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haha...agree... i am a woman also...

what the guy can do, we also can do...

nowadays woman not only stay at home, look after baby...

but also have to work to support the family...

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:08) Posted: sometimes i do regret arguing .with guy here, but i dont feel sorry for them...esp stubborn guy.. i love quarrelling with guy, because they are guy..who care...like they say...faceless... woman are now snmarter,,...most school principle are woman...great engineer of the society.

 

sometimes i do regret arguing .with guy here, but i dont feel sorry for them...esp stubborn guy..

i love quarrelling with guy, because they are guy..who care...like they say...faceless...

woman are now snmarter,,...most school principle are woman...great engineer of the society.

 

I can also see recovery around. Projects getting more.

Hope it is the start of the chapter of ECONOMY RECOVERY.

Cheers

 

yes,,,talking abt profit margin...i thk this yr a lot of good profit could be due to short work wk and job cut and pay cut...soreally nothing to shout abt?

 

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 20:06) Posted: in Atlanta..... well...dun see US, just see singapore... well, u can see beauty saloon, restaurant, fashion shop etc...everyday got discount... well....i now can even use 15 dollars to eat one set lunch ( include main course + soup+drink+cake) in jack place... or that 1 for 1 swensen lunch set meal... see, so many discount things in singapore also.... so u see....even the net profit increase, revenue increase...but profit margin?? cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:50) Posted: u are right, consumer are not spending, those data i do not know whether to belive, because the authority change this and that to their advantage.. like inflation...how can you exclude food and energy to arrive at the inflation figure??? but if they cover up, i dont thk they can go on and on...sooner or later it have to give way.... like Enron...like lehman bros.. why shd i give discount when i can sell !!..becos nobody buy..that is why. your friend which states...my brother is in Florida..got relative in California.,.Orange county. both are telling me horror things relate to cirses..

 

We dont really feel it here,but i hear factory order is comingin...last yr it was bad, i hear fr friend working in manufacturing..

but i was in that line before and have experience,,,the order can be intermittent...that means on and  off...so it is eratic,,

unless it is consistant..well we see...hope so..

we dont really want sti 1000..right???and all our friend lose their jobs...and it may get in the way of my business which so far not affected.

but i feel it is inevitable..if it have to be...let it come fast and go off fast...better this way..for us..

 

 

in Atlanta.....

well...dun see US, just see singapore...

well, u can see beauty saloon, restaurant, fashion shop etc...everyday got discount...

well....i now can even use 15 dollars to eat one set lunch ( include main course + soup+drink+cake) in jack place...

or that 1 for 1 swensen lunch set meal...

see, so many discount things in singapore also....

so u see....even the net profit increase, revenue increase...but profit margin??

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:50) Posted: u are right, consumer are not spending, those data i do not know whether to belive, because the authority change this and that to their advantage.. like inflation...how can you exclude food and energy to arrive at the inflation figure??? but if they cover up, i dont thk they can go on and on...sooner or later it have to give way.... like Enron...like lehman bros.. why shd i give discount when i can sell !!..becos nobody buy..that is why. your friend which states...my brother is in Florida..got relative in California.,.Orange county. both are telling me horror things relate to cirses.. kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:34) Posted: well...i am still remember that what happened in Oct 07...wave suddenly came, dun even got times to react... My fren in US told me, house price there very cheap now.... then branded stuffs in US also always got discount... even shampoo , foods etc is cheaper than in singapore... she told me, if higher price, nobody buy...that is... so, i just dun understand....is it sign that US economic turning good?

 

u are right, consumer are not spending, those data i do not know whether to belive, because the authority change this and that to their advantage..

like inflation...how can you exclude food and energy to arrive at the inflation figure???

but if they cover up, i dont thk they can go on and on...sooner or later it have to give way....

like Enron...like lehman bros..

why shd i give discount when i can sell !!..becos nobody buy..that is why.

your friend which states...my brother is in Florida..got relative in California.,.Orange county.

both are telling me horror things relate to cirses..

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:34) Posted: well...i am still remember that what happened in Oct 07...wave suddenly came, dun even got times to react... My fren in US told me, house price there very cheap now.... then branded stuffs in US also always got discount... even shampoo , foods etc is cheaper than in singapore... she told me, if higher price, nobody buy...that is... so, i just dun understand....is it sign that US economic turning good? cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:14) Posted: kellychang...u are wise...always gd to listen to woman, esp your own woman if u are married.. my old man are stubborn , that is how he  got cheated, and not once but twice...what the heck!!!..close to 1.5 m..and still in legal tussle...i thk he can recover little.. i told him so,. but he is like some here too carry away and optimistic..that is how he end up.. if u went to states...u will really see..so many houses forclosure..a common scenes..all mall are like ghost town..u say it is over... i say over my dead body...trillion doillar loses who pay....richtan???you pay...all forumer here pay??? nobody pay then how??someone got to pay..but no one can pay....so we let it pay itself off in a deep recession for a few years....it is fair...... when we are there.sti 1000..we will come back here triumph...

 

yes...agree..i have take some money off the table...it look like losing steam already..but i dont thk it is over now...

this sept may spring a surprise...dow will soar..i hope 9800 to 10000..

then i will throw back all to chase again..

DnApeh      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:08) Posted: i agree with you, especially on the cut early part. i feel that still got 1 more leg at least, although i myself have the fastest legs when it comes to running to Bt Timah hill. today afternoon was a sell down in many counters. many people are feeling cheated after the morning rush. so, most people will expect tomorrow to be down, especially tomorrow is friday. the market will decide which direction to take. i still haven't run road myself, but tomorrow may be the day. cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:59) Posted: OK, good question...i like this one...now what if i am wrong,which i conclude after reading expert opinions..., u say???..well you lose little..you just hop back in and join in the ride to prosperity.. but if i am right...and you are wrong. u lose big....why???very simple it take 6 mths for dow to climb fr 6547 to 9500..but it take just one to two mths to go back there ..and this round more pessimitic...ppl become more scare will definitely over sell to the extreme low...so dow 3800 is not impossible...and if you are stubborn and dont cut early,beforr u know...u are stuck... look at the chart...what u see...since you all like chart http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#chart3:symbol=^dji;range=1y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

 

well...i am still remember that what happened in Oct 07...wave suddenly came, dun even got times to react...

My fren in US told me, house price there very cheap now....

then branded stuffs in US also always got discount...

even shampoo , foods etc is cheaper than in singapore...

she told me, if higher price, nobody buy...that is...

so, i just dun understand....is it sign that US economic turning good?

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:14) Posted: kellychang...u are wise...always gd to listen to woman, esp your own woman if u are married.. my old man are stubborn , that is how he  got cheated, and not once but twice...what the heck!!!..close to 1.5 m..and still in legal tussle...i thk he can recover little.. i told him so,. but he is like some here too carry away and optimistic..that is how he end up.. if u went to states...u will really see..so many houses forclosure..a common scenes..all mall are like ghost town..u say it is over... i say over my dead body...trillion doillar loses who pay....richtan???you pay...all forumer here pay??? nobody pay then how??someone got to pay..but no one can pay....so we let it pay itself off in a deep recession for a few years....it is fair...... when we are there.sti 1000..we will come back here triumph... kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

kellychang...u are wise...always gd to listen to woman, esp your own woman if u are married..

my old man are stubborn , that is how he  got cheated, and not once but twice...what the heck!!!..close to 1.5 m..and still in legal tussle...i thk he can recover little..

i told him so,. but he is like some here too carry away and optimistic..that is how he end up..

if u went to states...u will really see..so many houses forclosure..a common scenes..all mall are like ghost town..u say it is over...

i say over my dead body...trillion doillar loses who pay....richtan???you pay...all forumer here pay???

nobody pay then how??someone got to pay..but no one can pay....so we let it pay itself off in a deep recession for a few years....it is fair......

when we are there.sti 1000..we will come back here triumph...

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

my shifu is very good in TA, but he only apply it in forex...

he said...stock market now very crazy...

even he good in TA, he also doesn apply TA in stock...

he told me something like cheongwee said..

well, now still too early to know whetehr economic is turning good...

but, he just told me that...market is overbought now....

investors are not buying for the next 1 year , but buying for the next 10 years....hahahahahahahha

 

i agree with you, especially on the cut early part.

i feel that still got 1 more leg at least, although i myself have the fastest legs when it comes to running to Bt Timah hill.

today afternoon was a sell down in many counters. many people are feeling cheated after the morning rush.

so, most people will expect tomorrow to be down, especially tomorrow is friday.

the market will decide which direction to take. i still haven't run road myself, but tomorrow may be the day.

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:59) Posted: OK, good question...i like this one...now what if i am wrong,which i conclude after reading expert opinions..., u say???..well you lose little..you just hop back in and join in the ride to prosperity.. but if i am right...and you are wrong. u lose big....why???very simple it take 6 mths for dow to climb fr 6547 to 9500..but it take just one to two mths to go back there ..and this round more pessimitic...ppl become more scare will definitely over sell to the extreme low...so dow 3800 is not impossible...and if you are stubborn and dont cut early,beforr u know...u are stuck... look at the chart...what u see...since you all like chart http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#chart3:symbol=^dji;range=1y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined Livermore      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:32) Posted: No harm riding on this uptrend to make some money then make nothing at all. Nobody can tell what is going to happen in future. What if your sifu is totally wrong?

 

TA is not infallible but tat does not mean it is lousy, just bcos u dun use TA does not mean it is lousy.

Nah.. u r absolutely wrong, I dun claim to be always right, in all my post I always mentioned 'dyodd n BOSAYOR as I may be right or wrong, I m no saint with divine powers" like u seems to claim to have.

Your mouth is yours, so say wat u want, there is no need for me to prove u wrong tat I did not miss the boat by following TA in March low, wat matters is profits in my bank account, no need to gloat how much I made in a forum, be modest n humble.

Tell tat to all TA practitioner tat TA is rubbish, lucky u r not modern day emperor "Chin Shih Huang Ti", otherwise u will oreder burning all TA books in the country n death penalty to those tat practice TA, n listen to your saintly all mighty divine powers, u must be better than GOD, hahaha...

Everyone has the right to reply to rebut, by rebuting does not mean being sensitive or pride, these are 2 different things.

Tell this "it is mostly man who are sensitive and like to live in their past" to your man, dun paint all man with one stroke of the brush.

So at least Warren Buffet is a man at least, spo man is not useless as u said ..hahaha

 

 

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:45) Posted: Dont listen to those analyst who base their call on TA...they are expert in TA and make ppl lose big time.. if TA are danmned good, they shd be buying stock and not making call....and since richtan said it is infallible..so it is...he agree that TA is lousy.. there u see... he even claim he is neutral....because he want to be always right...but i know he is the real one who is wrong and really miss the boat if he follow TA in March low.... you just listen and watch out for leading indicater that tell the economy..not analyst.and those TA...and dont waste your 2k to 3k to attend those rubbish TA seminar lesson conducted by analyst??u be sorry....better pay for a course to improve your job prospect... TA are nothing short of guessing game...collect previous traded data and computed into a nice graph...with many waves of multiple color and chart a future trend....so when it is uptrend...they say "oh it is mostly up .unless it cross.or it break...so on and so on...'..and when down...they will say mostly down.....and u know..they are mostly wrong all the time...all this look professional...but are 50/50 thing... way back in March alot of TA expert was shouting STI 1200...were u there!!!remember..and now they are bullish...wah STI now if not break  2500 will be 2900.by yr end....it is absurb...pure rubbish how to believe ppl are non judegement abt thing.....when u read, u will definitely form an opinion and arrive at a conclusion...unless u dont know what u are reading about... no wonder they look to the past to forcast the future. ...and to say he is no sensitive is a lied...then why is he posting to explain his view...look he is fighting for his pride, when he is telling everyone here he is neutral and ego means nothing....to him.. nothing is balance in this universe..try to be...u can never achieve it...only in your dream...man.. it is mostly man who are sensitive and like to live in their past. ..the next WB is a woman,,,   .

 

OK, good question...i like this one...now what if i am wrong,which i conclude after reading expert opinions..., u say???..well you lose little..you just hop back in and join in the ride to prosperity..

but if i am right...and you are wrong. u lose big....why???very simple it take 6 mths for dow to climb fr 6547 to 9500..but it take just one to two mths to go back there ..and this round more pessimitic...ppl become more scare will definitely over sell to the extreme low...so dow 3800 is not impossible...and if you are stubborn and dont cut early,beforr u know...u are stuck...

look at the chart...what u see...since you all like chart

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#chart3:symbol=^dji;range=1y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Livermore      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:32) Posted: No harm riding on this uptrend to make some money then make nothing at all. Nobody can tell what is going to happen in future. What if your sifu is totally wrong?  kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

Dont listen to those analyst who base their call on TA...they are expert in TA and make ppl lose big time..

if TA are danmned good, they shd be buying stock and not making call....and since richtan said it is infallible..so it is...he agree that TA is lousy..

there u see... he even claim he is neutral....because he want to be always right...but i know he is the real one who is wrong and really miss the boat if he follow TA in March low....

you just listen and watch out for leading indicater that tell the economy..not analyst.and those TA...and dont waste your 2k to 3k to attend those rubbish TA seminar lesson conducted by analyst??u be sorry....better pay for a course to improve your job prospect...

TA are nothing short of guessing game...collect previous traded data and computed into a nice graph...with many waves of multiple color and chart a future trend....so when it is uptrend...they say "oh it is mostly up .unless it cross.or it break...so on and so on...'..and when down...they will say mostly down.....and u know..they are mostly wrong all the time...all this look professional...but are 50/50 thing...

way back in March alot of TA expert was shouting STI 1200...were u there!!!remember..and now they are bullish...wah STI now if not break  2500 will be 2900.by yr end....it is absurb...pure rubbish

how to believe ppl are non judegement abt thing.....when u read, u will definitely form an opinion and arrive at a conclusion...unless u dont know what u are reading about...

no wonder they look to the past to forcast the future.

...and to say he is no sensitive is a lied...then why is he posting to explain his view...look he is fighting for his pride, when he is telling everyone here he is neutral and ego means nothing....to him..

nothing is balance in this universe..try to be...u can never achieve it...only in your dream...man..

it is mostly man who are sensitive and like to live in their past.

..the next WB is a woman,,,

 

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I have read enough of some of these so called sifus in internet and they have been wrong on quite a few occasions. At the end of the day make your own decisions. No hero worship 

 

No harm riding on this uptrend to make some money then make nothing at all. Nobody can tell what is going to happen in future. What if your sifu is totally wrong? 

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

I am choosing to just see the chart to determine when I should get out instead of listening or reading too much into these analysts and economists. They can say as much as they want but Mr Market is always right 

 

my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

 

Nsh... I dun play Mr. Bloom nor Mr. Gloom, I play Mr. Neutral, just share wat I read n non-judemental.

Dun worry, I enjoy every of my meals n sleep peacefully with sweetdreams as I know how to manage my trades n ignore all these noises, I m mechanical, knows when to cut-loss n when to let profits ride with trailing stops, honed by my years of TA trading n abiding by my 3 golden mantras.

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 17:36) Posted: sorry ...shd be time to be gloom, you play boom, and . time to be boom , you play gloom.. but no need to explain ..u know what i means.. but no need to be scare till cannot eat your dinner...i still see boom for now...but soon it will be gloomy....in fall...in fall...in fall..   cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 17:15) Posted: time to be gloom, you play doom and time to bloom, you play gloom...you are always on the wrong side....you lose big time... and to balance your view...how balance are you???are u sure u are not tilted to one side...there are not balance state in the universe....go and compare your left and right eye..i believe if u really see, you know one is bigger than the other and dont imply i miss the train or boat...i dont miss any...when i call this sucker rally, i was buying weeks before..look at my post below from 19 Apr..when i call...and i am in handsome profit..now. i believe those who do TA and FA miss the boat...just look at the TA , at that time, it was real bad...all point down...all doom...saying mrkt will hit even lower....all analyst call their worse...they use TA ...too much.. leading economic data are more accurate to tell the state ofthe economy... TA are nothing more then data collected of pass trading activity and computed to assume a future trend...this isn't the same as guessing...50/50???..now your turn to throw at me...dont thk woman can be bully... most man are hopeless...only want to listen to good things... and i still say this is a sucker rally...we see...who are right?...man or woman..   Master Posted: 19-Mar-2009 03:35       Contact cheongwee          *  Quote this Post! x 0 x 0 * Alert Admin Ladies and Gentleman, I think the mother of all sucker rally is here finally...make your buck to recover your losses previously...dont be too carry away..OK   .