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AUSGROUP: 1H09 revenue up 28.8% to reach A$260.5 m

OK Ok. Ausgroup time.

Strong support, Ausgroup, market depth show turn around trend.

 

sorry i am abit confused...is this not the ausgroup chat?

 

Ok. Just think that It finally stay above 7 dollars after few times attacking and believe it will continue to chiong up to next level.

All the best.

yabbest      ( Date: 10-Oct-2012 09:22) Posted: its ok, told u i jip in 6.50...so play abit for some $ first, still hv couple for longs...just like my midas & ausgroup i will also qiqo for this counter as very dynamic...nice to play :) cheers    khng2012  Senior Posted: 10-Oct-2012 09:14   x 0    x 0 Faint... u play contra...  may be will raise further tonight since it close strong.

 

its ok, told u i jip in 6.50...so play abit for some $ first, still hv couple for longs...just like my midas & ausgroup

i will also qiqo for this counter as very dynamic...nice to play :)

cheers 

khng2012  Senior	Posted: 10-Oct-2012 09:14
x 0    x 0	Faint... u play contra...  may be will raise further tonight since it close strong.

 

 

Faint... u play contra...

may be will raise further tonight since it close strong.

yabbest      ( Date: 10-Oct-2012 09:04) Posted: friend, gd call on ANR, i just took some contra profits last night for my holidays...just hold a couple for 2 yrs If really got time to monitor, this counter can play both diretions. Thx. whoakakaka     khng2012  Senior Posted: 10-Oct-2012 06:33   x 0    x 0 Today close at 7.28. Whoever followed my call week ago to buy below 6.5. 10% profit is with us in a week.  Since it cross 7 dollars and away from my bottom price, I will be quiet to prevent people say I ask to buy high.  If drop again below 7 is a good buy again. I think it won't since winter is approaching, coal usage will be increased.

 

friend, gd call on ANR, i just took some contra profits last night for my holidays...just hold a couple for 2 yrs

If really got time to monitor, this counter can play both diretions. Thx.

whoakakaka

 

khng2012  Senior	Posted: 10-Oct-2012 06:33
x 0    x 0	Today close at 7.28. Whoever followed my call week ago to buy below 6.5. 10% profit is with us in a week.  Since it cross 7 dollars and away from my bottom price, I will be quiet to prevent people say I ask to buy high.  If drop again below 7 is a good buy again. I think it won't since winter is approaching, coal usage will be increased.

 

Today close at 7.28. Whoever followed my call week ago to buy below 6.5. 10% profit is with us in a week.

Since it cross 7 dollars and away from my bottom price, I will be quiet to prevent people say I ask to buy high.

If drop again below 7 is a good buy again. I think it won't since winter is approaching, coal usage will be increased.

 

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khng2012      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 14:30) Posted: Thanks bro. I am still using poems to trade US stock, expensive! But I am not frequent trader in US and it is alright to me. Hope Ausgroup can up till 65 to 70cents soon and let me unload partially and buy more Alpha. Tomique      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 14:20) Posted: I did some research on brokerages and  provide the below prices for the benefits  of those trading US stocks and options.   It can be seen that ChoiceTrade offers the  cheapest in term of stock and option  trades. Hope it helps you to compare some  of the fees charged. This is not to say that I am supporting US stock trading, but if you're in this may help. Stock Trades Options per contract Options per 10 contracts Options per 20 contract Exercise Fees ChoiceTrade $5.00 $5.00 + 0.15 $6.50 $8.00 $5.00 TD Ameritrade $9.99 $9.90 + 0.75 $17.49 $24.90 $19.99 E*Trade $9.99 $9.90 + 0.15 $17.49 $24.90 $19.99 Scottrade $7.00 $7.00 + 1.25 $19.50 $32.00 $17.00 optionXpress $8.95 $1.25 (min 12.50) $12.50 $25.00 $9.95 Happy trading!

 

7.2 dollars + 6% rally.

i love Romney. Obam you can go to sleep.

khng2012      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 13:40) Posted: Reason for choosing Alpha Natural Resource 1) Obama may lose this election. Obama won the 90% of vote  of  coal mining states in last election since all these people are middle class people and support Obama since they believe Obama  will take care them. But, their dream doesn't come true. Obama will be die on the hand of all  these coal mining states  which is about 30% of vote right in US 2) Alpha Natural Resource 60% revenue from coking coal and 40% revenue from thermal coal. They idle 8 mines and retrench 1200 workers who are working in thermal coal mine. The revenue percentage of thermal coal will cut down further. 3) Coking coal price currently is about 2 times higher than thermal coal price now although drop massively from 330per ton(2011, Australia  flood)  to 170perton (Japan recently record). However, the operation cost for coking coal is only about 20% more expensive than thermal coal. So profit margin is still quite high. 330 per ton to 170 per ton vs the share price of 66 dollars(2011) to 6.78 dollars. 4) Natural gas are up till 3.40 per mmbtu vs 2.13 per mmbtu of thermal coal price (converted as per energy burning figure) 5) Evidence show that Japan are working closely with Russia to obtain the Natural gas instead of relying on the LNG source from Australia. 40% of natural gas supplied from Russia to Europe will jack up the energy price in Europe. Recent figure show that Europe purchased thermal coal from US in Aug which is about 13% production of thermal coal in US in August. Natural gas price in Europe will be higher and higher and the immediate replacement which is not affected by season is only thermal coal since oil price is even higher for electric generation. 6) Coking coal are used for steel making. The period of downturn cycle of steel demand is about 6 months, now is 3rd month. 7) Alpha Natural resource having the lowest debt ratio among its peers listed in US like arch coal, peabody, Waltersol and etc. 8) Alpha Natural resource price are the most pressured price among all its peers during this downturn which is drop from peak in 2011 66 till 6.78 dollars. I would like to take the risk to earn big. Info provided for reference and trade with own risk. merlin_magic      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 13:18) Posted: Khng: Coal related stocks cannot go far due to Obama introduction of clean energy... However, it will cheong when winter approaches... The US commodity stock I prefer is Alcoa....However, I have sold off my stake as I am worried that Q3 results to be announced tonight falls short of expectation....

 

I think they had created enough fear these few days, i slowly understand their techniques on accumulating,by shorting the price scared ppl off or create a few minutes price rally trap to make ppl let go. Don't know how's tomorrow... and i stil hav contra lots tat need to let go besides lots tat i gona keep... u guys are right, no contra unless confident enough. I was over confident. So most probably i.will suffer another loss again.

 

Why not?

They can spend year to accummulate, why they cannot sell or buy as flexible as retailer like us?

Their holding power is much stronger than you and me and slowly buy up, unload, buy up, unload or sell down, load, sell down, load without letting you know.

Method different only. Who buy insurance, do you know where is your money?

Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:25) Posted: But BBs cant sell or buy as flexible as retailer like us. raymaster      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:17) Posted: yes u r not totally wrong. but in business we see quarterly and full final year result.  To BB a cent up a day can be really huge impact.  For minor investor, it will cause us worry and guess which direction the prices will go after tomorrow. If got holding power sure no worry but if contra this shorttime just be careful.

 

Let's put this way

1) Contra - purely gambling. Buy big (up) or small(down). Instead of minutes, It extend to 3 days but the amount put in is huge.

2) CFD - 10 to 30% money put in. It is also offer a choice to buy reversely (which is short). Good tools to use but cannot be long term since it involved 4 to 8% annual interest and month roll over (need to pay commission). It is used for within 3 months investment if really confidence with the share direction to go

3) Stock, put in real money and keep for very long term without subjected any interest and commission once hold it. Since it is for long term, must insist one theory, 'buy during dip, never chase and never buy falling knife'.

raymaster      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:17) Posted: yes u r not totally wrong. but in business we see quarterly and full final year result.  To BB a cent up a day can be really huge impact.  For minor investor, it will cause us worry and guess which direction the prices will go after tomorrow. If got holding power sure no worry but if contra this shorttime just be careful.  Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:03) Posted: Everything is a gamble...do business also a gamble mah....

 

But BBs cant sell or buy as flexible as retailer like us.

raymaster      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:17) Posted: yes u r not totally wrong. but in business we see quarterly and full final year result.  To BB a cent up a day can be really huge impact.  For minor investor, it will cause us worry and guess which direction the prices will go after tomorrow. If got holding power sure no worry but if contra this shorttime just be careful.  Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:03) Posted: Everything is a gamble...do business also a gamble mah....

 

yes u r not totally wrong. but in business we see quarterly and full final year result. 

To BB a cent up a day can be really huge impact. 

For minor investor, it will cause us worry and guess which direction the prices will go after tomorrow.

If got holding power sure no worry but if contra this shorttime just be careful. 

Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:03) Posted: Everything is a gamble...do business also a gamble mah.... raymaster      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:58) Posted: " GAMBLING" stock it shall become in the shortime.    So vest with car

 

I still have 100 lots with Ausgroup but seem like it will be a long term running till dual list.

Now I shifted my CFD to NOL.

For whoever interest about my analysis to NOL.

1) I am betting reverse turn over of NOL by announcing profit in coming quarter report on 25 Oct, not too long, 2 weeks only

2) Maersk(No.1) and CMG(No.3) had reported profit in  last Q, NOL result  normally report about 2 month late as compared them. As such, I believe NOL will be profitable

3) The freight rate stay above 2011 all year freight level and the  fuel oil bunker price stay  low since May. As per my detail calculation of the freight rate, bunker rate with the no of containers and region that they operate, I  calculated about 150million of profit in coming 3Q.

4) Previously, NOL announce to sell main office building. Now no more news, seem like their finance become healthy.

Just bought in CFD of 1.105. My target is  1.30 and will cut off once it drop below 1.05. So also aim 100% profit and 25% loss in max.

I may actively appear in NOL thread hehe... Wish me luck.

 

aiyo...lower than my expectation...really game over for now.

Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:52) Posted: either close at $0.52 / 0.525...let's see...

 

Everything is a gamble...do business also a gamble mah....

raymaster      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:58) Posted: " GAMBLING" stock it shall become in the shortime.    So vest with care Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:50) Posted: maybe to create activities from the public...otherwise where to buy, where to sell.?

 

" GAMBLING" stock it shall become in the shortime. 

  So vest with care

Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:50) Posted: maybe to create activities from the public...otherwise where to buy, where to sell.? xin9999      ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 16:48) Posted: why they were keep passing left hand and right hand... i saw their movement now

 

This is to create the attention from newbie and market day traders.

Accummulate quietly, once sufficient, boost the volume to attract attention.

First of all, do you know ausgroup if it didn't go up 20% from 41 to 49.5? Now, you know. That's why it come.

First of all, must learn how to detect the BB's  accummulation which I posted here before.

 

either close at $0.52 / 0.525...let's see...