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I share with you guys 1 time only ok :)
PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )
BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers.
Ok give you 1 simple case study.
ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm.
They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)
Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand.
Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.
0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter.
Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted.
In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account.
Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.
Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. (Sell high buy Low)
AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.(Buy Low Sell High)
At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :)
Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit.
Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.
This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe
I share with you guys 1 time only ok :)
PT = Proprietary trader are firm's traders which they actively trade stocks using house money (Sharing profit & lost with the firm) are the Real Big Boys behind all the movement of stocks. ( You seen prices of share @ opening & closing @ many times higher than the actual stock price ? These are the work of PT )
BB = including big time remisiers, Margin Players, Syndicates, and big Private retail gamblers.
Ok give you 1 simple case study.
ABC is PT trader in X1 firm. AAA is PT trader in X2 firm. They are both friends working in different company but they will someone meet up after work to discuss the plan for tomorrow :)
Code sign to sell, buy, hold, Shorting and the list of target stocks for tomorrow game plan. I cannot go into further details of that hope you understand. Anyway one of them will be Shorter and 1 of the buyer.
0830 - 08:59 Pre - Trading. By this time they already know which stocks to enter. Usually when the market sentiments are bad. The Short account will start shorting. They usually will create a strong selling presence in the stock they targeted.
In this case ABC is shorter. ABC decided to throw a huge road block of 2000 lots on the sell queue. There comes the selling pressure when he off loaded huge amount of stocks like 1000 - 2000 to buy account. Letting the share price falls other weaker holders (Contra players) will started to sell where the AAA account will buy up more shares at lower price. Thus averaging down its holder share price.
Once AAA account has hold enough amount of shares. The Short account will started to cover its position therefore pushing up the price. It will eat up fast covering most of its short at a lower price so ABC can make a profit. AAA will make a profit because he is selling its shares at a higher price as ABC is covering its short position.
At least 10-15% of the volume will be sold to retail players as they chase the price. Soon after the share didnt move :) Many will wonder why .... so much volume leh but it falls or didnt move at all. Because you are the last man holding the ball ; all shares have been covered and BB already exit.
Usually all these trades are done Intraday - All done in 1 day.
This is just 1 small simple example. Trading has much more tricks than this. Good luck. I might reveal more .... maybe
Really, no strong reason for d global markets to crawl faster, though d Sept dips syndrome being ruled out. Now, US n China added oil into d BBQ pit, may got burn by d side flash of hot oil, big wok loh.
Ha ha, iP, dear comrade, AK MFT's talk also warrant a good post ah, too cheap liao lah. Much wish to see CW back on board again, had dropped her a per note, but still at large.
See ghost one time, now if I drink, even half a glass, dare not hold d car key liao. Enjoying driving ard, ie sea side, seafoods, see see look look etc. Cheers.
iPunter ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:20) Posted:
I gave Uncle AK a good post... 
Then I also buy him a bottle of Carlesberg (only one bottle today, so he can drive straight and slow)... hehehe... 
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Absolutely. But if you play, play cautiously.
Laulan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 11:22) Posted:
The less I play the least I need to feed them, right?
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 11:15) Posted:
| Honestly, if no body loses money, then who will feed the brokers, their wives and children and their bosses and family? See if you can answer this question. Think harder if you cannot find an answer. Hahaha. |
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The less I play the least I need to feed them, right?
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 11:15) Posted:
| Honestly, if no body loses money, then who will feed the brokers, their wives and children and their bosses and family? See if you can answer this question. Think harder if you cannot find an answer. Hahaha. |
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Honestly, if no body loses money, then who will feed the brokers, their wives and children and their bosses and family? See if you can answer this question. Think harder if you cannot find an answer. Hahaha.
Yup...
As long as the urge of greed is present, people will continue to lose money...
Because losing money in the stock market is a continuous and unending process for most people...
greed will only end when lightling strikes you, anyway round 1 had ended, wait for round 2....
hahaha...
True to your nick...
Great post!
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:19) Posted:
Afraid of what? What does PT stands for? Pit trader? Actually husband and wife can do it also. This generates alot of volumes and I am sure is being played by many syndicates. But you can also do it yourself by placing 1000 lot at buy price and 1000 lots at sell price if you have borrowed shares in your acct. These trade secrets are revealed for traders so that they understand why prices move. In fact it is not a secret but an excercise of the minds making all things possible. Don't be selfish lah.
risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:03) Posted:
| talk too much already. This kind of technique usually done by few PT. Please do not post this kind of stuff on this forum. Thanx
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I gave
Uncle AK a good post...
Then I also buy him a bottle of Carlesberg (only one bottle today, so he can drive straight and slow)... hehehe...
Afraid of what? What does PT stands for? Pit trader? Actually husband and wife can do it also. This generates alot of volumes and I am sure is being played by many syndicates. But you can also do it yourself by placing 1000 lot at buy price and 1000 lots at sell price if you have borrowed shares in your acct. These trade secrets are revealed for traders so that they understand why prices move. In fact it is not a secret but an excercise of the minds making all things possible. Don't be selfish lah.
risktaker ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:03) Posted:
talk too much already. This kind of technique usually done by few PT. Please do not post this kind of stuff on this forum. Thanx
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:02) Posted:
| But I don't know whether this is legal or not |
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Ha ha, d ging gang could be exe their trick quitely. Instead of clearing another, say 9% again at merry deal, with down premium, to clear them in d riding heat of R issue is more viable. Fr start of 1.24 to yesterday , kau jaw liao, simply enough to raise "stake" loh. Imagine, both d institution n ging gang still holding dons of stock with $0.60 R issue got them in d last R issue period.
They r now in A380 outbound to Macau liao, with hundreds of yr old wine, laughing n celebrating along d way. Where got mercy to those now struggling n wondering old uncles n aunties.
talk too much already. This kind of technique usually done by few PT. Please do not post this kind of stuff on this forum. Thanx
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 10:02) Posted:
But I don't know whether this is legal or not.
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:55) Posted:
| It is possible to team up, but we need brokers who can give us some discount as trading will heavy |
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But I don't know whether this is legal or not.
keepnosecrets ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:55) Posted:
It is possible to team up, but we need brokers who can give us some discount as trading will heavy.
AnthonyTan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:27) Posted:
| Tks keepnosecrets, can we use the same tactic to make $$$$$$$$ |
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It is possible to team up, but we need brokers who can give us some discount as trading will heavy.
AnthonyTan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:27) Posted:
| Tks keepnosecrets, can we use the same tactic to make $$$$$$$$ |
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The rights' 'strike' is .8...
Buying at that price should be good deal, but it is even possible for it to go below .8 too...
ie. If the market 'double bottom' comes to pass later...
No matter how, Genting SP should stabilize at certain price level. How much? That is the share game for........
iPunter ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:43) Posted:
Yes, but uncles and aunties can make the market fall and fall when the big boys take a long break...
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Yes, but uncles and aunties can make the market fall and fall when the big boys take a long break...
Over half hour of trading, oni vol slightly over 8,000,000 shares done for "hoon teng"
The BB are taking a break. Uncles and Aunties are playing.
First one must learn how to trade kacang puteh before one graduates to the wholesale godown trading... hehehe...
Better stil,l don't play at all...
AnthonyTan ( Date: 15-Sep-2009 09:27) Posted:
| Tks keepnosecrets, can we use the same tactic to make $$$$$$$$ |
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