disruption in your friendly debate with other fellow forumers.Smiley

Cheers

Smiley
 
 
chinkiasu
    20-Jul-2007 03:17  
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And now for my dear Mani,

Yoda I am using a separate reply to your post on this subject.  It would appear to me that you keep wanting to discuss about this topic but I let me throw you some comments and questions. 

First I thank you for your kind words "Your faith is obvious... and that is something so personal to the individual...that no one should attempt to 'shake' that belief on a personal level. ";  ImageBut I have to point out that this statement is actually irrelevant.  I am not the one to initiate discussion on this subject and have not nor is there any need to prove my faith nor am I worried about anyone trying to attempt to " 'shake' that belief ". 

As you said that you "do not know the actual definition of the terms "Agnostic or Atheist" "... I should state it for you:

An Atheist is a person who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

An Agnostic is

a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.

b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
pls note that an agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist. The term agnostic was coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge.
 
Mani... given the above defination how should we interpret your statement that "I would object strongly to being  labelled as agnostic/atheist"? 


Secondly, when you say and I quote:

"On the question of believing in things, if something is one's chosen belief, then one must not question further to 'know the truth'...Because the very nature of belief itself forbids further questioning..."

I disagree with the statement. Believing in God does not mean commiting intellectual suicide and does not mean that one should stop questioning. When you say "I am very much into living the ideas of  Buddhism and the Tao itself, especially the latter, since its principles are universally applicable and thus everlastingare you not making an assumption and holding a belief ?  Is this consistent with your statement and I quote " Though I am not a believer in an external 'supreme living person' out there, I  am very much into spiritual  living as a person, as opposed to unquestioning belief in any propounded ideas."

btw what is "spiritual living" does this mean you have a spirit or is this not a belief ? Image
 
 
chinkiasu
    20-Jul-2007 03:16  
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wao..  skeleton and Asterisk!! I am impressed.. still on night watch...!

 
 
 
skeleton
    20-Jul-2007 02:36  
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Smiley

wah, u guys really nite owls Smiley

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chinkiasu
    20-Jul-2007 01:50  
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Hi folks, this is yet again the night watch...Image  ..

First, thanks Asterisks.. I am ok...did managed to pick up some more LMA, FibreChem, Trek..

and singaporegal.. your presence here is also critical to the fellowship vibrancy... btw,  I noted you do not really fancy being called Da Jie Jie, so it sets me wondering how you look...  perhaps how about this Image  ?  Re your love of things historical..  what do you think of Machu picchu...? or Petra?

Lausk22... your signing off and mention of 30 ladyships to awaiting your guidance sets me wondering... care to elaborate your job..  you are in charge of a banking branch? or call centre? or boss of travel agency? or? 

and Skeleton.. interestng reason for choice of this nick... tks..  hmm retired and you like to travel too, could share some stories of places you visited?

Hey Chin Chye.. fancy meeting you here, welcome...  sorry I have stopped using nokia some time ago.. now using a samsung.. perhaps other can help you with your question...
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    20-Jul-2007 00:08  
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EastonBay... :)


A great poem ... highly beneficial !... Smiley

 
 
lausk22
    20-Jul-2007 00:04  
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Mani ...my pal..;)


need to hit the sack....for 30 ladyships waiting for my guidance tomorrow ;) goodnite...amen.

 
 
 
EastonBay
    20-Jul-2007 00:03  
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Lausk, thanks for responding to my request for a poem... I LIKE IT!!! Thot I better remember to say something tonight or you may not entertain my future request for more poems! 10Q! A good one! Gan Pei (ok, this is supposed to be a private thing btw you and ipunter, but who cares!)

To the rest who might have missed Lausk's poem, it's here.

EastonBay....at your request how about these verses...

When the market is a sea of red

Please don?t fret

But take time to lay your bet

On whatever good stock you can get

Do not forget

High prices need to correct

Back to certain level that?s not bad

Then bargain stocks will be widespread

For clever savvy fishermen to catch

So again, please don?t fret

This is a golden time to make extra bread

When the market is a sea of red!
 
 
lausk22
    20-Jul-2007 00:00  
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Mani ...my pal..;)

From our multiple exchanges of pleasantries, I hope no one will suspect that we have just returned from a soujourn at Brokeback Mt...;) yum seng ..yum seng...yum seng
 

 
Manikamaniko.
    19-Jul-2007 23:52  
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Lausk22... :)


hahaha...
I've  always treated Singaporegal as our "Gu Piao Da JieJie".  ... Smiley

Zai lai yi bei...
 
 
lausk22
    19-Jul-2007 23:37  
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Mani ...my pal..;)

From your multiple posts to a lady, u appear to be in luv...;) with someone
 
 
lausk22
    19-Jul-2007 23:19  
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Mani ...my pal..;)
Lets hope we'll be able to intimately understand our mutual motivations and aspirations, as well as each other in our continuous journey in SJ as great pals....;).
 
 
Manikamaniko.
    19-Jul-2007 23:12  
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Lausk22... :)

Thank you... Smiley ... zai gan bei...

 
 
lausk22
    19-Jul-2007 23:04  
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Mani ...my pal..;)

May you reach the Zenith in your search for the essence of Zen!!! nam mo or le tor fatt
 
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