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Interesting discussion on the direction of CO price.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29614134
CO April future, up 7 cts to 47.14. DJ now up 280. A good buffer for the market ahead at DJ,but worry d tech rebound may not sustainable for long.
Nowadays, sell in small strength also jadi liao. Cheers.
I dont believe too at 1.7!
lookcc ( Date: 10-Mar-2009 22:35) Posted:
waited for sgd1.70 n now missed boat again but will still wait for 1.70
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 23:49) Posted:
How did you arrive at the figure? I would think that it is possible, but not probable. I would dare say that on March 31 1705hrs it wont be $1.70 (give and take $0.10). Not even if STI1200. till then we will know ba. cheers all.
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missed boat but happy 4 u.
Low vol, not much players. Once BBs see there is uptrend on ds burger, they will trigger d game mechanism.
waited for sgd1.70 n now missed boat again but will still wait for 1.70
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 23:49) Posted:
How did you arrive at the figure? I would think that it is possible, but not probable. I would dare say that on March 31 1705hrs it wont be $1.70 (give and take $0.10). Not even if STI1200. till then we will know ba. cheers all.
lookcc ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 18:36) Posted:
| $1.70 a high possibility b4 end tis mth.
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Hope in the near future, even all the every "
ulu2 tempats" are served by cheap satellite broadband... but actually, this is a certainty.. only in time...
As some of d sifu said earlier, ds burger is a good counter to play with. It is my pest as well, but sometime neglected it leh.
It went up to 2.8x while AK was in kampong during CNY vacation. Didn't do anything, no online trade avail.
Came back it alrdy dropped to 2.66, cleared a dozen n keep some.
Last week n yesterday, acc few more only, as still forbial with d market sentiment loh,esp kena d UOB, ha ha.
Recall I’ve been saying we’re in the timeframe for an important low in oil? See article and my comments below. – Larry
Bullish on Oil
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aPwgg8LlzGbI
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html
While market prices are drastically lower than their July 2008 prices, crude prices have rallied in the last week to post gains of almost 30%. The Brent spot price is currently at $44.38 and is forecast to breach $50/bbl. The current rally was sparked by China’s decision to take advantage of low prices and build its reserve stockpile and expectations that OPEC will further cut output.
My Opinion: More gains coming for oil. Technicals are supportive, and so is OPEC, which is expected to soon cut oil production again. Meanwhile, the oil and energy sector is extremely undervalued, with many oil companies trading at levels that value their proven oil reserves at as little as $5 a barrel. Once the broader stock markets bottom, which I expect to occur very soon, oil and energy stocks may turn out to be the best plays, extremely profitable. Keep an eye out for signals in my Real Wealth Report.
richtan ( Date: 10-Mar-2009 11:33) Posted:
| Bullish on Oil
by Larry Edelson on March 9, 2009
in Energy Sector Investing
Recall I’ve been saying we’re in the timeframe for an important low in oil? See article and my comments below. – Larry
Bullish on Oil
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aPwgg8LlzGbI
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html
While market prices are drastically lower than their July 2008 prices, crude prices have rallied in the last week to post gains of almost 30%. The Brent spot price is currently at $44.38 and is forecast to breach $50/bbl. The current rally was sparked by China’s decision to take advantage of low prices and build its reserve stockpile and expectations that OPEC will further cut output.
My Opinion: More gains coming for oil. Technicals are supportive, and so is OPEC, which is expected to soon cut oil production again. Meanwhile, the oil and energy sector is extremely undervalued, with many oil companies trading at levels that value their proven oil reserves at as little as $5 a barrel. Once the broader stock markets bottom, which I expect to occur very soon, oil and energy stocks may turn out to be the best plays, extremely profitable. Keep an eye out for signals in my Real Wealth Report.
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Bullish on Oil
by Larry Edelson on March 9, 2009
in Energy Sector Investing
Recall I’ve been saying we’re in the timeframe for an important low in oil? See article and my comments below. – Larry
Bullish on Oil
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aPwgg8LlzGbI
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html
While market prices are drastically lower than their July 2008 prices, crude prices have rallied in the last week to post gains of almost 30%. The Brent spot price is currently at $44.38 and is forecast to breach $50/bbl. The current rally was sparked by China’s decision to take advantage of low prices and build its reserve stockpile and expectations that OPEC will further cut output.
My Opinion: More gains coming for oil. Technicals are supportive, and so is OPEC, which is expected to soon cut oil production again. Meanwhile, the oil and energy sector is extremely undervalued, with many oil companies trading at levels that value their proven oil reserves at as little as $5 a barrel. Once the broader stock markets bottom, which I expect to occur very soon, oil and energy stocks may turn out to be the best plays, extremely profitable. Keep an eye out for signals in my Real Wealth Report.
AK guesses, he uses d px of 1.77 as yalkstick while STI clocked yr low of 1472.77
Today, STI shed to 1456.95(5 n a half yr low), theoritically it is not surprise if SPC px below 1.77. Instead, it closed much higher at 2.37 today.
I hv 31 stocks under my monitoring list, 18 of them px are still well above those clocked during last yr low of 1472.77, ie SingTel, Yangzi, Wilmar,Venture, STengr,SIA, Kepcorp, Hyflux, Cosco,Noble, Biosen etc. Of course, no eye see d bank & ppty counters.
Your deduction is not wrong as well, as u may also hv observed that not all counters are following d domino effect.
Hope for d best loh. As most of us wish d market pull d handbrake n U turn ma. Cheers.
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 23:49) Posted:
How did you arrive at the figure? I would think that it is possible, but not probable. I would dare say that on March 31 1705hrs it wont be $1.70 (give and take $0.10). Not even if STI1200. till then we will know ba. cheers all.
lookcc ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 18:36) Posted:
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How did you arrive at the figure? I would think that it is possible, but not probable.
I would dare say that on March 31 1705hrs it wont be $1.70 (give and take $0.10). Not even if STI1200.
till then we will know ba. cheers all.
lookcc ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 18:36) Posted:
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One is wrong and the other is partially right
AK_Francis ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 10:19) Posted:
One stone 2 chickens, plant due for servicing as well.
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 10:14) Posted:
| I think you got the direction wrong. I would think that they are shutting down because their earnings are already affected. By shutting down production they can cut operating costs. Either way it is negative news i guess. March 15 we will know if OPEC can lift oil prices up despite the abundance of so much oil in storage.
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$1.70 a high possibility b4 end tis mth.
One is wrong and the other is partially right
AK_Francis ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 10:19) Posted:
One stone 2 chickens, plant due for servicing as well.
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 10:14) Posted:
| I think you got the direction wrong. I would think that they are shutting down because their earnings are already affected. By shutting down production they can cut operating costs. Either way it is negative news i guess. March 15 we will know if OPEC can lift oil prices up despite the abundance of so much oil in storage.
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One stone 2 chickens, plant due for servicing as well.
gregorsamsa ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 10:14) Posted:
I think you got the direction wrong. I would think that they are shutting down because their earnings are already affected. By shutting down production they can cut operating costs. Either way it is negative news i guess. March 15 we will know if OPEC can lift oil prices up despite the abundance of so much oil in storage.
shplayer ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 09:40) Posted:
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Firmer SPC share price due to firmer CO price is probbly short term.
Fundamental is there is still too much CO supply in the market and prices are being propped up by oil majors (read Exxon, BP, Shell) by hoarding. This cannot last indefinitely cos there is a cost to hoard.....(storage costs)....and when this start to mount, hoarders will liquidate the supply. This happened in 2008 (see my post in this thread on 2 Jun 08) and the rest is history.
Furthermore, SRC (SPC's 50% owned refinery) is reported to be shutting down 50% of its capacity for 1 month from mid March09......this will certainly affect SPC's earnings.
Of course, for TA practioners, SPC's volitility presents opportunities. |
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I think you got the direction wrong. I would think that they are shutting down because their earnings are already affected. By shutting down production they can cut operating costs. Either way it is negative news i guess. March 15 we will know if OPEC can lift oil prices up despite the abundance of so much oil in storage.
shplayer ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 09:40) Posted:
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Firmer SPC share price due to firmer CO price is probbly short term.
Fundamental is there is still too much CO supply in the market and prices are being propped up by oil majors (read Exxon, BP, Shell) by hoarding. This cannot last indefinitely cos there is a cost to hoard.....(storage costs)....and when this start to mount, hoarders will liquidate the supply. This happened in 2008 (see my post in this thread on 2 Jun 08) and the rest is history.
Furthermore, SRC (SPC's 50% owned refinery) is reported to be shutting down 50% of its capacity for 1 month from mid March09......this will certainly affect SPC's earnings.
Of course, for TA practioners, SPC's volitility presents opportunities.
AK_Francis ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 00:30) Posted:
| CO future up, look like ds burger will stay firm, when market opens at 9. |
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Ha ha, no thinking is required. Had been short term trading for ds burger, with tight monitoring of d CO px n global demand n OPEC indented move to influence d CO px. Basically, Buy n Sell. Bai Shei ah. Nowadays, not easy to ear even Teh-Sarabat loh.
shplayer ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 09:40) Posted:
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Firmer SPC share price due to firmer CO price is probbly short term.
Fundamental is there is still too much CO supply in the market and prices are being propped up by oil majors (read Exxon, BP, Shell) by hoarding. This cannot last indefinitely cos there is a cost to hoard.....(storage costs)....and when this start to mount, hoarders will liquidate the supply. This happened in 2008 (see my post in this thread on 2 Jun 08) and the rest is history.
Furthermore, SRC (SPC's 50% owned refinery) is reported to be shutting down 50% of its capacity for 1 month from mid March09......this will certainly affect SPC's earnings.
Of course, for TA practioners, SPC's volitility presents opportunities.
AK_Francis ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 00:30) Posted:
| CO future up, look like ds burger will stay firm, when market opens at 9. |
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Firmer SPC share price due to firmer CO price is probbly short term.
Fundamental is there is still too much CO supply in the market and prices are being propped up by oil majors (read Exxon, BP, Shell) by hoarding. This cannot last indefinitely cos there is a cost to hoard.....(storage costs)....and when this start to mount, hoarders will liquidate the supply. This happened in 2008 (see my post in this thread on 2 Jun 08) and the rest is history.
Furthermore, SRC (SPC's 50% owned refinery) is reported to be shutting down 50% of its capacity for 1 month from mid March09......this will certainly affect SPC's earnings.
Of course, for TA practioners, SPC's volitility presents opportunities.
AK_Francis ( Date: 09-Mar-2009 00:30) Posted:
| CO future up, look like ds burger will stay firm, when market opens at 9. |
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CO future up, look like ds burger will stay firm, when market opens at 9.
