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was just reflecting ... on how many people's lives he must have touched ... not only those who listened to his songs ..but also who made a living of his songs ... the workers in the music industry ... the supporting the industries ... the media workers ... the banks....the law firms ... the stall holders at the pavement selling his videos in a remote village ...... how many jobs he must have created .. how many families would have their meals becos of his songs ... has any one monetized the value he would have created over the years ?
... a single man ... touching so many lives ... truly the King !
50 is very young by today's standard ....sad that he had to endure so much strain in his life in an otherwise a blessed life ... but then ...demise of an icon and a legend ...
Anyway, life is precious, no racial n religion barriers. We feel much sad on d decease of d super star, M Jackson. But d below victim, does she deserve to live n see d world a bit longer?? God bless loh!!
Subject: Snatch Theft In Tmn Perling, Johor , near AK's sister place.
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我們的國家正發生這樣的事情！
小心謹慎已無用武之地，只剩自求多福了！
但福從來不會從風那裏走來（啊，我想起一首歌：從風裏走來就不能停下腳步。。。），它是與我們的每一善念善行共存的啊，親得很嘞！
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This can happen anywhere, pls alert your loved ones...
Be careful..
Holding tight also useless. Need to wear helmet when walking on the road. Problem.
Dear All,
This is what happened on Friday afternoon, when this girl was crossing the road to work as a part time salesgirl after school.
While crossing the road a motorbike came from behind and the pillion use a helmet and hit on the head while the motorbike was moving.
The girl died on the spot. She just only 18 years old.
Always be alert and for the ladies ....... your handbag!!! Take care!!!
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PekGong... [ why quote christianity? ]
This comes rather readily to mind, because Christians usually go out of the way to convert others,
while totally blind to their own folly and sins...
Everyone has to face death someday. Then, you may argue why people still want to invest and grow our wealth.
Remember our national project "Fabric of the Society"... everyone contributes a piece of their fabric and woven together..
The world is such a big place that it has so many complexities not one single human mind can comprehend all things... unless you have gained enlightenment and give up everything worldly...chim right..so don't bother..
why quote christianity?
iPunter ( Date: 27-Jun-2009 06:14) Posted:
People will never change in spite of what 'belief-style' they choose to adopt in their lives... A leopard will never change it's spots. For example, the person can choose Christianity as her prefered belief but her character will remain the same forever (unless she becomes a shaved nun). She will act and behave the way she has always wanted to, no matter what belief she has chosen to adopt... And will take advantage of the sutuation for her own material and financial gain too... This is very laughable, to say the least...
keepnosecrets ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:47) Posted:
This is a difficult topic and there are as many proponents as there are advisaries in classifying share trading as honest living or sinful indulgence. Actually it is the degree of indulgence and the manner you are engaging in it that will decide whether it is just a form of occupation or a kind of vice which religious people would say sin.
Personally thinking, if you buy and sell without the necessary (requisite) finance or assets (shares) to back up the activities, you are indulging in gambling, and gambling is frowned by society at large. But if you do it withing your means then I think it is reasonably accepted as fair trading activity. But some people would say it is only an investment if you buy and sell outside the contra period, paying off and receiving the proceeds of the transactions.
A point to note. Share trading started in the US, a Christian society and God fearing country. In the US, there is no such thing as contra your trades. You pay for it when you buy and you receive the proceeds when you sell. Probably because contra-ing trades become gambling. But it does not mean there is no gambling in USA. They have big casinos there, Las Vegas a city of Casinos and Nevada a minature Las Vegas, where casinos are also the main attraction in Reno. |
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Michael Jackson...
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Thriller <<<<<<
People will never change in spite of what 'belief-style' they choose to adopt in their lives...
A leopard will never change it's spots.
For example, the person can choose Christianity as her prefered belief but her character will remain the same forever (unless she becomes a shaved nun).
She will act and behave the way she has always wanted to, no matter what belief she has chosen to adopt... And will take advantage of the sutuation for her own material and financial gain too...
This is very laughable, to say the least...
keepnosecrets ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:47) Posted:
This is a difficult topic and there are as many proponents as there are advisaries in classifying share trading as honest living or sinful indulgence. Actually it is the degree of indulgence and the manner you are engaging in it that will decide whether it is just a form of occupation or a kind of vice which religious people would say sin.
Personally thinking, if you buy and sell without the necessary (requisite) finance or assets (shares) to back up the activities, you are indulging in gambling, and gambling is frowned by society at large. But if you do it withing your means then I think it is reasonably accepted as fair trading activity. But some people would say it is only an investment if you buy and sell outside the contra period, paying off and receiving the proceeds of the transactions.
A point to note. Share trading started in the US, a Christian society and God fearing country. In the US, there is no such thing as contra your trades. You pay for it when you buy and you receive the proceeds when you sell. Probably because contra-ing trades become gambling. But it does not mean there is no gambling in USA. They have big casinos there, Las Vegas a city of Casinos and Nevada a minature Las Vegas, where casinos are also the main attraction in Reno. |
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not true,,,if it is..long time already burst...SJ are monitoring now and then..they are not sleeping...
i cannot see any wrong in this
and this
nor this
Hi trader, is it true no posting of dancing images in SJ allowed.
Can SJ admin confirmed n if true, would sincerely appreciate plse advise wat is the rationale?
TuaPekGong9413 ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 10:41) Posted:
trader....u not scared wait admin give u warning ah? ----No Dancing in ShareJunction
trader88.sg ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 10:36) Posted:
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I agree with u, "Do good to your fellow beings".
I m not to sure is there such thing as "life after death" 9re-incarnation) n our children taking the rap for any sins we committed, but just in case there is such thing, thus why I always try to accumulate good karma for myself n for my next generation, so I always remember the mantra "Speak no evil, say no evil n do no evil" n also remember Confucious teachings "Do not do onto others wat u dun want others to do onto u", thus in my daily life n even in trading n in my posting, I always remind myself to refrain from making emotional postings tat incites greed, fear, making wild calls, posting rumours, making emotional postings just for insiduous personal gain but causing misery to others by tat evil act (poor thy neighbour).
keepnosecrets ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:19) Posted:
| Do good to your fellow beings and respect life. Earn honestly. Give a little back to society what greater things you had from it. You will be rewarded with hapiness and longevity. |
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I'm just saddenned that the gifted one has passed on. Smooth criminal remains my personal favorite together with some of his earlier hits.Haiz... life is so unpredictable. My thots n prayers are with MJ and his loved ones.
Look wat you've done
,you've stirred the hornets nest.
cathylmg ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:26) Posted:
| I trading of shares for a living an honest living? Some say its sinful some say its investments and some say its just like any other job. What say you? |
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"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Sin is basically disobedience towards God in any forms. As long as a person does not follow and do the right things that God has warned man about, but instead do the wrong things God has warned man about, that is sinning against God. The moral standard for determining what is right or wrong does not depend on man, but is according to how God view what is right or wrong. How do we know what is right or wrong based on God's standards? Everything about what is right or wrong is said in this book called the bible (aka God's Word). I'm a christian, so this is based on my christian understanding of God.
As to investing versus trading:- God wants man to engage in honest hard work for his living. Investing by itself is nothing wrong. One is just investing his hard-earned money into a company that he hopes to have a share in their business ownership. As an investor, he is supporting the company financially. His invested capital grows together with the business. The only thing is that he is not working directly in any forms for the invested business. However, it is totally legal to invest his capital in a company that is public listed since companies require funding from investors to grow their business. So, it is absolutely legal to support a business with fundings from investors. Dividends payout and capital appreciation from shares are just ways in which a company rewards its shareholders. So, this is perfectly legal. Companies want investors to fund their businesses. They reward investors with a portion of their earnings in forms of dividends or share appreciation.
The grey area comes when investors get obssessed with chasing after quick gains through trading of shares. The view of share ownership in a business is no longer relevant and buying and selling of shares is obsessed with short term gains through speculation (concerned with price changes). This has similar effect to gambling. Buy 4D or Toto with small money and hopefully can win big big in a short time. Of course, one can argue that contra or trading is also legalised and there is nothing wrong with that.
It is not my hope to start an argument here. Anyway, I understand that man's moral standards is afterall different from God's moral standards. So, we can always argue our way through to say something is right though it maybe wrong from God's moral standards. To end off, even if an investor views investing as ownership in a business, if he is too obssessed with it and idolises the idea of investing, he is nothing better than the person who speculates as both have made idols in their lives (one idolising investing concepts and ideas and the other idolising his money making abilities). They are both just full of themselves.
<Life has true meaning than just making money.> <Please do not shoot back at my comments even if one does not agree with it. As I have said, it is not my hope to start an agrument. Thanks loads.> <Another challenging moral question to consider:- Is it right to have pre-marital sex no matter how good the reasons are?> <Man's moral standards or God's moral standards?>
I not only want to tell you that sti 2600 to 2800 and dow 9800...are all prediction..and may not come about..
But, i also want to let everyone here know that we will all do a "Michael Jackson" ..that for sure..that will come about.."death is certain...life and stock is uncertain."
actually..."for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."..it is very hard to justify virtually everything and event, whether it is sinful or not?...i have ever ask that question myself before, and someone come and tell me...so long you did not cheat and you did not steal...it is OK...fine.
U tell me, what so sinful...you want to buy, and i want to sell...WILLINGLY...
i did not call you to buy or cheat you into buying...you are grown up adult....u thk the px will go up , so u buy...i thk otherwise, so i sell..
so it is base on willing buyer and seller basic...is there any sin???there are not cheating involved..everyone DYODD
i know next u going to say...well ,you did not put in real effort to earn your buck by speculating in stock market.....like some other religion who say that earning interest paid by bank is also wrong..and there are not end to this type of debate..
so long we did not steal or cheat...it is more than OK..
ask yourself honestly, if there are still doubt, then just forget abt stock, do something else which you are comfortable with...I must respect your virtue...this way you are no guilty concious..
maybe you are brought up in this manner, religious wise..hope i did no offence here, if it is , then my apology...
may u be well and happy....hope everyone huat ahhhhhhhhhhh
cathylmg ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:26) Posted:
| I trading of shares for a living an honest living? Some say its sinful some say its investments and some say its just like any other job. What say you? |
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My idol is gone,so sad,RIP Michael Jackson
Shares trading can be compared to trader buying and selling of daily necessity like rice and sugar. Aiyo, where got sinful.
Moreover, we traders provide liquidity to the market and commissions/stamp duty/clearing fees to relevant parties, hence creating jobs for others too.
Sinful?
How can trading shares be sinful at all?
It's not as if you are acting and dancing like a whore slut in a worldly music video...
Trading is skilful buying and selling... how can that be sinful at all? ... 
This is a difficult topic and there are as many proponents as there are advisaries in classifying share trading as honest living or sinful indulgence. Actually it is the degree of indulgence and the manner you are engaging in it that will decide whether it is just a form of occupation or a kind of vice which religious people would say sin.
Personally thinking, if you buy and sell without the necessary (requisite) finance or assets (shares) to back up the activities, you are indulging in gambling, and gambling is frowned by society at large. But if you do it withing your means then I think it is reasonably accepted as fair trading activity. But some people would say it is only an investment if you buy and sell outside the contra period, paying off and receiving the proceeds of the transactions.
A point to note. Share trading started in the US, a Christian society and God fearing country. In the US, there is no such thing as contra your trades. You pay for it when you buy and you receive the proceeds when you sell. Probably because contra-ing trades become gambling. But it does not mean there is no gambling in USA. They have big casinos there, Las Vegas a city of Casinos and Nevada a minature Las Vegas, where casinos are also the main attraction in Reno.
wow..u r comparing
day trading to
prostitution siah!! that IS NOT fair ! :P
cathylmg ( Date: 26-Jun-2009 11:26) Posted:
| I trading of shares for a living an honest living? Some say its sinful some say its investments and some say its just like any other job. What say you? |
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