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kellychang
    04-Mar-2010 20:29  
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aiya...

u said de mah..

no matter bull or bear, still can win money..

follow the chart, follow the trend, follow the market..

well, to me, now sti dunno what is going to happen , because still heading for no direction.

but look individual, well, capitaland, genting, CMA  etc...look reading to head down liao.

since index stock head down? then?

hmm....dunno la....




iPunter      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 20:24) Posted:



When I post 'hard-hitting' comments, many are so angry because they have strong opinions, eg it's a bull market.

They should take it like words from the original 'Amercian Idol' judges, who really meant to be constructive.

There's no room to be personal in the stock market.

hehehe... Smiley

 
 
iPunter
    04-Mar-2010 20:24  
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When I post 'hard-hitting' comments, many are so angry because they have strong opinions, eg it's a bull market.

They should take it like words from the original 'Amercian Idol' judges, who really meant to be constructive.

There's no room to be personal in the stock market.

hehehe... Smiley
 
 
iPunter
    04-Mar-2010 20:16  
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Andrew is my kind of guy!

You simply rock! ...

hehehe...   Smiley
 

 
Livermore
    04-Mar-2010 20:10  
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In bull market buy and hold but watch the chart that it is still on uptrend. In bear market, short sell and hold
 
 
Andrew
    04-Mar-2010 20:08  
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I have a friend who CFD in 2007......loss big time.  So he when to acc. stock in 2008......even bigger time.  Then come 2009.....start sell in late March......unthinkable.....really.

After Lehman, it is a very different arena......

If you are here long enough........many are long gone.  Singporegirl are you still here.....a super chartist.



out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 19:25) Posted:



Involve in warran also... the event is either you make alot or lose alot. In 2007 starting of the financial crisis band on warran on the wrong side and keep going into reverse direction. Share consoludation is also worse when 100 shaft to 1 share so don't think 0.005 is bottom can't go any low when consoludation 100 to 1 means 0.5 but when open it drops all the way to 0.01. Any China Milk case.....  Yes, we'll be smarter but luck play a part

 
 
iPunter
    04-Mar-2010 19:37  
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That's the problem with leveraged instruments (warrants, margin accounts, etc)...

The player often forgets to pay attention  to the leverage factor simply because the outlay seems so nominal.

Thus overtrading is common, especially if one goes in with the intention to 'make it big'. Smiley



 

 
out-of-the-box
    04-Mar-2010 19:25  
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Involve in warran also... the event is either you make alot or lose alot. In 2007 starting of the financial crisis band on warran on the wrong side and keep going into reverse direction. Share consoludation is also worse when 100 shaft to 1 share so don't think 0.005 is bottom can't go any low when consoludation 100 to 1 means 0.5 but when open it drops all the way to 0.01. Any China Milk case.....  Yes, we'll be smarter but luck play a part
 
 
iPunter
    04-Mar-2010 15:40  
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How one can lose 200k, etc in the stock market is beyond me...

hehehe... Smiley
 
 
alexchia01
    04-Mar-2010 15:36  
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You should evaluate your investment strategy.

You could be using the wrong strategy for the wrong type of trade you want to do.

There are short-term trading strategies, mid-term trading strategies, long-term investment strategies and shorting strategies.

Before you start trading in any stocks, you should already know which strategy you want to use.

Never choose a stock that is good from shorting and use a long-term investment strategy on that stock. This is a sure way to get killed in the stock market.




out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 10:29) Posted:

Already paid over 200K in "tution fee" last crisis and 2010 get into stock market again start to make small buck and now in negative zone again so pill up greater losses... what do you think? Some win some lose but I think those who has got finance back up eventually win and for those in careful long term investment win.. and the great winner is SGX (like Casion dealer always win) 

 
 
alexchia01
    04-Mar-2010 15:21  
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I disagree with this.

Going long is much easier than playing short.

If he cannot make money by going long, how can he be making money from shorting?

I think his strategy for trading and investing is wrong.

Or he is too emotionally involved in the stocks he's trading. Hold when his is suppose to sell and sell when he is suppose to be buying.

The biggest mistakes in investing is trading without strategy and trading with emotion.



hotokee      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 11:21) Posted:

Because you invest.  Invest means buy and keep or long.  You need money and must have money to invest.  You must be a rich guy. The market needs your money.

You gamble when you short.  You don't need to be a rich guy to short. Shorting no need base capital (pen_qian).  If your trading limit allows, you can even short a million dollars, and a player not easy to find a million to pay for the shares you sold to them. Analysing this logic you find that shorting is better.



out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 10:29) Posted:

Already paid over 200K in "tution fee" last crisis and 2010 get into stock market again start to make small buck and now in negative zone again so pill up greater losses... what do you think? Some win some lose but I think those who has got finance back up eventually win and for those in careful long term investment win.. and the great winner is SGX (like Casion dealer always win) 


 

 
alexchia01
    04-Mar-2010 15:15  
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I disagree with this.

Going long is much easier than playing short.

If he cannot make money by going long, how can he be making money from shorting?

I think his strategy for trading and investing is wrong.

Or he is too emotionally involved in the stocks he's trading. Hold when his is suppose to sell and sell when he is suppose to be buying.

The biggest mistakes in investing is trading without strategy and trading with emotion.



iPunter      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 10:56) Posted:

I think the fundamental problem why you didn't benefit from your stock market play is the simple fact that you only play one side,

ie. I believe you only play long all the time, regardless of market conditions.

This is the biggest mistake of all. Smiley 



out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 10:29) Posted:

Already paid over 200K in "tution fee" last crisis and 2010 get into stock market again start to make small buck and now in negative zone again so pill up greater losses... what do you think? Some win some lose but I think those who has got finance back up eventually win and for those in careful long term investment win.. and the great winner is SGX (like Casion dealer always win) 


 
 
niuyear
    04-Mar-2010 14:17  
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I love to see Ho Chin to become CEO of  SGX.  For a change., a lady to head SGX. 

Those GCE 'A' level students tomorrow after taking your results, you may apply online to be SGX scholar .



beruangface      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 11:46) Posted:

SGX should not be privatised! Simply list China companies and no proper check of their prospectus and financial statements, they can't just rely on the external auditors, and China companies default in bond payment and commit fraud, what SGX can do?

 
 
pharoah88
    04-Mar-2010 13:47  
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iS CFD trade relected iN CDP Statement?

CFD iS TRADiNG AGAiNST the Market Maker?

dOes the Market Maker really hOlds the relevant stOck?

there iS nO authOrity LiKE CDP tO  cOnfirm THiS? 
 
 
hotokee
    04-Mar-2010 13:40  
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Ah right! Shorting rule is only preventing the small guy from making too much money shorting in a downtrend or even uptrend.

The brokerages and banks can hide their smiles just borrowing from their own pool which they sometimes lend to you.



out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 11:35) Posted:

Short must cover within the same day otherwise penalty. Short with CFD only trade within poems cliental. Can someone share with my specially nickyng where can I get CFD a/c to trade with generally cliental?

 
 
iPunter
    04-Mar-2010 11:49  
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This is the "Utimate Quote Of The Day"... Smiley

rabbitfoot      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 11:38) Posted:



This "Tuition Fee" thing in stock market is a fallacy. You will still commit the same thing again and again.

 

 
beruangface
    04-Mar-2010 11:46  
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SGX should not be privatised! Simply list China companies and no proper check of their prospectus and financial statements, they can't just rely on the external auditors, and China companies default in bond payment and commit fraud, what SGX can do?
 
 
rabbitfoot
    04-Mar-2010 11:38  
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This "Tuition Fee" thing in stock market is a fallacy. You will still commit the same thing again and again.
 
 
out-of-the-box
    04-Mar-2010 11:35  
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Short must cover within the same day otherwise penalty. Short with CFD only trade within poems cliental. Can someone share with my specially nickyng where can I get CFD a/c to trade with generally cliental?
 
 
hotokee
    04-Mar-2010 11:21  
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Because you invest.  Invest means buy and keep or long.  You need money and must have money to invest.  You must be a rich guy. The market needs your money.

You gamble when you short.  You don't need to be a rich guy to short. Shorting no need base capital (pen_qian).  If your trading limit allows, you can even short a million dollars, and a player not easy to find a million to pay for the shares you sold to them. Analysing this logic you find that shorting is better.



out-of-the-box      ( Date: 04-Mar-2010 10:29) Posted:

Already paid over 200K in "tution fee" last crisis and 2010 get into stock market again start to make small buck and now in negative zone again so pill up greater losses... what do you think? Some win some lose but I think those who has got finance back up eventually win and for those in careful long term investment win.. and the great winner is SGX (like Casion dealer always win) 

 
 
hotokee
    04-Mar-2010 11:11  
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SGX never reach the global "class/status/reputation" for stock investments and I am afraid it can try very hard and not attain world class, unless it re-examines and changes it direction.
 
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