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Not found any Singapore brokerage willing to offer 0.01% transaction and brokerage fees. The lowest commission that I know is 0.1% and most players (excluding remisier trading on his own). In many exchanges, it could be as low as $7 per transaction. Thus whether you selling or buying 1 share or 10 million shares it is just only $7. Two ways very most $14. We in Singapore cannot do it. Min brokerage is $25 and the more you buy or sell, the more you pay for the transaction which I think is ridiculous because no extra service is being provided by an increased transaction. Very cut throat Singaporeans or who?
wanglausern ( Date: 04-Sep-2012 02:17) Posted:
Commission for share trading is so much cheaper than casino-betting.
Commission for share trading can go as low as .01% whereas average commission at casinos is about 2.35%.
Bopanha ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:21) Posted:
Brokerage commissions are devised in such a way, yes..the higher the value transacted the higher the rates. So it is advisable to look at this area. Recently when my trade made gross 3 cents, I only get less than $250 for 20 lots. That mean out of gross profit of $600, your brokerage makes more than you. It is a very difficult game to play.
Short sellers usually borrow stocks to short, so the time to cover is not so tight. Long buyers must look for money to pick up the stocks so there is some difference in advantage here, see?
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In casinos, once lose straightaway capital gone but in shares still can hold on & wait unless cut loss but still can keep some capital.
Will enter soon since supporting well around $1.30 recently. Don't know when it will move but hopefully have luck again like Sakari, cheong up in 2 days.
Need a little bit push and Genting SP will move.
So far chart show a little bit bullish signal for short trade but must quick in quick out.
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-stocks/genting-singapore/genting-short-term-bullish-trade/wesely2k ( Date: 04-Sep-2012 05:03) Posted:
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Si liao, bo jalan.
I totally disagree with you that betting in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos.
Tell me, how many have committed suicide betting in stocks and how many have killed themselves from gambling in casinos?
iPunter ( Date: 01-Sep-2012 15:00) Posted:
In many ways, betting in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos.
A classic case is when a newbie happily buys a stock at its peak thinking that he/she
has netted a good deal, since everyone is bullish over the top and then got the shock
of his.her life when it falls drastically as the weeks and months go by. Whereas
in casino betting, he/she will know instantly that a lot of money is lost.
In both cases, he/she will of course try hard to win back what is lost... 
junction ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 22:04) Posted:
| You're saying investing in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos? Wow, that's something! |
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Commission for share trading is so much cheaper than casino-betting.
Commission for share trading can go as low as .01% whereas average commission at casinos is about 2.35%.
Bopanha ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:21) Posted:
Brokerage commissions are devised in such a way, yes..the higher the value transacted the higher the rates. So it is advisable to look at this area. Recently when my trade made gross 3 cents, I only get less than $250 for 20 lots. That mean out of gross profit of $600, your brokerage makes more than you. It is a very difficult game to play.
Short sellers usually borrow stocks to short, so the time to cover is not so tight. Long buyers must look for money to pick up the stocks so there is some difference in advantage here, see?
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“Anytime they’re putting more money into the economy, it’s good news for gold,” said Dan Denbow, a fund manager at the $1.8 billion USAA Precious Metals & Minerals Fund in San Antonio. The outlook for monetary stimulus “allows the risk-on trade to come back in to the market.” Bloomberg,Elizabeth Campbell, 3 September 2012. When the US print more more , this usually bodes well for gold.
This had happened in the past. It seems to be a recurring theme. A good gold investor will have to know about
gold's relationship to the US currency.
Yes, sifu... That is the problem...
And it is the reason why I have always said to treat all trade position as bets.
If one treats it as a bet, when one loses, one is "
kam guan" (satisfied).
If one treats it as gospel (ie. must be right no matter what), then one is prone to lose heavily.
This is because when one believes that one is right, one will be "
mm kam guan" ,
regardless of the reality of the situation. This is the main cause of big losses.
It is always that hope that kills him most. If he did not have a hope, he merely gets hurt but not killed. Lol.
iPunter ( Date: 01-Sep-2012 15:00) Posted:
In many ways, betting in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos.
A classic case is when a newbie happily buys a stock at its peak thinking that he/she
has netted a good deal, since everyone is bullish over the top and then got the shock
of his.her life when it falls drastically as the weeks and months go by. Whereas
in casino betting, he/she will know instantly that a lot of money is lost.
In both cases, he/she will of course try hard to win back what is lost...
junction ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 22:04) Posted:
| You're saying investing in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos? Wow, that's something! |
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In the light of the latest government move to limit the number of singaporeans visiting the casinos, will they impose $100 each time one trades and investigate those who trade 5 times or more per month? All traders vanish lah!
iPunter ( Date: 01-Sep-2012 15:00) Posted:
In many ways, betting in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos.
A classic case is when a newbie happily buys a stock at its peak thinking that he/she
has netted a good deal, since everyone is bullish over the top and then got the shock
of his.her life when it falls drastically as the weeks and months go by. Whereas
in casino betting, he/she will know instantly that a lot of money is lost.
In both cases, he/she will of course try hard to win back what is lost...
junction ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 22:04) Posted:
| You're saying investing in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos? Wow, that's something! |
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In many ways, betting in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos.
A classic case is when a newbie happily buys a stock
at its peak thinking that he/she
has netted a good deal, since everyone is bullish over the top and then got the shock
of his.her life when it falls drastically as the weeks and months go by. Whereas
in casino betting, he/she will know instantly that a lot of money is lost.
In both cases, he/she will of course try hard to win back what is lost...
junction ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 22:04) Posted:
You're saying investing in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos? Wow, that's something!
iPunter ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 14:39) Posted:
Stock newbies are usually poor things (pitiful) when they lose their hard-earned savings...
They ase usually very gian-gian to make a lot of money, so they are prone to trust
respectable forum members whom they believe. But it is best if newbies can treat the
stock market purely as betting, and not a trust-worthy way to grow one's money.
They must remind themselves why brokers all show them a risk disclosure when
they start to play. Newbies must realise that the stock market is not your friend -
it is a very risky place. And no one will care a bit when you lose all your money...
But betting (just like in a casino) is okay, as long as long as you do it with eyes open... |
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Alamak !
Somepeople like : Cognac
Somepeople like : Whisky
Somepeople like : Red Wine
Somepeople like : Beer
So how to define???
As long as you know how to taste it.
Somepeople shout for UP & somepeople shout for Down,
as long as you earn so who care?
不 要 太 认 真 ， 也 不 要 太 在 意 ， 只 要 能 在 股 海 翻 腾 的 人 都 有 一 点 小 钱 ， 只 要 赚 得 开 心 ， 输 的 开 心 ，
管 它 是 洋 酒 ， 威 士 忌 ， 红 酒 ， 还 是 啤 酒 。 。 。 只 要 会 品 尝 都 是 好 酒 ！
You're saying investing in stocks is more risky than betting in casinos? Wow, that's something!
iPunter ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 14:39) Posted:
Stock newbies are usually poor things (pitiful) when they lose their hard-earned savings...
They ase usually very gian-gian to make a lot of money, so they are prone to trust
respectable forum members whom they believe. But it is best if newbies can treat the
stock market purely as betting, and not a trust-worthy way to grow one's money.
They must remind themselves why brokers all show them a risk disclosure when
they start to play. Newbies must realise that the stock market is not your friend -
it is a very risky place. And no one will care a bit when you lose all your money...
But betting (just like in a casino) is okay, as long as long as you do it with eyes open...
rotijai ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 14:22) Posted:
u don even know wat day is today.. so dont anyhow make claims pls :)
if u are new to the market, welcome ur opinions but dont mislead other newbs : |
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Forum is good for thrashing things out, ie. explaining, clarify any misunderstandings, apologise, etc.
As long as don't "
gado-gado" until red face, will be okay...
If not, all the newbies will "
ketawa" (laugh)... lol...
u arent wrong.
i just wanna highlight that most funds have rules that the FMs have to follow, not like retailer can anyhow buy/sell :)
gsp is a STI stock, one of the more reliable stocks (DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL FLY), of course most FMs will have a piece on it :)
cashiertan ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:48) Posted:
also if the fund managers decided to adjust into Genting and adjust out from other counter also means the Funds manager see something which he likes about genting for them to adjust in. which idiot will adjust into a falling knives stocks?
rotijai ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:40) Posted:
i don even wanna talk about whether this stock is going up or down
i was just saying that the big buy or sell (aka big volume matching at the opening) is due to portfolio adjustment. i am not refering to windows dressing (meaning BBs push the stock up to make it nice), every month, quarter, half-year, year, there's some % of shares that the BBs have to maintain, so they have to buy/sell to readjust that %.
i am just sharing what i know, not predicting/analysing whether the stock will fly up or down
so longists or shortists, no need to flame me cause i also dunno where this stock will go.. and honestly, i also don bother cause i have no position and don plan to open one any sooner |
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also if the fund managers decided to adjust into Genting and adjust out from other counter also means the Funds manager see something which he likes about genting for them to adjust in. which idiot will adjust into a falling knives stocks?
rotijai ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:40) Posted:
i don even wanna talk about whether this stock is going up or down
i was just saying that the big buy or sell (aka big volume matching at the opening) is due to portfolio adjustment. i am not refering to windows dressing (meaning BBs push the stock up to make it nice), every month, quarter, half-year, year, there's some % of shares that the BBs have to maintain, so they have to buy/sell to readjust that %.
i am just sharing what i know, not predicting/analysing whether the stock will fly up or down
so longists or shortists, no need to flame me cause i also dunno where this stock will go.. and honestly, i also don bother cause i have no position and don plan to open one any sooner.
cashiertan ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:33) Posted:
| of course i know about the windows keeping. but not everybody do such thing nowadays. It makes the fund managers and BBs in obvious disadvantage for others to exploit on. anyway. Genting not showing very bearish signals. i wont enter either just wanna give some warning for noob shortists |
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i am not flaming you. i dun wish to either. just like you. just wanna explain for that guy also to explain my views for sharing.
no need to be so defensive either. i can see you are not having any motives nor gaining any benefits from ur post so lets make peace.
rotijai ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:40) Posted:
i don even wanna talk about whether this stock is going up or down
i was just saying that the big buy or sell (aka big volume matching at the opening) is due to portfolio adjustment. i am not refering to windows dressing (meaning BBs push the stock up to make it nice), every month, quarter, half-year, year, there's some % of shares that the BBs have to maintain, so they have to buy/sell to readjust that %.
i am just sharing what i know, not predicting/analysing whether the stock will fly up or down
so longists or shortists, no need to flame me cause i also dunno where this stock will go.. and honestly, i also don bother cause i have no position and don plan to open one any sooner.
cashiertan ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:33) Posted:
| of course i know about the windows keeping. but not everybody do such thing nowadays. It makes the fund managers and BBs in obvious disadvantage for others to exploit on. anyway. Genting not showing very bearish signals. i wont enter either just wanna give some warning for noob shortists |
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i don even wanna talk about whether this stock is going up or down
i was just saying that the big buy or sell (aka big volume matching at the opening) is due to portfolio adjustment. i am not refering to windows dressing (meaning BBs push the stock up to make it nice), every month, quarter, half-year, year, there's some % of shares that the BBs have to maintain, so they have to buy/sell to readjust that %.
i am just sharing what i know, not predicting/analysing whether the stock will fly up or down
so longists or shortists, no need to flame me cause i also dunno where this stock will go.. and honestly, i also don bother cause i have no position and don plan to open one any sooner.
cashiertan ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:33) Posted:
| of course i know about the windows keeping. but not everybody do such thing nowadays. It makes the fund managers and BBs in obvious disadvantage for others to exploit on. anyway. Genting not showing very bearish signals. i wont enter either just wanna give some warning for noob shortists |
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u can take a look at the volume at the end of the day, it will not be as big as the opening, but it will be " abnormally" bigger vol than the other days.
rotijai ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:31) Posted:
whether this stock is going up or down..
i have no comments and no position either.
today is the last day of the month. u go see every month end.. the vol is big or not
every professional trader will tidy up his portfolio every month end.. this is common sense in trading
if u still dunno about this, i suggest u spend more time reading/looking first
cashiertan ( Date: 31-Aug-2012 16:25) Posted:
| he is correct. there is big volume in 1st one hour with most of the deals done at 1.36 and 2 more few hours later 1.35. i think they expecting the price to go north on monday. possble to go up to 1.4 before go down again |
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of course i know about the windows keeping. but not everybody do such thing nowadays. It makes the fund managers and BBs in obvious disadvantage for others to exploit on. anyway. Genting not showing very bearish signals. i wont enter either just wanna give some warning for noob shortists
