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Bro Stockcham, you calls are a great help to almost all individual in SJ especially in this post... I'm one of those who enjoy reading ur posts always!!! Huat ah!!!
Stockcham ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 00:21) Posted:
My purpose are these. First, I share to new players on what is the best option to sell. Secondly, some new players amy have Mirach and don't know what to do with it. At least this give them some thoughts. Lastly, it give new players some thoughts before they chiong in Mirach again on Monday. Whatever, each have to make their own decision. Bro, you think I really so free to write so long just for people to guess meh. Very tired and time consuming to write you know...Lol! Good luck Bro! Huat ah!
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:39) Posted:
| yap, ktv yesterday, JB since morning with family, hehe. My 400 lots bot in at 0.29, 0.295, 0.32, 0.34 and 0.345. Smaller lots was bot as it went higher.Sold the 400 lots at 0.425, not comfortable with the trend and all others at 0.415. Then turn short at 0.445 and cover at 0.415, Q straight away after short, whew. I started to buy since abt 18c, but lucky having none when it fallllll. Honestly, what happen from monday onward, why guess, just wait and see la.
Bro novic is one I really hope the best for him, the feeling remind me of myself years back, everything i do is wrong ,sigh.
Now Im holding to only Geo ener, falling too, many sellers. Either cut lost on monday or keep it, depend on monday movement.
As for Hiap Tong, same posting to u as what I ust post to Bro novic, Im wrong !!! Im wrong!!! |
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Hello, bro stockcham, any view on biosensor???
Hi bro librajet and Stockcham, thanks guys for your concern. Maybe I'm not a good trader at the moment, so have decided to scale down my trades from Monday onwards. Make small trades and not thinking of making big trades to make back my big losses... Looks I shall end my year in bloody red for 2013.
Mirach is still a big concern for me, not sure what to do on Monday? Will it be a sell down all the way below 0.30 or a U-turn once hitting resistance at 0.30 up to 0.40 at closing... Cut or don't cut??? Puzzles me for days.
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:39) Posted:
yap, ktv yesterday, JB since morning with family, hehe. My 400 lots bot in at 0.29, 0.295, 0.32, 0.34 and 0.345. Smaller lots was bot as it went higher.Sold the 400 lots at 0.425, not comfortable with the trend and all others at 0.415. Then turn short at 0.445 and cover at 0.415, Q straight away after short, whew. I started to buy since abt 18c, but lucky having none when it fallllll. Honestly, what happen from monday onward, why guess, just wait and see la.
Bro novic is one I really hope the best for him, the feeling remind me of myself years back, everything i do is wrong ,sigh.
Now Im holding to only Geo ener, falling too, many sellers. Either cut lost on monday or keep it, depend on monday movement.
As for Hiap Tong, same posting to u as what I ust post to Bro novic, Im wrong !!! Im wrong!!!!
Stockcham ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:22) Posted:
Bro librajet, so did you go KTV yesterday?. You hosei lah. You got 500 lots, your counter up 2 pips, and my China Mining must up 33 pips to match you. Lol! I'm also just like you. When Mirach lao sai, first thing come into my mind is that Bro novice was in. At that time I also hope that he have sold! In the end, Bro novice did not. :(
As for Hiap Tong, I believe it will nove up. when it managed to recover from the previous low of 0.31 even though it did not reach 0,295, I feel it has a chance and that's why I wanted to buy it. When BBs ate up all of 0.33 and 0,335 at one go, it comes into my mind immediately that they don't give chance to sellers to withdraw and catch the shortist at the same time. They really bought them. I then decided to buy it straight at 0.34. I am more confident when during the Mirach's lao sai, Hiap Tong was affected and peoples started to throw until 0.32. Very soon, buyers came in again to push it up to 0.335. Anyway, we shall see how it goes.
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The purpose of this forum is to share info. It take guts to make a call because in stock trading, we are wrong very often.
It is unreasonable to expect someone to be 100% correct all the time.
I'm happy that bros appreciate it. I'm even happy that I was not flame when I made a wrong call. We can't monitor so many counters. So if any bros see any counters move or have potential, pls share so that we have a chance to make money. We all have the same purpose....that is to HUAT AH ! Good night and have a nice weekend!
Bro Stockcham, tks for sharing very generous of you :) Your call on ChinaEnv was mindblowing!! I almost fell off the bed when it moves 10pips up b4 I cud blink my eyes when mkt open that morning. Ha ha, I think You shud b in Guiness Book, Cheers!
Know yr kindness bro, we love u for all u have done. Mirach is very much unpredictable now, esp BBs have $$$. He can kill either parties, how to guess. I wld advise those without stock, just adopt a wait and see situation, dont rush in. For those holding stocks, sleep and rest well, may sound like bird word, but what can we do??? cheap can go cheaper, but can also u turn, how to guess, just pray la. Again, bro Stockcham, Im yr follower, tks.
Stockcham ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 00:21) Posted:
My purpose are these. First, I share to new players on what is the best option to sell. Secondly, some new players amy have Mirach and don't know what to do with it. At least this give them some thoughts. Lastly, it give new players some thoughts before they chiong in Mirach again on Monday. Whatever, each have to make their own decision. Bro, you think I really so free to write so long just for people to guess meh. Very tired and time consuming to write you know...Lol! Good luck Bro! Huat ah!
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:39) Posted:
| yap, ktv yesterday, JB since morning with family, hehe. My 400 lots bot in at 0.29, 0.295, 0.32, 0.34 and 0.345. Smaller lots was bot as it went higher.Sold the 400 lots at 0.425, not comfortable with the trend and all others at 0.415. Then turn short at 0.445 and cover at 0.415, Q straight away after short, whew. I started to buy since abt 18c, but lucky having none when it fallllll. Honestly, what happen from monday onward, why guess, just wait and see la.
Bro novic is one I really hope the best for him, the feeling remind me of myself years back, everything i do is wrong ,sigh.
Now Im holding to only Geo ener, falling too, many sellers. Either cut lost on monday or keep it, depend on monday movement.
As for Hiap Tong, same posting to u as what I ust post to Bro novic, Im wrong !!! Im wrong!!! |
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My purpose are these. First, I share to new players on what is the best option to sell. Secondly, some new players amy have Mirach and don't know what to do with it. At least this give them some thoughts. Lastly, it give new players some thoughts before they chiong in Mirach again on Monday. Whatever, each have to make their own decision. Bro, you think I really so free to write so long just for people to guess meh. Very tired and time consuming to write you know...Lol! Good luck Bro! Huat ah!
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:39) Posted:
yap, ktv yesterday, JB since morning with family, hehe. My 400 lots bot in at 0.29, 0.295, 0.32, 0.34 and 0.345. Smaller lots was bot as it went higher.Sold the 400 lots at 0.425, not comfortable with the trend and all others at 0.415. Then turn short at 0.445 and cover at 0.415, Q straight away after short, whew. I started to buy since abt 18c, but lucky having none when it fallllll. Honestly, what happen from monday onward, why guess, just wait and see la.
Bro novic is one I really hope the best for him, the feeling remind me of myself years back, everything i do is wrong ,sigh.
Now Im holding to only Geo ener, falling too, many sellers. Either cut lost on monday or keep it, depend on monday movement.
As for Hiap Tong, same posting to u as what I ust post to Bro novic, Im wrong !!! Im wrong!!!!
Stockcham ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:22) Posted:
Bro librajet, so did you go KTV yesterday?. You hosei lah. You got 500 lots, your counter up 2 pips, and my China Mining must up 33 pips to match you. Lol! I'm also just like you. When Mirach lao sai, first thing come into my mind is that Bro novice was in. At that time I also hope that he have sold! In the end, Bro novice did not. :(
As for Hiap Tong, I believe it will nove up. when it managed to recover from the previous low of 0.31 even though it did not reach 0,295, I feel it has a chance and that's why I wanted to buy it. When BBs ate up all of 0.33 and 0,335 at one go, it comes into my mind immediately that they don't give chance to sellers to withdraw and catch the shortist at the same time. They really bought them. I then decided to buy it straight at 0.34. I am more confident when during the Mirach's lao sai, Hiap Tong was affected and peoples started to throw until 0.32. Very soon, buyers came in again to push it up to 0.335. Anyway, we shall see how it goes.
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Bro Tiencheong,
For the resistance and support, I looked at the chart. It was in fact the previous high and low. I don't read too complicated into the chart because I don't have the time to draw line or what. I think this is sufficient as you can see from my previous postings it is quite ok.
As for spotting new counters, I have shared this before. I will watch the top 30% gainers every trading days to see which counters chiong with volumn. At least must have 1000 lots up. Then I will look at the chart. If I find that the counter has risen from their low with improve volumn, I will keep it in my watchlist. E.g. of improve volumn is that if a counter's daily volumn is usually 200lots-300lots, then it becomes more than 1000lots, then must monitor liao. Some of them will dies off but some will move some more with even better volumn. Another way to spot counters is that I will go to
www.shareinvestor.com to check glance through the top volumn and top gainer. This website allows me to see the top vloumn from the highest to the lowest, or top gainer from the most gain to the least instead of only top 30 or top 50. I will look out for counters that close day hgih and outsider counters that move up with volumn. The best type of outsider counters are those with a few thousands lots(2000-4000) trading volumn. After that, I will also keep in my watchlist and then see the chart just like what I did mentioned above. You see, many hot counters starts from cold counters. They started with low volumn to high volumn. Just like ISDN, I started to play this when it was 20 over cents. And Hiap tong?. If you read my previous post, I mentioned this counter when the trading volumn was still low. I upated my watchlist regularly. Those which doesn't move for a long time after just 1 chiong and dies off I will delete them and add new one. Those in my watchlist will be there for sometimes before I delete them. When a counter have potential, it will move up, rest and move up again. I looked at the movement of all the counters in my watchlist everyday. When market close, I will go through those counters in my watchlist that have special movement(either up or down a lot). Those no movement one no need to see. I have 40 counters in my watchlist.
For China Mining, it is in my watchlist. A few days ago I asked to watch this counter. It moves up to 0.075 and then drop back to close at 0.67. for the next 3 days it drop down. on the 4th day it went up again to close at its previous high of 0.075. So I monitor it closely on Friday. This counter day buy sell queue is usually less than 100 lots and with price spread. But on Friday, the sell queue at a few pips up are all a few hundred lots with no price spread. This is very unusual as mentioned in my previous post. I bought straight at 0.073 even though the buy queue lots are only 42lots and sell queue more than 300 lots.
It is important to understand a counter's daily buy sell queue and traded volumn.
Hope the aobe is useful to you.
Huat ah!
Tiencheong ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:23) Posted:
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Bro stockcham, what are the criteria you set to determine the resistance and support levels of those counters you monitor? Was also wondering how many counters you monitor to spot the potential to move? This comes to my mind when you mentioned counters like Asiatic and china mining cos these counters are actually quite cold. |
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oh yes Bro Jfierce, past lost is gone, it shouldnt disturb u on yr next trading. Many bcos eager to recoup what they lost, they end up trying to sell at higher price, trade in higher vol, NO!!!!!!! Every trade is new, gain is past, lost is also past. Take yr time and adopt a style or system that make u make money, u want to make longggggg and biggggg money hehehe.
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:46) Posted:
Hi Bro Jfierce, honestly what I think is not impt, Im not a chart reader. I go with mkt trend and trading pattern, so I have no idea what will happen on monday. Why take high risk on doubt?? Mirach BBs have the $$$$ to play out shortists, u dare to short??? But it look normal Mirach has turns weak or the actual strenght reveal, overbought. As for Hiap Tong, i repeatedly saying, big vol still selling down the price, Im not comfortable, but again its my view. Bro, to make $$$ in the mkt, u must have a system yourself. Cheers and good luck.
Jfierce ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 22:43) Posted:
bro librajet... u also think these 2 counters cannot play already? guess must find new counter to recoup the burned losses: (
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Hi Bro Jfierce, honestly what I think is not impt, Im not a chart reader. I go with mkt trend and trading pattern, so I have no idea what will happen on monday. Why take high risk on doubt?? Mirach BBs have the $$$$ to play out shortists, u dare to short??? But it look normal Mirach has turns weak or the actual strenght reveal, overbought. As for Hiap Tong, i repeatedly saying, big vol still selling down the price, Im not comfortable, but again its my view. Bro, to make $$$ in the mkt, u must have a system yourself. Cheers and good luck.
Jfierce ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 22:43) Posted:
bro librajet... u also think these 2 counters cannot play already? guess must find new counter to recoup the burned losses: (
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yap, ktv yesterday, JB since morning with family, hehe. My 400 lots bot in at 0.29, 0.295, 0.32, 0.34 and 0.345. Smaller lots was bot as it went higher.Sold the 400 lots at 0.425, not comfortable with the trend and all others at 0.415. Then turn short at 0.445 and cover at 0.415, Q straight away after short, whew. I started to buy since abt 18c, but lucky having none when it fallllll. Honestly, what happen from monday onward, why guess, just wait and see la.
Bro novic is one I really hope the best for him, the feeling remind me of myself years back, everything i do is wrong ,sigh.
Now Im holding to only Geo ener, falling too, many sellers. Either cut lost on monday or keep it, depend on monday movement.
As for Hiap Tong, same posting to u as what I ust post to Bro novic, Im wrong !!! Im wrong!!!!
Stockcham ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 23:22) Posted:
Bro librajet, so did you go KTV yesterday?. You hosei lah. You got 500 lots, your counter up 2 pips, and my China Mining must up 33 pips to match you. Lol! I'm also just like you. When Mirach lao sai, first thing come into my mind is that Bro novice was in. At that time I also hope that he have sold! In the end, Bro novice did not. :(
As for Hiap Tong, I believe it will nove up. when it managed to recover from the previous low of 0.31 even though it did not reach 0,295, I feel it has a chance and that's why I wanted to buy it. When BBs ate up all of 0.33 and 0,335 at one go, it comes into my mind immediately that they don't give chance to sellers to withdraw and catch the shortist at the same time. They really bought them. I then decided to buy it straight at 0.34. I am more confident when during the Mirach's lao sai, Hiap Tong was affected and peoples started to throw until 0.32. Very soon, buyers came in again to push it up to 0.335. Anyway, we shall see how it goes.
Huat ah!
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 22:26) Posted:
Bro novic, honestly I was very shock u jump in on fri. When u post u were in, my only hope was I was wrong in my view. I posted whole day the trading pattern was weird, very uncomfortable. When it goes above yr buying price, i was praying , sell sell sell, but u were quiet the whole afternoon. Eventually it became a fallen knife, my heart sink for u, pls pls sell but u didnt post. Bro, I really wish u luck in all yr balance counters esp Hiap Tong, hope Im very very wrong this time. lastly, take thing easy and rest well, cheers.  |
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Bro stockcham, what are the criteria you set to determine the resistance and support levels of those counters you monitor? Was also wondering how many counters you monitor to spot the potential to move? This comes to my mind when you mentioned counters like Asiatic and china mining cos these counters are actually quite cold.
Bro librajet, so did you go KTV yesterday?. You hosei lah. You got 500 lots, your counter up 2 pips, and my China Mining must up 33 pips to match you. Lol! I'm also just like you. When Mirach lao sai, first thing come into my mind is that Bro novice was in. At that time I also hope that he have sold! In the end, Bro novice did not. :(
As for Hiap Tong, I believe it will nove up. when it managed to recover from the previous low of 0.31 even though it did not reach 0,295, I feel it has a chance and that's why I wanted to buy it. When BBs ate up all of 0.33 and 0,335 at one go, it comes into my mind immediately that they don't give chance to sellers to withdraw and catch the shortist at the same time. They really bought them. I then decided to buy it straight at 0.34. I am more confident when during the Mirach's lao sai, Hiap Tong was affected and peoples started to throw until 0.32. Very soon, buyers came in again to push it up to 0.335. Anyway, we shall see how it goes.
Huat ah!
librajet ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 22:26) Posted:
Bro novic, honestly I was very shock u jump in on fri. When u post u were in, my only hope was I was wrong in my view. I posted whole day the trading pattern was weird, very uncomfortable. When it goes above yr buying price, i was praying , sell sell sell, but u were quiet the whole afternoon. Eventually it became a fallen knife, my heart sink for u, pls pls sell but u didnt post. Bro, I really wish u luck in all yr balance counters esp Hiap Tong, hope Im very very wrong this time. lastly, take thing easy and rest well, cheers.
novice_trader ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 01:25) Posted:
Think at 4.40pm panic starts... Sell queue disappear suddenly and Buy vol increase... Buy maybe 3000 lots and Sell only 30 lots, then disappear sell vol and drop 1 pip, then 2 pips then from 0.47 or 0.465 drop to 0.445 I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, too fast and My screw up StarHub 4G sucks as always lagging. Then great sell dwn to 0.40, stop awhile and drop to 0.36 I think, that's where I almost faint.... $1.5k profit in a flash to lost of $2k... Reminds me of the great rowsely drop on a Friday, Friday again, that day I lost $4k as well... OMG. Crazy week I have...
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bro librajet... u also think these 2 counters cannot play already? guess must find new counter to recoup the burned losses: (
Bro novic, honestly I was very shock u jump in on fri. When u post u were in, my only hope was I was wrong in my view. I posted whole day the trading pattern was weird, very uncomfortable. When it goes above yr buying price, i was praying , sell sell sell, but u were quiet the whole afternoon. Eventually it became a fallen knife, my heart sink for u, pls pls sell but u didnt post. Bro, I really wish u luck in all yr balance counters esp Hiap Tong, hope Im very very wrong this time. lastly, take thing easy and rest well, cheers.
novice_trader ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 01:25) Posted:
Think at 4.40pm panic starts... Sell queue disappear suddenly and Buy vol increase... Buy maybe 3000 lots and Sell only 30 lots, then disappear sell vol and drop 1 pip, then 2 pips then from 0.47 or 0.465 drop to 0.445 I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, too fast and My screw up StarHub 4G sucks as always lagging. Then great sell dwn to 0.40, stop awhile and drop to 0.36 I think, that's where I almost faint.... $1.5k profit in a flash to lost of $2k... Reminds me of the great rowsely drop on a Friday, Friday again, that day I lost $4k as well... OMG. Crazy week I have...
I believe it's the BB who is offloading not shorting...
iluvboost ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 00:21) Posted:
regarding the selldown, i dont think its naked shorts, cos its too near market close.
although i didnt monitor the buy queue, i think its selldown to create panic. if their fake buy q disappear, only left retailers, they dump to retailers.... mayb wil have 2 wks of quiet distribution.
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Dont touch for the time being, money can be made but wait, see what BBs do first. Gain less better then lose .
Stockcham ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 18:06) Posted:
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Taking Mirach as an example, I have this to share.
1) Remember in the previous post I mentioned that the resistance for Mirach is 0.40, 0.45 and 0.52?. When I mentioned about resistance, what I mean is that the counter have to close above the resistance level at the end of the day. When Mirach crossed 0.40, it tested 0.45 which you can see on Friday that it tried to break. Finally it managed to break. When Mirach came down from 0.48 to 0.46-0.465, it is natural that people still hold on to it because of the previous trading pattern. Here is the important point. You will have to always keep in mind the resistance level. When it came down to below the resistance which for this case is 0.45, it will likely not close above the resistance price for the day and high chance it will drop the next day. I am referring to counter that chiong a lot up. So the safer decision to make when you encounter this is to SELL when the counter comes down below the resistance price which it has just break. I may have shared too late but this kind of situation is very common. It is good to know for your future trading.
2) In a situation like Mirach where the selling pressure is so great or when market sentiment is very poor, it is better to sell it before price matching time. This will likely save you 1-2 pips because high chance it will close day low. For Mirach’s case, it has risen so much and during the lao sai, it is natural that people will try to get out during the matching time as they worry more downs in the next trading session.
So what will happen to Mirach on Monday?. I will make a guess here. A few scenarios I can think of. There is a slight support at 0.36 and resistance will go back to 0.40.
1) As we know, there will tons of people waiting to short sell on Monday. I don’t think there is so easy money to make. I believe it may open gap down at 0.37 which is the open and close price for 2 trading days. They will push it down to support of 0.36 and then move up again to catch the shortist and lure peoples in. Shortist will then rush to cover and helps to move it to 0.40 or cross it by about 1-2 to pips. After which, it will comes down again to test 0.36 and break it.
2) It will open gap down at support price of 0.36 and move up, or maybe drop 1-2 pip down and then move up again to 0.40. After that. It will come down the same way as the above and break it.
3) It will open gap down at any price above 0.36 and touch the support. After that, move up again to test 0.40. Didn’t not manage to cross 0.40 resistance but able to maintain green at close. The next day lao sai again.
4) Open 1-2 pip higher and starts to move up to 0.40 or 1-2 pip above it. After that, it will go down to test 0.36 and rebound. The rebound is not real. It will go down again and break it.
5) Open gap down below 0.36. This is usually bye bye liao. But I don’t think this will happen because I don’t think BBs will let shortists make easy money.
6) Open gap down, touch 0.36 and then chiong up and close above 0.40.
I don’t think it will open at 0.385(same as close price in last trading).Taking into consideration 13.7 mil short sell on Friday, I personally don’t think it can close above 0.40 on Monday. I believe chances of either Scenario 1,2 & 4 will happen. If I still have Mirach, I will queue sell at 0.395-0.40 first early morning before market open. If it is expected to open at 0.36 or 0.37, I will not matched but give a cut off at 0.345.
Lai, make a guess! Which scenario do you think will happen?. Or any bro can think of any scenario different from the above.
Huat ah!
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thanks bro stockcham! I think I will pass then.. I am low risk taker. hope u are enjoying the wkend with ur family!
Bro Stockcham, thanks for sharing. Really appreciate your sharing.
Wow Bro, even if I have a doctorate drgree I also don't know how to answer your question. Those scenarios are just my guess. Anything can happen. Of course there is possibility to make but the risk is high. If you dare, maybe you can make money. High risk high return. Only daring people make big money. Frankly, I don't dare to touch. Even if I want to touch it, I prefer to short sell at 0.40. At least the risk is not so high. But I won't short because quite a number of bros here got Mirach.
Jfierce ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 18:33) Posted:
| or should I queue buy more at. 365 and try to sell at .395 to cover loss? |
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