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no, i dont thk so...but many who sold,since i call,,,,,will be shock ...come next week...
i told them Li Heng dont walk or run... ,,it fly....lucky jump back in at just the right time...
christan ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 16:57) Posted:
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short covering
all analyst s##k .tg px is 26c...so cheap.......i thk my freind is more chun...i will make him my personnal analyst...
i try not to call, but can see for yourself pls...i am seeing a px of ......
wow..what i hear is chun, man!!! ,just bought back only it start to gallop already...
cheongwee ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 11:04) Posted:
I am back to this one again, looking good... |
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No matter what Already sold mine at 0.25.
christan ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 12:37) Posted:
they r also human. not prophet |
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they r also human. not prophet
Analyst are roti plata people...............
Happy they flip it up, not happy they flip it down.
So judge by yr own. Cheers
hogenterprise ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 11:09) Posted:
if go above 26 , he will upgrade. if go below 26 he will downgrade. really no brainer
dealer0168 ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 11:12) Posted:
Abit quite expected fr the analyst after checking out more (seems like not much meat):
Li Heng: Cautiously more upbeat for 2H09
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By Carey Wong Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:33:19 SGT
Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) saw its 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But going forward, the outlook is slightly more upbeat with management spotting a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices in line with the improving macro economic picture. However, LHCF still intends to proceed cautiously with its planned expansion; the first to be completed will be its PA chip plant as this will allow LHCF to be relatively self-sufficient and afford it more flexibility in managing its inventory. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimates by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
2Q09 results suggest fragility still. Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) reported its 2Q09 results, where 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But on a sequential basis, we note that revenue was just down 4.1%, and was also 0.4% above our estimate; net profit was also up 272.8%, just 2.6% shy of our forecast. While there were some signs of stability, the situation remains quite fragile as we had highlighted in our earlier report. LHCF still has to absorb most of the higher raw material costs to help its customers, hence overall ASPs only rose 0.2% QoQ. For the half year, revenue fell 53.1% to RMB925.8m and net profit slid 91.5% to RMB48.2m, meeting 45.3% and 23.7% of our FY09 revenue and earnings estimates, respectively.
Cautiously improving outlook. As the macro economic picture continues to improve in recent months, management said it noticed a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices. While this may signal that the worst is probably over, the persistent margin pressure may be the biggest challenge facing not only LHCF but also other industry players. Nevertheless, it believes the gradual ASP increase will help gross margin recover to around 15% in 2H09.
PA chip plant almost done. While it is progressing cautiously with its planned expansion, its PA (polyamide) chip plant is almost completed. LHCF expects to start full trial production of the PA plant soon and begin full production by Sep. LHCF has also started the preliminary installation work for its additional yarn capacity but expects it to come on-stream in 1H10. Last but not least, we understand that the planned major overhaul of its old Li Yuan Phase 1 and 2 will be pushed back to 2Q10 as opposed to 2H09; this will also be done over a period of 4-5 years. As such, it expects to spend no more than RMB200m in capex in 2H09.
Maintain HOLD. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimate by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
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if go above 26 , he will upgrade.
if go below 26 he will downgrade.
really no brainer
dealer0168 ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 11:12) Posted:
Abit quite expected fr the analyst after checking out more (seems like not much meat):
Li Heng: Cautiously more upbeat for 2H09
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By Carey Wong Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:33:19 SGT
Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) saw its 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But going forward, the outlook is slightly more upbeat with management spotting a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices in line with the improving macro economic picture. However, LHCF still intends to proceed cautiously with its planned expansion; the first to be completed will be its PA chip plant as this will allow LHCF to be relatively self-sufficient and afford it more flexibility in managing its inventory. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimates by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
2Q09 results suggest fragility still. Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) reported its 2Q09 results, where 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But on a sequential basis, we note that revenue was just down 4.1%, and was also 0.4% above our estimate; net profit was also up 272.8%, just 2.6% shy of our forecast. While there were some signs of stability, the situation remains quite fragile as we had highlighted in our earlier report. LHCF still has to absorb most of the higher raw material costs to help its customers, hence overall ASPs only rose 0.2% QoQ. For the half year, revenue fell 53.1% to RMB925.8m and net profit slid 91.5% to RMB48.2m, meeting 45.3% and 23.7% of our FY09 revenue and earnings estimates, respectively.
Cautiously improving outlook. As the macro economic picture continues to improve in recent months, management said it noticed a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices. While this may signal that the worst is probably over, the persistent margin pressure may be the biggest challenge facing not only LHCF but also other industry players. Nevertheless, it believes the gradual ASP increase will help gross margin recover to around 15% in 2H09.
PA chip plant almost done. While it is progressing cautiously with its planned expansion, its PA (polyamide) chip plant is almost completed. LHCF expects to start full trial production of the PA plant soon and begin full production by Sep. LHCF has also started the preliminary installation work for its additional yarn capacity but expects it to come on-stream in 1H10. Last but not least, we understand that the planned major overhaul of its old Li Yuan Phase 1 and 2 will be pushed back to 2Q10 as opposed to 2H09; this will also be done over a period of 4-5 years. As such, it expects to spend no more than RMB200m in capex in 2H09.
Maintain HOLD. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimate by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
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I am back to this one again, looking good...
Alright, Thanks.. will be observing this for now.. :)
hogenterprise ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 16:56) Posted:
depends on mkt sentiment
learntoplay ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 16:48) Posted:
Hi all, I'm new here.. some guidance will be great!
Will Li Heng rise further? |
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depends on mkt sentiment
learntoplay ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 16:48) Posted:
Hi all, I'm new here.. some guidance will be great!
Will Li Heng rise further? |
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Hi all, I'm new here.. some guidance will be great!
Will Li Heng rise further?
Abit quite expected fr the analyst after checking out more (seems like not much meat):
Li Heng: Cautiously more upbeat for 2H09
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By Carey Wong Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:33:19 SGT
Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) saw its 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But going forward, the outlook is slightly more upbeat with management spotting a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices in line with the improving macro economic picture. However, LHCF still intends to proceed cautiously with its planned expansion; the first to be completed will be its PA chip plant as this will allow LHCF to be relatively self-sufficient and afford it more flexibility in managing its inventory. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimates by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
2Q09 results suggest fragility still. Li Heng Chemical Fibre (LHCF) reported its 2Q09 results, where 2Q09 revenue fell 61.2% YoY to RMB453.3m, while net profit tumbled 88.8% to RMB38.0m. But on a sequential basis, we note that revenue was just down 4.1%, and was also 0.4% above our estimate; net profit was also up 272.8%, just 2.6% shy of our forecast. While there were some signs of stability, the situation remains quite fragile as we had highlighted in our earlier report. LHCF still has to absorb most of the higher raw material costs to help its customers, hence overall ASPs only rose 0.2% QoQ. For the half year, revenue fell 53.1% to RMB925.8m and net profit slid 91.5% to RMB48.2m, meeting 45.3% and 23.7% of our FY09 revenue and earnings estimates, respectively.
Cautiously improving outlook. As the macro economic picture continues to improve in recent months, management said it noticed a gradual stabilization in order volume and ASPs of its nylon yarn products and also raw material prices. While this may signal that the worst is probably over, the persistent margin pressure may be the biggest challenge facing not only LHCF but also other industry players. Nevertheless, it believes the gradual ASP increase will help gross margin recover to around 15% in 2H09.
PA chip plant almost done. While it is progressing cautiously with its planned expansion, its PA (polyamide) chip plant is almost completed. LHCF expects to start full trial production of the PA plant soon and begin full production by Sep. LHCF has also started the preliminary installation work for its additional yarn capacity but expects it to come on-stream in 1H10. Last but not least, we understand that the planned major overhaul of its old Li Yuan Phase 1 and 2 will be pushed back to 2Q10 as opposed to 2H09; this will also be done over a period of 4-5 years. As such, it expects to spend no more than RMB200m in capex in 2H09.
Maintain HOLD. In view of the margin squeeze in 1H09 and the still cautious recovery in 2H09, we have cut our FY09 earnings forecast by 23.7%; our FY10 estimate by 8.8%. However, in view of the recent market re-rating, we have eased our discount rate from 22.0% to 16.8%, which bumps up our DCF-based fair value from S$0.25 to S$0.26 (translates to just 5x FY10 EPS). Maintain HOLD.
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Actually Li Heng case is quite similar to that abalone counter due to profit margin drop alot. . And its share price gradually drop back abit n hardly rally anymore.
N to have Li Heng profit margin boost up at high level, i believe may have to wait til 4th qtr or next year.
Could not see any possibility fr it to sprint now? Thus chop off first n go fr other counter first. I maybe wrong.
cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 10:25) Posted:
I thk it may sprint a surprise.later.....at 24,5c it is a steal...but since we want action fast, we can keep monitor it and jump back in ,if it run..
i told you i have twist to tiongwoon...slight gain now...
dealer0168 ( Date: 12-Aug-2009 20:00) Posted:
This one FA is good. But market demand & raw material cost to absorb results in much lower profit margin.
Market still not as rosy as everyone thinks. Especially fr manufacturing line.
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I thk it may sprint a surprise.later.....at 24,5c it is a steal...but since we want action fast, we can keep monitor it and jump back in ,if it run..
i told you i have twist to tiongwoon...slight gain now...
dealer0168 ( Date: 12-Aug-2009 20:00) Posted:
This one FA is good. But market demand & raw material cost to absorb results in much lower profit margin.
Market still not as rosy as everyone thinks. Especially fr manufacturing line.
waterfalls ( Date: 12-Aug-2009 19:44) Posted:
penny stocks are risky to play cos u buy really a lot. penny stocks
are cheap becos sales turnover and profits are small. they are
financially not as strong as larger companies with higher share prices.
so beware when u play penny stocks. for shares that are just worth a
few cents like centillion it is for the gambler and the uneducated really.
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There seems to be a sliver lining in its report...
The drastic price drop of raw material, nylon chips, along with prices of global commodities since September
2008 continued into 1H09 and this severely impacted on the Group’s gross profit margins. While the Group
procures its nylon chips approximately 2 months in advance of its production schedule, the Group prices its
nylon yarn products based on current nylon chip prices. Gross profit margins had been adversely eroded due to
time lag of the pricing mechanism since September 2008. Gross profit margins for 1H09 dropped from 34.5% in
1H08 to 11.7% in 1H09.
Which means we should see good profit margin going into next Q. And Li Heng gaining market share plus demand coming back.... I see the coming Q a very good one for Li Heng
they want to fully utilized their production facilities, that's why selling a cheap price resulting in low margin
why some brudders jump bandwagon?margins can easily improve if u look at the numbers carefully.
Let's hope that it rebounds ... everyone would be happy!!