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Example 1...
In a correctly assumed downtrend -
Bought at 4.20, cut loss at 4.12 (loss = 8c)
Buy in again at 3.00 and hold . (loss is 8 + 10 = 18c)
Example 2...
Bought at 4.20 and hold and hold
Buy in again at 3.00 ( loss =$1.20 + 8c =$1.28)
it makes no sense if u insist u says will down to 2.50, why " closed" yr position???? u make others confused, magari style- this also can, that also bolak. if u are so sure, why close, cos u afraid that it is rebounding...??? those follow u, i think dying soon.....poor u...wanting to gain followers....ask shorting (in fact not shorting) and price down, boasting himself how clever he is, and a slight rebouce, quickly post , " close position" lao......don fool in front of old dog, try others " pattern la" next time....
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:42) Posted:
| Mr Fool, what will be lowest price you plan to buy CPL? Since your mention no way to reach 2.50... Share with us what is the lowest price you will showhand on CPL... thx |
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Mr Fool, what will be lowest price you plan to buy CPL? Since your mention no way to reach 2.50... Share with us what is the lowest price you will showhand on CPL... thx
see, my prediction is true.....hahhahaha. still got cheeks to " waiyan"
capland ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:49) Posted:
no lah, why go after u... nothing earn or lose in going after u...ah wah...i can play and eat , even i had hundreds of lots...unlike u ...did not commit and keeps saying yr ideology......had seen yr " spot" taste yr roti prata stlye ...Lets see when it rebound- and u will 100% come out and say u had :close some position" ...hahaha... Magari pattern...
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:32) Posted:
So from 3.50 to 2.90... you should have 600lots....
You are Warren Buffett the 2nd, I beleive you buy into CPL to restructure it... You my hero. |
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don need to say, i already said for u this morning. When price goes up, u sure " closed" yr position.....liar liar liar.....same pattern, roti prata....proof proof..
capland ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:28) Posted:
proof proof ...evidence...no evidence then say soo much for what????? no standard ....lol......u shorted ah???? very long time ago ah ? hahahah a liar who still say he commited not at 3.00 level, but at 2.86 level then he said shorted at 3.08.....what a joke...ah wah ah wah... the roti prata man, at my coffeeshop- turning all the times...." save face" ...thats is why i always remind others not to believe anyone here , include me...
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:21) Posted:
Loaded investor do not average down every 10ct drop.... Contra players will do so most likely... |
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YES! ofcoz...
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:27) Posted:
Are there two types of win too ?
Paper gain and confirm won ? |
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My statement:
Paper loss = Money Cost Averaging = Hold = Most chances to turn around to gain so far = Rare and very tiny amount is self destruction so far (< 0.01% gone with the wind cases).
Cut loss = Real loss = I am afraid. It is not found in my investment dictionary.
capland ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:20) Posted:
paper loss= hold= got channce to see it up again
cut loss+ lost forever..cannot recoup
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:17) Posted:
Now I shall say there are two types of lost ...
1) Confirm lost = sold
2) Paper lost = hol |
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Mr Fool, just to inform you, I have closed all my position in CPL. No position now...
Can you share with us enter at 2.90, what will be your exit price and timeframe?
Are there two types of win too ?
Paper gain and confirm won ?
paper loss= hold= got channce to see it up again
cut loss+ lost forever..cannot recoup
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:17) Posted:
Now I shall say there are two types of lost ...
1) Confirm lost = sold
2) Paper lost = hold
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:
A loss is a loss, whether it is stated on paper (statement) or not.
Of course to a rich person, no loss is a loss,
even if it is stated on paper, since he has enough
money to withstand the highs and lows... 
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Now I shall say there are two types of lost ...
1) Confirm lost = sold
2) Paper lost = hold
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:
A loss is a loss, whether it is stated on paper (statement) or not.
Of course to a rich person, no loss is a loss,
even if it is stated on paper, since he has enough
money to withstand the highs and lows...
niuyear ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:06) Posted:
You have made a very STRANGE statement over here |
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oh. now i understand... to be a long term investor- u must willing to accept paper loss. cos no one can predict...traders cut loss, while investor hold paper loss. They only loss when they feel the FA of the company has lost its competitives to its peers. CPl and UOL are the 2 most diversify portfolio now. Although envirnoment is unfavourable now- just temporary. But once China and sg begins to stable, u will see UOL and cpl will lead the others...cross fingers...
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:11) Posted:
A loss is a loss, whether it is stated on paper (statement) or not.
Of course to a rich person, no loss is a loss,
even if it is stated on paper, since he has enough
money to withstand the highs and lows...
niuyear ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:06) Posted:
You have made a very STRANGE statement over here |
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A loss is a loss, whether it is stated on paper (statement) or not.
Of course to a rich person, no loss is a loss,
even if it is stated on paper, since he has enough
money to withstand the highs and lows...
niuyear ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 16:06) Posted:
You have made a very STRANGE statement over here.
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:46) Posted:
It is only human to agonise over big losses.
Especially when there's no such thing as 'paper loss'.
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You have made a very STRANGE statement over here.
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:46) Posted:
It is only human to agonise over big losses.
Especially when there's no such thing as 'paper loss'.
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:42) Posted:
How can one be peace when the price keep going down.... Even physical asset also U turning... Can tell how nervous and desperate he is now from his long and many posts.... Overexpose in one sector?? lol |
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when prices down...ah wah talks and boast....now ah wah wru? come on,, chat la...no one is right or wrong....
u get it wrong. i agree no ones know the trwnd. I am against his knwlege of " no such thing as paper loss"
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:57) Posted:
iPunter himself already said nobody know the trend .... In the first place how can you , me , they , he , she or even Temasek know ? If can know the future price , the market will not move up or down as everyone will go the same direction....
capland ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:50) Posted:
| thats u also means when u buy a house at high price and when there is a downturn , u will sell yr house? poor chap, then u may end up no house to stay... i believe those who vested in stocks before the downturn choose to hold, regardless the paper loss, and sell when price recover. Even our temasek had hold on to their paper losss, now declared that they had fully recovered. .. pls explain |
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iPunter himself already said nobody know the trend .... In the first place how can you , me , they , he , she or even Temasek know ? If can know the future price , the market will not move up or down as everyone will go the same direction....
capland ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:50) Posted:
thats u also means when u buy a house at high price and when there is a downturn , u will sell yr house? poor chap, then u may end up no house to stay... i believe those who vested in stocks before the downturn choose to hold, regardless the paper loss, and sell when price recover. Even our temasek had hold on to their paper losss, now declared that they had fully recovered. .. pls explain.
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:46) Posted:
It is only human to agonise over big losses.
Especially when there's no such thing as 'paper loss'.
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ah wah ...how ah....going up to 2.92 LAO. don tell me u " ALREADY" closed yr position at 2.85...hahahah... same spot again
Traders mindset is always one-sided. They think cutting loss is the only solution. If it applies to properties. they ended up homeless. Our temasek had loss billions in [paper loss during the crsis, did they sell all? No , they instead increase their holdings, a good bargain to buy...and end out a winner. Learn from them. traders find it hard to know that when there is down,. it won go forever, what goes down will go up...
thats u also means when u buy a house at high price and when there is a downturn , u will sell yr house? poor chap, then u may end up no house to stay... i believe those who vested in stocks before the downturn choose to hold, regardless the paper loss, and sell when price recover. Even our temasek had hold on to their paper losss, now declared that they had fully recovered. .. pls explain.
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:46) Posted:
It is only human to agonise over big losses.
Especially when there's no such thing as 'paper loss'.
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 15:42) Posted:
How can one be peace when the price keep going down.... Even physical asset also U turning... Can tell how nervous and desperate he is now from his long and many posts.... Overexpose in one sector?? lol |
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