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Must have guts to enter the market la... I bought at 1.79 sold at 1.85 ....
How to do that?
des_khor ( Date: 16-Oct-2008 10:52) Posted:
just make few hundred bucks .... |
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just make few hundred bucks ....
What the target price?
support point at 1.85 is broken, next strong support point is at 0.95...... wow..... as you can see from the chart, they run from 1.00 all the way to 3.00 non-stop... oh dear... this is going to be ugly.. zooming down to 1.00.... yes.... we can buy and hold and eat dividend for our rest of life , LOL... patience!
Big selling down.
Was searching for the latest statements for SembMarine and spotted the error in their investor relations page. 2007 instead of 2008. But we digress..this is not impt.
See below: Net Profit Margin at 9.6% ( Compare with Cosco's 18%!)
See below: Current Asset(CA) greater then Current Liabilities(CL)! (while Cosco's CA is lower than CL)
See Below: Since Sembmarine's bulk of its business comes from Rigbuilding, we decided to look at the utilization rates (2nd light blue table below) of rigs world wide to try to infer activity which is related with the demand for rigs. Well Well Well..so far so good, no dip in utilization rates (in fact it has increased, slightly, now at 89% vs 87.5% a month ago, hmm even though the price of oil has gone down!).


Really, SembMarine to SGDividends is So So..not good not bad..not here not there...but it will definitely be out of our watchlist. Its average fundamentally, we think!
Is all Shipping Counter dropping like Cosco? What is a good price for SembMar? It seem to drop alot today like Cosco. Why?
When CO declines, oil rigs projects would be affected. Analysts claimed.
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Date of Purchases |
11-09-2008 |
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2a |
Total number of shares purchased |
2,384,000 |
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2b |
Number of shares cancelled |
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2c |
Number of shares held as treasury shares |
13,693,177 |
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3a |
Price paid per share# or |
Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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Amount :
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3b |
Highest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.39
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Amount :
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Lowest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.26
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Amount :
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4 |
Total consideration (including stamp duties, clearing charges, etc) paid or payable for the shares# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 7,972,437.90
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Amount :
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Cumulative no. of shares purchased to-date 2 |
11,806,000 |
0.573% |
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11,806,000 |
0.573% |
1 |
Date of Purchases |
10-09-2008 |
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2a |
Total number of shares purchased |
503,000 |
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2b |
Number of shares cancelled |
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2c |
Number of shares held as treasury shares |
13,190,177 |
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3a |
Price paid per share# or |
Currency : S$
Amount :
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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3b |
Highest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.39
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Amount :
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Lowest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.33
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Amount :
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4 |
Total consideration (including stamp duties, clearing charges, etc) paid or payable for the shares# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 1,697,616.12
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Amount :
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Cumulative no. of shares purchased to-date 2 |
9,422,000 |
0.457 % |
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9,422,000 |
0.457 % |
08 Sep 2008
Sembcorp Marine’s PPL Shipyard has won a US$425 mln contract to build two jack-up rigs for Egyptian Offshore Drilling Company SAE.
1. |
Date of change of Interest |
03-09-2008 |
2. |
Name of Registered Holder |
Ngiam Joke Mui |
3. |
Circumstance(s) giving rise to the interest or change in interest |
Open Market Purchase |
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# Please specify details |
Purchase 20,000 Sembcorp Marine shares @ average price of $3.64 per share. |
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4. |
Information relating to shares held in the name of the Registered Holder |
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No. of Shares held before the change |
157,500 |
As a percentage of issued share capital |
0.008 % |
No. of Shares which are subject of this notice |
20,000 |
As a percentage of issued share capital |
0.001 % |
Amount of consideration (excluding brokerage and stamp duties) per share paid or received |
3.64 |
No. of Shares held after the change |
177,500 |
As a percentage of issued share capital |
0.009 % |
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1 |
Date of Purchases |
15-08-2008 |
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2a |
Total number of shares purchased |
109,000 |
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2b |
Number of shares cancelled |
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2c |
Number of shares held as treasury shares |
16,714,690 |
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3a |
Price paid per share# or |
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3b |
Highest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.79
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Amount :
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Lowest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.77
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Amount :
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4 |
Total consideration (including stamp duties, clearing charges, etc) paid or payable for the shares# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 413,368.60
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount
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Based on my example, the employee/director pays only $1.00.....their option price.
From the Co. point of view, if they issue new shares for this option, then the $2.00 will be treated as an expense.
If the Co. issues the shares from their Treasury Share A/C (which they bought back earlier and placed it into Treasury), and if they bought it for $2.00, then they will charge the difference of the cost of the Treasury share ($2.00) and the exercise price ($1.00)....i.e. expense to the Co. will be $1.00 ($$2.00 - $1.00).
Think this is basically how it works.
HLJHLJ ( Date: 14-Aug-2008 21:12) Posted:
Thanks. This is the first time i learnt this and from you. I got it now.
In other words, it is better to exercise their options at a price nearer to the option pr, and expect a breakout up to very high level. Then it is the most optimal, pay lower tax, and enjoy higher capital gain.
1 qn: Do they have to pay the $2 difference to company when exercising. I think don't need, right? because it is an option.
shplayer ( Date: 14-Aug-2008 10:10) Posted:
Besides share buybacks, one should also pay attention to directors's transactions.
Yesterday, SGX announced 4 directors exercising their share options. The significance of this may indicate they feel that the share price may be bottoming out (at least in the short term).
The reason being, profits on share options are taxable based on the date of exercising the option. i.e. say the exercise price is $1.00 and the share price closes at $3.00 on the exercise date. The difference of $2.00 ($3.00 - $1.00) is taxable as earned income. So, it makes sense to try to keep the difference between the market price on the option date and the option price at a minimum. If he/she eventually sells the stock at $4.50, then the difference of $1.50 ($4.50 - $3.00) is considered capital gains and not taxable. |
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1 |
Date of Purchases |
13-08-2008 |
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2a |
Total number of shares purchased |
136,000 |
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2b |
Number of shares cancelled |
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2c |
Number of shares held as treasury shares |
18,390,688 |
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3a |
Price paid per share# or |
Currency : S$
Amount :
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Amount :
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3b |
Highest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.67
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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Lowest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.66
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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4 |
Total consideration (including stamp duties, clearing charges, etc) paid or payable for the shares# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 499,418.21
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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Thanks. This is the first time i learnt this and from you. I got it now.
In other words, it is better to exercise their options at a price nearer to the option pr, and expect a breakout up to very high level. Then it is the most optimal, pay lower tax, and enjoy higher capital gain.
1 qn: Do they have to pay the $2 difference to company when exercising. I think don't need, right? because it is an option.
shplayer ( Date: 14-Aug-2008 10:10) Posted:
Besides share buybacks, one should also pay attention to directors's transactions.
Yesterday, SGX announced 4 directors exercising their share options. The significance of this may indicate they feel that the share price may be bottoming out (at least in the short term).
The reason being, profits on share options are taxable based on the date of exercising the option. i.e. say the exercise price is $1.00 and the share price closes at $3.00 on the exercise date. The difference of $2.00 ($3.00 - $1.00) is taxable as earned income. So, it makes sense to try to keep the difference between the market price on the option date and the option price at a minimum. If he/she eventually sells the stock at $4.50, then the difference of $1.50 ($4.50 - $3.00) is considered capital gains and not taxable. |
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yoh tks, learn something new about taxes. for sure AK no need to pay income tax for 2009 income return.
ha ha AK small fly lah, optionless to buy and sell.
may be one fine day loh. cheers.
Besides share buybacks, one should also pay attention to directors's transactions.
Yesterday, SGX announced 4 directors exercising their share options. The significance of this may indicate they feel that the share price may be bottoming out (at least in the short term).
The reason being, profits on share options are taxable based on the date of exercising the option. i.e. say the exercise price is $1.00 and the share price closes at $3.00 on the exercise date. The difference of $2.00 ($3.00 - $1.00) is taxable as earned income. So, it makes sense to try to keep the difference between the market price on the option date and the option price at a minimum. If he/she eventually sells the stock at $4.50, then the difference of $1.50 ($4.50 - $3.00) is considered capital gains and not taxable.
1 |
Date of Purchases |
12-08-2008 |
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2a |
Total number of shares purchased |
1,479,000 |
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2b |
Number of shares cancelled |
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2c |
Number of shares held as treasury shares |
18,254,688 |
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3a |
Price paid per share# or |
Currency : S$
Amount :
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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3b |
Highest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.80
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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Lowest price per share# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 3.70
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Currency : [Select Currency]
Amount :
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4 |
Total consideration (including stamp duties, clearing charges, etc) paid or payable for the shares# |
Currency : S$
Amount : 5,578,440.57
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Amount :
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