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Hulumas
    20-May-2010 18:18  
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CONTROLLED? WHO KNOWS?

Cookie      ( Date: 20-May-2010 18:15) Posted:



me oso kinda agree this gld etf is created to make easy $ for the creator lor...

the spreads dun always reflect spot suituations.. very kelong.. as wif most etfs

 
 
Cookie
    20-May-2010 18:15  
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me oso kinda agree this gld etf is created to make easy $ for the creator lor...

the spreads dun always reflect spot suituations.. very kelong.. as wif most etfs
 
 
ozone2002
    20-May-2010 16:06  
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i looked at the chart for gold..looks like fools rush in..

the TA shows that gold has an exhaustion gap after forming an island reversal..

further downside to come..gold always dip after a big rally..

buy on big dip.. physical only..ETF useless..
 

 
Cookie
    20-May-2010 15:49  
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-US$2.67! what gives??

USD up agst EURO, GOLD down huh.. correct pattern nt?

 
 
 
ozone2002
    19-May-2010 22:25  
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Egon von Greyerz: Gold And Silver Will Be The Only Assets that Will Protect Investors Fully Against The Destruction of Money!

  • Egon von Greyerz exhibits perspicuity in his writing rarely found in most modern writers. His articles are a great read. His reasoning is sound and makes boring economics enjoyable. I have said before and I will say again, remember the Golden Rule: ’Whoever has the gold makes the rules!’
     
    In 2002 we advised investors to put up to 50% of their liquid assets into gold when the price was $300. To us it was crystal clear that the mountain of debts and derivatives would never be repaid with normal money but would be inflated away by money printing and this is what is now happening. The media are now talking about a bubble in gold and comparing to the 1980 top at $850. Let us be very clear, although gold has gone up 5 times since the 1999 bottom at $250,  it is nowhere near its peak. Adjusted for real inflation (as per shadowstats.com) the 1980 gold peak in today’s prices corresponds to around $7,200 today. So gold could easily go up 6 times from the current price of $1,220 and still be within normal parameters.
      
    There are many factors that will contribute to gold’s rise from here (in addition to money printing):
     
    1. Gold production is going down.
    2. Neither Comex (the futures exchange), nor the bullion banks would be able to deliver more than a fraction of the physical gold for which they have outstanding commitments.
    3. Central banks and the IMF probably don’t hold even half of the 30,000 tons that they claim they have. Most likely, at least 15,000 tons (6 years gold production) have been sold to suppress the gold price.
    4. The precarious financial system will lead to a total distrust of paper gold including most of the ETFs which have no physical gold.
     
    The four factors above will lead to the most massive surge in the gold price. There will be nowhere near sufficient gold to satisfy demand at current prices. We had been expecting gold to start its acceleration in March 2010 and this is exactly what is happening. We expect the move to be relentless during most of this year with very few major corrections but with high volatility. Moves of $100 in one day could easily happen.
     
    So gold is likely to make a top in the next few years between $5,000 and $10,000. But if we get hyperinflation the price could go exponentially higher like in the Weimar Republic when gold reached DM 100 trillion per ounce in 1923. Will gold experience the same type of correction when is has peaked as happened after the 1980 peak? Probably not, because gold is likely to be a part of a new monetary system that will be created when the current one has collapsed.
     
    The table below illustrates the total destruction of paper money against gold in the last 100 years and shows how many ounces of gold that $1,000 bought at various times. In 1910, $1,000 bought 40 oz of gold at $25 per oz. Today in 2010, $1,000 buys 0.80 oz of gold at $1,230 per oz. This is a massive decline of 98% in the value of the dollar measured in real terms in the last 100 years. The next significant year is 1971 when Nixon abolished the convertibility of dollars to gold. It was this disastrous decision that opened the floodgates for the credit and money creation that we are experiencing currently. The dollar is down 97% since then. But even if we take more recent years, the purchasing power of the dollar measured in gold has declined catastrophically. Since the 1999 gold low, the dollar has declined by 80% against gold and since 2002 (when Matterhorn Asset Management recommended major gold investments) by 76%.

     

    Virtually all currencies show similar declines in value against gold in the last 100 years. This is the clearest evidence of governments and central banks defrauding their people of their hard earned money. Where will it end? It will end when the dollar and many other currencies reach their intrinsic value of ZERO. That time is not far away.

 
 
iPunter
    19-May-2010 19:47  
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If the martians smart, they should find a way to sapu all the oxygen in the our atmos layer...

and negotiate with the silly humans...

in return for their tulips...

hehehe... Smiley


 

 
SmallBull
    19-May-2010 19:41  
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The Martians does not know what is GOLD so how can they ever understand?

So, when they attack earth what do you think they will carry back?Smiley

 



warren_buffet      ( Date: 19-May-2010 14:28) Posted:



Very interesting discussion here Smiley

 

The Martians are looking at earth people... what are these people digging.....GOLD.....and then put them back into a hole???  ....and then employed guards to guard the hole????

What is GOLD?

Smiley

 
 
prince
    19-May-2010 14:48  
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SMART GUY!



ozone2002      ( Date: 19-May-2010 14:28) Posted:

don't later show the black gold from the nose hor.. keke

prince      ( Date: 19-May-2010 14:23) Posted:

Wah, so much gold pictures. I am going to give you a bigger one later.


 
 
ozone2002
    19-May-2010 14:28  
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don't later show the black gold from the nose hor.. keke

prince      ( Date: 19-May-2010 14:23) Posted:

Wah, so much gold pictures. I am going to give you a bigger one later.

 
 
warren_buffet
    19-May-2010 14:28  
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Very interesting discussion here Smiley

 

The Martians are looking at earth people... what are these people digging.....GOLD.....and then put them back into a hole???  ....and then employed guards to guard the hole????

What is GOLD?

Smiley
 

 
prince
    19-May-2010 14:23  
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Wah, so much gold pictures. I am going to give you a bigger one later.
 
 
Hulumas
    19-May-2010 12:18  
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SPECULATION is the answer!

ozone2002      ( Date: 18-May-2010 09:24) Posted:

if there's confidence in the EURO y bother panic buying gold?... ponder ponder..



Wait until you see the U.S. gold fevergold-and-silver-eagles

Gold shops in Europe out of stock due to panic buying



 

It is increasingly difficult to get physical gold or silver in Germany, where the biggest buying stampede ever registered is taking place. Especially smaller online shops for precious metals didn´t have enough stock to cope with the demand, but even the biggest retailers warn of long waiting times and shortages

Pro Aurum, one of the leading online shops for bullion in Germany, is displaying a “shop closed” message since Thursday. The leading German bullion website “Goldseiten.de” announced an enormous surge in visitors, which their four web servers couldn´t handle at the peaks. According to their statement, the demand of gold investors is now significantly stronger than after the Lehman collapse, even while the gold price is twice as high now. But the shops are better prepared this time and it is still possible to buy coins and bars at some places, which is also credited to the fact that the panic is limited to Europe at the moment.

This is confirmed by the Australian Mint, announcing that they sold 243,500 OZ of physical gold during the last two weeks, more than in the entire first quarter. The orders came nearly exclusively from Europe and the Australian Mint sees signs of “panic buys”.

It seems that the emergency trillion dollar rescue package of the Euro zone and the IMF sparked a deep rooted fear among European investors. Open criticism towards the measures from countless senior analysts and retired central bankers, warning of high inflation, didn´t help to calm down people. The Euro dropped to new lows to the USD while the gold price reached a new record high in both currencies. The gold price in euro is at an all time high of 990 EUR and close to go to uncharted four-digit territory.

 
 
niuyear
    19-May-2010 12:10  
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Ironically, German people now then buy gold bar.  Their currency drop so much and they need use lots of money to buy gold bars.

China also another country that their renminbi has been 'kept' low value by their government, but, yet they are the big buyers since last year.  

 
 
 
ozone2002
    18-May-2010 13:51  
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have u bought ur physical gold yet? or are u holding fiat money that can be printed and reproduced time n time again..

Germans Lead Gold Rush Frenzy!

...people “are not as dumb as economists. They believe there is going to be inflation and are buying gold to protect themselves.”

  • The public is slowly but surely waking up to the reality of a global currency crisis. Fiat currencies worldwide are being debased. As the major currencies: USD, Euro, Yen, Swiss Franc, UK Pound are devalued in cycles, other currencies will feel the market pressures for competitive devaluations. Take for example the Asian Tigers: Taiwan, S. Korea and Singapore, if they maintain a strong currency as the major currencies fall in value, their economies will be affected. They will lose export competitiveness and jobs. The problem is made worse by the Chinese Yuan peg to the USD. As the USD drops in value, the Asian Tigers will find it even more difficult to compete with China!
     
  • The reality is: all fiat currencies are being devalued against gold. Gold is making record highs in all currencies. Gold is the insurance against a global race to bottom for fiat currencies! The Germans and many Europeans are waking up to this reality and rushing to buy gold. FT reports: (emphasis mine)
      
    14 May 2010 (Financial Times) — The telephone has not stopped ringing at the Rand refinery in South Africa this week. Panicking German dealers and banks have been desperate to get their hands on krugerrands… The refinery, which usually sells 2,000 coins to each customer at a time, says that last week it received an order from one German bank for 30,000 coins. Another bank requested 15,000 coins…
     
    Frank Ziegler, head of precious metals at BayernLB, one of Germany’s largest wholesale suppliers of gold, says: “People are buying krugerrands like crazy.” The frenzy pushed gold prices to a nominal high of $1,248.95 a troy ounce on Friday while the euro price surged through €1,000 an ounce for the first time. Adjusted for inflation, however, gold prices are still a long way from their all-time high above $2,300 an ounce in 1980.
     
    Although coins account for a small part of the market, they are one of the best indicators of investor sentiment towards the precious metal… … 
    Other important factors are supporting prices: institutional investors are pouring billions into bullion-backed exchange traded funds; central banks have reversed 20 years of selling gold; some, including the Chinese central bank, are buying it; and mine gold supply growth has stagnated.
       …..
    there is no indication that Germans are ready to stop buying. Panicked by the possible inflationary implications of this week’s €750bn bail-out, they have been snapping up gold coins and small bars at a faster rate than in the aftermath of the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy.
      …..
    The European Central Bank says its government bond purchases will be “sterilised” by operations to remove inflation risks. But Martin Siegel, manager of Westgold, a dealer of gold in Frankfurt, says people “are not as dumb as economists. They believe there is going to be inflation and are buying gold to protect themselves.”
     

    German investors are notoriously wary about inflation. While few are old enough to remember the hyperinflation that wrecked Germany during the Weimar Republic in the 1920s, the episode remains etched into the national psyche: archive film from the period has been running on the news in recent days.
     
    The appetite for coins has been so intense that shortages are developing. “In the European market there is a shortage of krugerrands,” says Mr Ziegler. As a result, the premium paid for krugerrands in the secondary market has risen from about 2 per cent to 6-8 per cent.
 
 
niuyear
    18-May-2010 12:03  
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Those who hold the gold bars, can slowly release to the eager europeans for, they never took gold seriously as they have never expected their euro currency could falter.  

Set up your own website specially for them and post yoiur gold bars' pics.  

 

 
ozone2002
    18-May-2010 09:24  
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if there's confidence in the EURO y bother panic buying gold?... ponder ponder..



Wait until you see the U.S. gold fevergold-and-silver-eagles

Gold shops in Europe out of stock due to panic buying



 

It is increasingly difficult to get physical gold or silver in Germany, where the biggest buying stampede ever registered is taking place. Especially smaller online shops for precious metals didn´t have enough stock to cope with the demand, but even the biggest retailers warn of long waiting times and shortages

Pro Aurum, one of the leading online shops for bullion in Germany, is displaying a “shop closed” message since Thursday. The leading German bullion website “Goldseiten.de” announced an enormous surge in visitors, which their four web servers couldn´t handle at the peaks. According to their statement, the demand of gold investors is now significantly stronger than after the Lehman collapse, even while the gold price is twice as high now. But the shops are better prepared this time and it is still possible to buy coins and bars at some places, which is also credited to the fact that the panic is limited to Europe at the moment.

This is confirmed by the Australian Mint, announcing that they sold 243,500 OZ of physical gold during the last two weeks, more than in the entire first quarter. The orders came nearly exclusively from Europe and the Australian Mint sees signs of “panic buys”.

It seems that the emergency trillion dollar rescue package of the Euro zone and the IMF sparked a deep rooted fear among European investors. Open criticism towards the measures from countless senior analysts and retired central bankers, warning of high inflation, didn´t help to calm down people. The Euro dropped to new lows to the USD while the gold price reached a new record high in both currencies. The gold price in euro is at an all time high of 990 EUR and close to go to uncharted four-digit territory.
 
 
iPunter
    17-May-2010 23:15  
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This is called "talking cok"after market hours...

hehehe... Smiley
 
 
178investors
    17-May-2010 22:56  
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aiyoyo.....why normal sensibles become so carried away by unwarranted fears of no breads and butter. if it eventuate, just become farmers everyone. that way, we grow and eat our own produce and survive lor.

aiyoyo..... in the meantime, trust your singapore dollars. dont abandon it. if you compare, over a 30 years period, gold has underperform singdollars and outtaperform many many sovereign currencies.

what goobledygooks are we witnessing here!
 
 
iPunter
    17-May-2010 21:51  
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Everyone will not care about the gold...

All will be fighting over the little bread...

Or eat each other's body.. Smiley
 
 
niuyear
    17-May-2010 21:36  
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Ozone will be jiat lat.   He has to carry many tons of gold bars and run for his life for, everyone will be going after his gold bars and robbery, gun short etc will happen all over the world.  Where got time to eat?      LOL!

niuyear      ( Date: 17-May-2010 21:34) Posted:

When i run out of bread, i probably will eat you  if i dont have gold bar to exchange for food.      hahahA!   We will kill each other and the whole world will be in a choas.



iPunter      ( Date: 17-May-2010 21:26) Posted:



If bread is scarce, it may cost a bar of gold to buy tiny a loaf...

hehehe... Smiley




 
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