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rotijai
    11-Jul-2011 09:17  
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at least now we know we can buy when it drops near to 1.33 (if it ever does) :)
 
 
muifan
    11-Jul-2011 09:15  
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I still feel STX will tank..

since master sifu roti also agreed that more than 1.40 is very dangerous..

everyone expect it to tank on opening..

so now it chionged..

but seeing the extremly think Qs...make me suspicious the tank is about to come..

 

rotijai      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:12) Posted:



erm.. only stx didnt tank k?

the market tanks :)

eastcivic      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:10) Posted:

not really surprised lah..... i thought dow was quite good....


 
 
rotijai
    11-Jul-2011 09:12  
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erm.. only stx didnt tank k?

the market tanks :)

eastcivic      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:10) Posted:

not really surprised lah..... i thought dow was quite good.....

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:03) Posted:



CUTTED AT    ONE   BID PROFIT

BUT THEN STILL LOSE COMMISSION A BIT...

STRANGE THAT IT DID NOT TANKED..WIERD...

BUT THEN I M VERY THANKFULL TO CAI SHEN YE MINIMIZING MY LOSSES :P

 


 

 
muifan
    11-Jul-2011 09:12  
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yah thanks man!

protecting profits and capital has now become my priority...minimize any losses...

the power of  ipunterism

lol

rotijai      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:09) Posted:

but buying at > 1.4 is indeed dangerous :)

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:06) Posted:



I AM NOT LETTING MY GUTS DOWN YET...

THE TRAP MAYBE STILL DARE...COME LATER IN THE DAY SUDDENLY ONE..

SO I HAPPY I CUT LIAO KEKEK


 
 
eastcivic
    11-Jul-2011 09:10  
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not really surprised lah..... i thought dow was quite good.....

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:03) Posted:



CUTTED AT    ONE   BID PROFIT

BUT THEN STILL LOSE COMMISSION A BIT...

STRANGE THAT IT DID NOT TANKED..WIERD...

BUT THEN I M VERY THANKFULL TO CAI SHEN YE MINIMIZING MY LOSSES :P

 

 
 
rotijai
    11-Jul-2011 09:09  
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but buying at > 1.4 is indeed dangerous :)

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:06) Posted:



I AM NOT LETTING MY GUTS DOWN YET...

THE TRAP MAYBE STILL DARE...COME LATER IN THE DAY SUDDENLY ONE..

SO I HAPPY I CUT LIAO KEKEKE

rotijai      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:04) Posted:



not strange.. it simply means it isnt a trap..

that bull is real :


 

 
muifan
    11-Jul-2011 09:06  
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I AM NOT LETTING MY GUTS DOWN YET...

THE TRAP MAYBE STILL DARE...COME LATER IN THE DAY SUDDENLY ONE..

SO I HAPPY I CUT LIAO KEKEKE

rotijai      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:04) Posted:



not strange.. it simply means it isnt a trap..

that bull is real :)

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:03) Posted:



CUTTED AT    ONE   BID PROFIT

BUT THEN STILL LOSE COMMISSION A BIT...

STRANGE THAT IT DID NOT TANKED..WIERD...

BUT THEN I M VERY THANKFULL TO CAI SHEN YE MINIMIZING MY LOSSES :P

 


 
 
eplepl
    11-Jul-2011 09:04  
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i am kind of worried about the data and unemployment claims..... but it seems like the market has not shortage of bad news..... but it seems like everything under control ?

care to share what do u think ?

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:40) Posted:



First & foremost, you need to understand the concept of gap down. Pls search candlestick gap down definition on google, investopedia etc.

Opening gap down is only if opening price has a gap/ void  from previous trading  day's intraday low.  Assuming in stxosv opens at  1.38 & above, this is effectively  not called gap down => implies lower opening from Friday.

Muifan i already mentioned there  can be massive throwing @opening but  why are you so keen to join them especially right at the opening seconds (especially if gap down)?  I already highlighted, you must learn to think and act like my sifu Juicy. She would've loved to buy from those people who will gamely enter forced sell bids to  sell  i can tell ya that. Remember the Noble tutorial and Gsp's dismal earnings last Nov? Gsp  opened at  2.09 came up to 2.16 intraday high within first 10 mins and thereafter is downward action for rest of the day post earnings release.

Similarly, roti you said many will gap down tmr. I think that is  misleading, most will open lower but that's not called gap down. ie. only  if Capitaland open's at 2.97 or lower then that's considered gap down opening. Given Fri's long white/ green candle, its hard for it to open with a gap down, yes with a  lower opening.

Roti looks like you're undecided, you mentioned on Sat  of having a bullish bias and today turned bearish. Must be due to  mood swings. *chuckles*

muifan      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 09:42) Posted:



GOod morning Roti,

Yeap will cut at the start at GAP DOWN and will take a 3  cent loss THAT IS IF CHAI SHEN YE

is happy to let the    GAP DOWN  not LOWER THAN 1.38 hehe

However, there is also the theory of filling the gap mentioned by Master Gaecia...

which my MR G friend is in lined with...thus he told me , in his opinion,

the better time to cut is Wednesday or Thur, of cos he is not god, he can be wrong too..

what do you think roti


 
 
rotijai
    11-Jul-2011 09:04  
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not strange.. it simply means it isnt a trap..

that bull is real :)

muifan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 09:03) Posted:



CUTTED AT    ONE   BID PROFIT

BUT THEN STILL LOSE COMMISSION A BIT...

STRANGE THAT IT DID NOT TANKED..WIERD...

BUT THEN I M VERY THANKFULL TO CAI SHEN YE MINIMIZING MY LOSSES :P

 

 
 
muifan
    11-Jul-2011 09:03  
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CUTTED AT    ONE   BID PROFIT

BUT THEN STILL LOSE COMMISSION A BIT...

STRANGE THAT IT DID NOT TANKED..WIERD...

BUT THEN I M VERY THANKFULL TO CAI SHEN YE MINIMIZING MY LOSSES :P

 
 

 
eplepl
    11-Jul-2011 09:02  
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woman, you are kind of impressive ya.

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:51) Posted:



China's inflation hit 6.4%, analysts' forecast was 6.3% across the panel. Did it exceed from forecast by alot? Now, we  won't know if this  was already priced in by the market  given that China's rate hike took place earlier last mid wk instead of over the weekend (Sun)  had  given away  that inflation data isn't  positive. 

Bad employment data from the  US, yes was so bad  & its  a miracle  that the market didn't tank  last  Friday. Hahah  I actually  thought it was bullish red candle,  how odd. You see, it doesn't matter how the market looks like at the opening, lunch time or other trading intervals.. the most vital part is in the last 15-30mins to closing.  That is all that matters.

   

rotijai      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 16:00) Posted:



master civic..

i might be overly bearish atm (i am stil holding longs on gsp n kep - dunno whether my cut loss will be triggered.. sigh i guess i always make stupid mistakes when i long, i think shorting might be more suitable for me..- i know master ipunter will disagree with me on this :P)

ok here's the reasons why tmr will gap down.. (whether it will make a white candle or not.. it depends on our BBs are bullish about our earnings.. but i find it real weird tat even big giant like kepcorp which keeps winning contracts and it's almost expected tat kep corp will give a very good earnings.. but they  still keep selling kep corp like nobody's business.. and also look at other STI stocks.. all got sold down as if the next recession is coming to hit SG..)

bad unemployment rate from US &

high inflation in china...

dow has disgested the unemployment data.. STI/HSI/SSE/all the asia markets havent.. and with this new high inflation in china - i dunno how HSI/SSE will react to it..

and yes dow did well by climbing up at the last hours..  cause the earnings are coming.. it's supposed to be a ya ya hooray season where most companies are still producing good numbers (i hope).


 
 
iPunter
    11-Jul-2011 08:52  
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You mean " all is betting" ?...  Smiley

bryansng      ( Date: 11-Jul-2011 07:08) Posted:

Sometime, even with the best charts or fundamental info you have, you will not be able to get what you want... Fate plays a part too. haha

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:57) Posted:

I'd been trying everyday  to short stxosv since  late last week  but my market maker  cfd provider won't allow/ no stock to lend. On cosco too, imagine how pissed i was


 
 
bryansng
    11-Jul-2011 07:08  
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Sometime, even with the best charts or fundamental info you have, you will not be able to get what you want... Fate plays a part too. haha

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:57) Posted:

I'd been trying everyday  to short stxosv since  late last week  but my market maker  cfd provider won't allow/ no stock to lend. On cosco too, imagine how pissed i was.

bryansng      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:54) Posted:



Yea... up down up down... when i tot it will go up. it went down.


 
 
Gaecia
    11-Jul-2011 00:31  
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The tactics of  institutional players  hadn't  been  different and panic selling  is expected. I am not saying that stxosv  will end  with a green candle tmr, just which  length of the red candle one manages to  exit for cutloss is the deciding factor in magnitude of losses  (or loss in profits for some).  My guess is  your bet size is small and  that'll  be relatively easier to manage a cutloss exit.

In the case of Olam, it  opened at 2.67 those who sold/ shorted  immed at  opening sought the worst. Note that  olam was a gap down opening frm the  previous trading day.  The  ball  game has changed?? We shall see.

Shalom, hav an early night k.
 
 
muifan
    11-Jul-2011 00:04  
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Yoyoyo Sifu Gaecia,

thanks for highlighting and explaining, I am already prepared for the worst tomorrow. I hope you are right about sifu Juicy's tutorial on GSP and Noble, but I think does not apply everytime...given it comes together with poor job data in States and high inflation rate in China might make this time a different ball game..I might not even have to the chance to cut..

Anyway thanks and wish me luck! hehehe...

if not i have to everyday eat breadtalk pork floss bun for 1 mth hahah

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:40) Posted:



First & foremost, you need to understand the concept of gap down. Pls search candlestick gap down definition on google, investopedia etc.

Opening gap down is only if opening price has a gap/ void  from previous trading  day's intraday low.  Assuming in stxosv opens at  1.38 & above, this is effectively  not called gap down => implies lower opening from Friday.

Muifan i already mentioned there  can be massive throwing @opening but  why are you so keen to join them especially right at the opening seconds (especially if gap down)?  I already highlighted, you must learn to think and act like my sifu Juicy. She would've loved to buy from those people who will gamely enter forced sell bids to  sell  i can tell ya that. Remember the Noble tutorial and Gsp's dismal earnings last Nov? Gsp  opened at  2.09 came up to 2.16 intraday high within first 10 mins and thereafter is downward action for rest of the day post earnings release.

Similarly, roti you said many will gap down tmr. I think that is  misleading, most will open lower but that's not called gap down. ie. only  if Capitaland open's at 2.97 or lower then that's considered gap down opening. Given Fri's long white/ green candle, its hard for it to open with a gap down, yes with a  lower opening.

Roti looks like you're undecided, you mentioned on Sat  of having a bullish bias and today turned bearish. Must be due to  mood swings. *chuckles*

muifan      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 09:42) Posted:



GOod morning Roti,

Yeap will cut at the start at GAP DOWN and will take a 3  cent loss THAT IS IF CHAI SHEN YE

is happy to let the    GAP DOWN  not LOWER THAN 1.38 hehe

However, there is also the theory of filling the gap mentioned by Master Gaecia...

which my MR G friend is in lined with...thus he told me , in his opinion,

the better time to cut is Wednesday or Thur, of cos he is not god, he can be wrong too..

what do you think roti


 

 
rotijai
    10-Jul-2011 22:35  
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ops..  i got my definition wrong.

sry all masters and thank master gaecia..

yea wat i meant is tmr many counters will open lower..

nono i am decided (but worry at the same time tat i might be wrong)

i am bullish this month and bearish over this weekend, meaning tmr will be a red morning (at least)..

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:40) Posted:



First & foremost, you need to understand the concept of gap down. Pls search candlestick gap down definition on google, investopedia etc.

Opening gap down is only if opening price has a gap/ void  from previous trading  day's intraday low.  Assuming in stxosv opens at  1.38 & above, this is effectively  not called gap down => implies lower opening from Friday.

Muifan i already mentioned there  can be massive throwing @opening but  why are you so keen to join them especially right at the opening seconds (especially if gap down)?  I already highlighted, you must learn to think and act like my sifu Juicy. She would've loved to buy from those people who will gamely enter forced sell bids to  sell  i can tell ya that. Remember the Noble tutorial and Gsp's dismal earnings last Nov? Gsp  opened at  2.09 came up to 2.16 intraday high within first 10 mins and thereafter is downward action for rest of the day post earnings release.

Similarly, roti you said many will gap down tmr. I think that is  misleading, most will open lower but that's not called gap down. ie. only  if Capitaland open's at 2.97 or lower then that's considered gap down opening. Given Fri's long white/ green candle, its hard for it to open with a gap down, yes with a  lower opening.

Roti looks like you're undecided, you mentioned on Sat  of having a bullish bias and today turned bearish. Must be due to  mood swings. *chuckles*

muifan      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 09:42) Posted:



GOod morning Roti,

Yeap will cut at the start at GAP DOWN and will take a 3  cent loss THAT IS IF CHAI SHEN YE

is happy to let the    GAP DOWN  not LOWER THAN 1.38 hehe

However, there is also the theory of filling the gap mentioned by Master Gaecia...

which my MR G friend is in lined with...thus he told me , in his opinion,

the better time to cut is Wednesday or Thur, of cos he is not god, he can be wrong too..

what do you think roti


 
 
muifan
    10-Jul-2011 20:31  
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SIFU RABBITFOOT, YOU ARE BEING FEATURED IN TRANSFORMER 3!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgT85BbhLTI
 
 
iPunter
    10-Jul-2011 20:04  
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Yup.. all's fine... been out fer a while... Smiley

Gaecia      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:52) Posted:

Hieee gd Sun  night ipunter, hav u had dinner?

iPunter      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:47) Posted:



People can easily turn bullish or bearish from day to day.

    Yesterday, they can be downright bearish...

            But tomrrow, they can instantly turn bullish.

                    This is why the market can 'play people like  fiddle'... Smiley




 
 
Gaecia
    10-Jul-2011 19:57  
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I'd been trying everyday  to short stxosv since  late last week  but my market maker  cfd provider won't allow/ no stock to lend. On cosco too, imagine how pissed i was.

bryansng      ( Date: 10-Jul-2011 19:54) Posted:



Yea... up down up down... when i tot it will go up. it went down.

 
 
bryansng
    10-Jul-2011 19:54  
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Yea... up down up down... when i tot it will go up. it went down.
 
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