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I think tat priovrb aptly applies to u since u are emotional yet obstinately refuses to acknowledge it.
If tomoro CHHX were to shootup, r u instead going to again emotionally going to scream euphorically, "flying...flying...flying...".
If screaming hysterically "tumbling... tumbling...tumbling..." when a stock dipped merely 0.005 cts is not emotional, than I think u make yourself a laughing stock to fellow forumers & u should publish a trading physcology book contrary to wat the term "emotional" is widely recognised in the trading community.
I simply can't bame u since u dun even know wat is emotional in the context pf trading, think either u r ignorant, never read any books on trading physcology or think u are smart aleck enuf, no need to read up trading physcology.
anfield_76 ( Date: 01-Jun-2009 23:15) Posted:
just to re-iterate, my "outcry" (if that's what richtan wants to put it) was certainly not emotional, neither does it arise from greed/fear/ulterior motives. i stand by what i think and i have not apologised for my personal opinion. my statement was purely an appreciation of someone who is kind enough to provide an alternate point of view that different from from mine.
over and out!
"A closed mind is like a closed book - just a block of wood" - Chinese Proverb
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 17:40) Posted:
Cheong Wee & Weishen88 & fellow forumers,
I sincerely appreciate your reply & graciously accept his/her apologies & do hope tat such emotional outcry is not repeated.
I do need to explain why I m so vocal & make a big huha about this issue.
We need to squash and censor such emotional, baseless, unproductive, non-value-added posting lest in time to come, this forum will be degraded into a fish market forum where no serious trader will want to step into & it will also cause harm to newbies who step into this forum in the hope of learning from fellow forumers who are genuine & really willing to share & not to incite fear or greed based on their emotions & ulterior motives.
In fact, admin should warn & after the 3rd warning, if such negative forumers should persist in baselessly inciting emotions, greed & fear, should bar & block their IP address to protect the integrity & wholesomeness of this forum.
Our objectives is to keep this forum wholesome & beneficial to fellow forumers so tat we all learn & grow & prospere together. |
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just to re-iterate, my "outcry" (if that's what richtan wants to put it) was certainly not emotional, neither does it arise from greed/fear/ulterior motives. i stand by what i think and i have not apologised for my personal opinion. my statement was purely an appreciation of someone who is kind enough to provide an alternate point of view that different from from mine.
over and out!
"A closed mind is like a closed book - just a block of wood" - Chinese Proverb
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 17:40) Posted:
Cheong Wee & Weishen88 & fellow forumers,
I sincerely appreciate your reply & graciously accept his/her apologies & do hope tat such emotional outcry is not repeated.
I do need to explain why I m so vocal & make a big huha about this issue.
We need to squash and censor such emotional, baseless, unproductive, non-value-added posting lest in time to come, this forum will be degraded into a fish market forum where no serious trader will want to step into & it will also cause harm to newbies who step into this forum in the hope of learning from fellow forumers who are genuine & really willing to share & not to incite fear or greed based on their emotions & ulterior motives.
In fact, admin should warn & after the 3rd warning, if such negative forumers should persist in baselessly inciting emotions, greed & fear, should bar & block their IP address to protect the integrity & wholesomeness of this forum.
Our objectives is to keep this forum wholesome & beneficial to fellow forumers so tat we all learn & grow & prospere together.
cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:
never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.
not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?
the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.
quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..
i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..
but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..
at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..
win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.
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From DBSV:
S-shares should rise after China’s PMI for May came in at 53.1
versus 53.5 in April, marking this the 3
that the PMI stayed above 50. Although the reading showed a
slight dip versus April, the figure was still better-than-expected
as some economists had earlier predicted the PMI dipping close
to 50 or even below. S-chips top the list of DBS Research’s Buy
recommendations with more than 10% upside to target price.
These are China Sports (TP: $0.29), Raffles Education (TP:
$0.78), Pacific Andes (TP: $0.57), China Hongxing (TP: $0.26)
and Epure (TP: $0.64).
rd consecutive month
I m sorry, I m not a licensed broker or analyst, so I dun make buy or sell recommnedation.
I only share my chart analysis. I may be right or wrong.
Read the chart & dyodd. To buy or not to buy, u have to make your own decision.
alanghc2020 ( Date: 31-May-2009 23:58) Posted:
now is 0.18, still can buy >?
richtan ( Date: 31-May-2009 16:38) Posted:
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now is 0.18, still can buy >?
richtan ( Date: 31-May-2009 16:38) Posted:
Ooops, but dyodd.
richtan ( Date: 31-May-2009 16:37) Posted:
My chart analysis for CHHX but dyodd. |
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Ooops, but dyodd.
richtan ( Date: 31-May-2009 16:37) Posted:
My chart analysis for CHHX but dyodd. |
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My chart analysis for CHHX but dyodd.
Ooops, sorry again, weishen81 not weishen88, my apology.
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 17:40) Posted:
Cheong Wee & Weishen88 & fellow forumers,
I sincerely appreciate your reply & graciously accept his/her apologies & do hope tat such emotional outcry is not repeated.
I do need to explain why I m so vocal & make a big huha about this issue.
We need to squash and censor such emotional, baseless, unproductive, non-value-added posting lest in time to come, this forum will be degraded into a fish market forum where no serious trader will want to step into & it will also cause harm to newbies who step into this forum in the hope of learning from fellow forumers who are genuine & really willing to share & not to incite fear or greed based on their emotions & ulterior motives.
In fact, admin should warn & after the 3rd warning, if such negative forumers should persist in baselessly inciting emotions, greed & fear, should bar & block their IP address to protect the integrity & wholesomeness of this forum.
Our objectives is to keep this forum wholesome & beneficial to fellow forumers so tat we all learn & grow & prospere together.
cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:
never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.
not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?
the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.
quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..
i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..
but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..
at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..
win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.
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Cheong Wee & Weishen88 & fellow forumers,
I sincerely appreciate your reply & graciously accept his/her apologies & do hope tat such emotional outcry is not repeated.
I do need to explain why I m so vocal & make a big huha about this issue.
We need to squash and censor such emotional, baseless, unproductive, non-value-added posting lest in time to come, this forum will be degraded into a fish market forum where no serious trader will want to step into & it will also cause harm to newbies who step into this forum in the hope of learning from fellow forumers who are genuine & really willing to share & not to incite fear or greed based on their emotions & ulterior motives.
In fact, admin should warn & after the 3rd warning, if such negative forumers should persist in baselessly inciting emotions, greed & fear, should bar & block their IP address to protect the integrity & wholesomeness of this forum.
Our objectives is to keep this forum wholesome & beneficial to fellow forumers so tat we all learn & grow & prospere together.
cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:
never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.
not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?
the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.
quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..
i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..
but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..
at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..
win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.
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Hi to warring parties,
Nothing biased against either side. I also do not want to mention any name too. I personally feel that anyone who post in only has 2 objectives.
1) Sincerely wanting to help fellow members shorten the learning curve and "tuition fees". I personally had lost enough to pay for one car at a go last year. I am most willingly to learn from anyone even the newbies the art of trading and earning some pocket money now and then.
2) Cooking up a dish to spur his/her objectives to earn more $$$. All it takes is for a few ppl or some smaller BB to ball roll and ppl will be throwing themselves in and getting caught.
If we need to "bleed", then "bleeded" and learnt from the experience and ask ourselves why others are laughing to the bank and not me.
Teach and guide me more.. Cheers..
weishen81 ( Date: 30-May-2009 15:10) Posted:
Hi fellow forumers, i have to say i am relatively new in this forum and extremely new in the world of trading. However, i understand that the basic purpose of this forum is to post views and ideas, to share and learn in the trading journey. Sincerely i thank richtan and all other forumers for all the
value-added postings and updates in some of the topics. I am very keen to learn things step by step & I
believe all these knowledge takes time and effort to pickup, and to be
a consistent winning trader, knowledge and psychology plays a mega part.
Most importantly, lets not forget that this is a place to learn and share. Whether a stock price is going up or down, each trader will have different perspectives in their analysis. No right or wrong though, but best will be if we can substantiate our views with proper backup findings or technical data? Else everyone becomes MFT liao.. So regardless of the the stock prices going north or south later, it will be a learning process for everyone, as no strategies are 101% sure-win right?
Hope everyone stays cool and blue, beginners or experts, everyone is still on a learning journey! Cheers!
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Hi fellow forumers, i have to say i am relatively new in this forum and extremely new in the world of trading. However, i understand that the basic purpose of this forum is to post views and ideas, to share and learn in the trading journey. Sincerely i thank richtan and all other forumers for all the
value-added postings and updates in some of the topics. I am very keen to learn things step by step & I
believe all these knowledge takes time and effort to pickup, and to be
a consistent winning trader, knowledge and psychology plays a mega part.
Most importantly, lets not forget that this is a place to learn and share. Whether a stock price is going up or down, each trader will have different perspectives in their analysis. No right or wrong though, but best will be if we can substantiate our views with proper backup findings or technical data? Else everyone becomes MFT liao.. So regardless of the the stock prices going north or south later, it will be a learning process for everyone, as no strategies are 101% sure-win right?
Hope everyone stays cool and blue, beginners or experts, everyone is still on a learning journey! Cheers!
hahaha....
thanks cheongwee for the very unbiased view, modern family needs more people with minds like you - the ability to view squabbles in family as learning and understanding one another - instead of throwing in the towel or worst settle with one's fist. if i have children, will surely introduce to your son/daughter if they share the same view as you! ok... before i get too emotional again... hahaha... 
since richtan is so gracious to "appreciate & hereby express his sincere gratitude to me for correcting his Chinese", i should reciprocate his gracious and acknowledge that i do "appreciate & hereby express my sincere gratitude" to him for his views as i am sure that there are many who benefitted from richtan and there are some who did not, just like some who has benefitted from this green horn's view and some who has not.
am sure an experienced teacher like richtan has more to teach everyone, similarly he has more to learn from everyone - greenhorn or not greenhorn.
cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:
never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.
not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?
the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.
quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..
i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..
but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..
at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..
win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.
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never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.
not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?
the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.
quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..
i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..
but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..
at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..
win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.
Ooops, sorry, Cheong Wee, for typing wronly your name.
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 01:14) Posted:
Hi Chong Wee, Alligator, Weishen81 & fellow forumers,
I hereby sincerely seek all of u to be the unbiase judges of who is being emotional & put this case to rest.
If I m truly being emotional, I will henceforth cease posting & sharing in this forum & rather just spend tat time wholeheartedly in my trading, rather than to be sadden by unappreciative greenhorns hurling insults for my good intentions..
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 01:01) Posted:
Plse for heavens sake, get your facts right & know wat getting emotional is about, u truly are the greenest og the greenhorn.
As per my advice to u, plse read more trading books on wat is really emotional & control your emotion if u want to succeed in trading.
To scream hysterically "tumbling...tumbling... tumbling..." when it drops merely 0.005 cts is emotional.
Are u also going to scream euphorically "flying... flying... flying..." when it rises merely 0,005 cts.
Really can't blame u since u aredi admit u r a greenhorn, just to let u know, sharing & posting facts like "time & sales" to let fellow forumers aware of such insidous working of syndicates so tat fellow forumers are not being deceited are not emotional.
Let fellow forumers be the judge whether u are being emotional with your factlesshysterical screaming or my facts sharing being emotional.
I m sure I have certain standing & respect in this forum, just to name a few, hope fellow forumers like Chong Wee, Alligator, weishen81 & others who had read all my past postings & genuine sincere sharing of my knowledge & posting of my chart analysis, be the judge.
I shall rest my case & let other fellow forumers be the judge & this will be my last reply to such fruitless & waste of energy tit for tat, though I m reluctant to reply, I must reply for the last time to set records straight.& henceforth, I will refrain from replying to your endless no value-added illogical arguments for the sake of rebuting.
I m truly sadden tat u truly are "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin".
By the way, I m not like u, non appreciative. I do appreciate & hereby express my sincere gratitude to u for correcting my Chinese as I m English ed, so pardon my broken Chinese. |
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dun tell u.... dun tell u.... hehe...
Hi Chong Wee, Alligator, Weishen81 & fellow forumers,
I hereby sincerely seek all of u to be the unbiase judges of who is being emotional & put this case to rest.
If I m truly being emotional, I will henceforth cease posting & sharing in this forum & rather just spend tat time wholeheartedly in my trading, rather than to be sadden by unappreciative greenhorns hurling insults for my good intentions..
richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 01:01) Posted:
Plse for heavens sake, get your facts right & know wat getting emotional is about, u truly are the greenest og the greenhorn.
As per my advice to u, plse read more trading books on wat is really emotional & control your emotion if u want to succeed in trading.
To scream hysterically "tumbling...tumbling... tumbling..." when it drops merely 0.005 cts is emotional.
Are u also going to scream euphorically "flying... flying... flying..." when it rises merely 0,005 cts.
Really can't blame u since u aredi admit u r a greenhorn, just to let u know, sharing & posting facts like "time & sales" to let fellow forumers aware of such insidous working of syndicates so tat fellow forumers are not being deceited are not emotional.
Let fellow forumers be the judge whether u are being emotional with your factlesshysterical screaming or my facts sharing being emotional.
I m sure I have certain standing & respect in this forum, just to name a few, hope fellow forumers like Chong Wee, Alligator, weishen81 & others who had read all my past postings & genuine sincere sharing of my knowledge & posting of my chart analysis, be the judge.
I shall rest my case & let other fellow forumers be the judge & this will be my last reply to such fruitless & waste of energy tit for tat, though I m reluctant to reply, I must reply for the last time to set records straight.& henceforth, I will refrain from replying to your endless no value-added illogical arguments for the sake of rebuting.
I m truly sadden tat u truly are "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin".
By the way, I m not like u, non appreciative. I do appreciate & hereby express my sincere gratitude to u for correcting my Chinese as I m English ed, so pardon my broken Chinese.
anfield_76 ( Date: 30-May-2009 00:28) Posted:
:) no need to say "this forumer is really a greenhorn though u may never admit it to save your face. A thief never admit he is a thief." hahaha... already admitted i am a green horn long ago la. don't think it is going to take one "years to accumulate & thousands & hours" to figure this out lor.
hahaha... anyway, am not invested in this yet so doesn't really matter to me whether it goes up or goes down, so there's nothing emotional about it. and similarly, a lesson to everyone (to quote a veteran) is not to get too emotional when there is "another 1807 lots mopped up from the seller at 19 cts, with all these hugh (sic) accumulations, very soon will burst upward leow" just in case someone rant "Pu chi how ren sin, ko yau li tong pin" (should be "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin"), let's learn from each other. |
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Plse for heavens sake, get your facts right & know wat getting emotional is about, u truly are the greenest og the greenhorn.
As per my advice to u, plse read more trading books on wat is really emotional & control your emotion if u want to succeed in trading.
To scream hysterically "tumbling...tumbling... tumbling..." when it drops merely 0.005 cts is emotional.
Are u also going to scream euphorically "flying... flying... flying..." when it rises merely 0,005 cts.
Really can't blame u since u aredi admit u r a greenhorn, just to let u know, sharing & posting facts like "time & sales" to let fellow forumers aware of such insidous working of syndicates so tat fellow forumers are not being deceited are not emotional.
Let fellow forumers be the judge whether u are being emotional with your factlesshysterical screaming or my facts sharing being emotional.
I m sure I have certain standing & respect in this forum, just to name a few, hope fellow forumers like Chong Wee, Alligator, weishen81 & others who had read all my past postings & genuine sincere sharing of my knowledge & posting of my chart analysis, be the judge.
I shall rest my case & let other fellow forumers be the judge & this will be my last reply to such fruitless & waste of energy tit for tat, though I m reluctant to reply, I must reply for the last time to set records straight.& henceforth, I will refrain from replying to your endless no value-added illogical arguments for the sake of rebuting.
I m truly sadden tat u truly are "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin".
By the way, I m not like u, non appreciative. I do appreciate & hereby express my sincere gratitude to u for correcting my Chinese as I m English ed, so pardon my broken Chinese.
anfield_76 ( Date: 30-May-2009 00:28) Posted:
:) no need to say "this forumer is really a greenhorn though u may never admit it to save your face. A thief never admit he is a thief." hahaha... already admitted i am a green horn long ago la. don't think it is going to take one "years to accumulate & thousands & hours" to figure this out lor.
hahaha... anyway, am not invested in this yet so doesn't really matter to me whether it goes up or goes down, so there's nothing emotional about it. and similarly, a lesson to everyone (to quote a veteran) is not to get too emotional when there is "another 1807 lots mopped up from the seller at 19 cts, with all these hugh (sic) accumulations, very soon will burst upward leow" just in case someone rant "Pu chi how ren sin, ko yau li tong pin" (should be "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin"), let's learn from each other.
anfield_76 ( Date: 29-May-2009 06:56) Posted:
hahaha... am no expert in this area (no one really is in this forum), i must totally agree with you!
at 21.27, the post was so optimistic. at 22.33, the post became one of "covering one's ass". 
let me be an expert just this once follow your rule and boldly declare:
"today's (29th may) market will be optimistic, share prices will rise UNLESS there is some bad news released after the trading starts"
logically, i am correct either way CONGRATULATIONS TO ME IN ADVANCE! *clap* *clap* *clap* |
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:) no need to say "this forumer is really a greenhorn though u may never admit it to save your face. A thief never admit he is a thief." hahaha... already admitted i am a green horn long ago la.
don't think it is going to take one "years to accumulate & thousands & hours" to figure this out lor.
hahaha... anyway, am not invested in this yet so doesn't really matter to me whether it goes up or goes down, so there's nothing emotional about it. and similarly, a lesson to everyone (to quote a veteran) is not to get too emotional when there is "another 1807 lots mopped up from the seller at 19 cts, with all these hugh (sic) accumulations, very soon will burst upward leow"
just in case someone rant "Pu chi how ren sin, ko yau li tong pin" (should be "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin"), let's learn from each other.
anfield_76 ( Date: 29-May-2009 06:56) Posted:
hahaha... am no expert in this area (no one really is in this forum), i must totally agree with you!
at 21.27, the post was so optimistic. at 22.33, the post became one of "covering one's ass". 
let me be an expert just this once follow your rule and boldly declare:
"today's (29th may) market will be optimistic, share prices will rise UNLESS there is some bad news released after the trading starts"
logically, i am correct either way CONGRATULATIONS TO ME IN ADVANCE! *clap* *clap* *clap*
richtan ( Date: 28-May-2009 22:33) Posted:
After all being said about syndicates accumulation, nothing is cast in stones as "Man proposes, GOD disposes", syndicates are also exposed to events beyond their control, if US mkts drop heavily tonite, (touch wood), they too might be played out and could possibly be overwhelmed by the mass selling, unless if they have cornered enuf lots or still have enuf firepower to mop up those selling or they may even be prepared to cut massive losses if they sense tat the tide is too strong for them to withstand, conserve their bullets to fight another day |
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To a TA trader, it doesn't really matter whether it is another secret accumulation or ultimately failed accumulation or wrong assesment, as at the end-of-the-day, we still trade & act based on charts & "cover our asses" by setting cut-losses point and not being emotional.
A well-horned trader can decipher from your such emotional posting, screaming hysterically "tumbling...tumbling...tumbling.." when it merely drop just 0.005 cts & rebut a kind reply as "cover your ass", tat this forumer is really a greenhorn though u may never admit it to save your face. A thief never admit he is a thief.
Likewise, are u going to scream euphorically, "flying... flying..flying.." when it merely rises 0.005 cts..
A true trader knows he must "cover their asses" , not being egoistic, knows when to cut-losses", not stubbornly stick to thier guns & end up asshole haemorraghing when mkts turn against them, as no TA is 100% guaranteed
Frankly, I would have chosen to ignore your emotional noises as it won't hurt my pockets a single cents but I was kind enuf to chose to reply hoping tat u learn not to be emotional in trading but unfortunately u chose to be unappreciative as in the famous Chinese saying "Pu chi how ren sin, ko yau li tong pin"
Though u may be unappreciative, my parting shot to u:
To be successful in trading, learn to "cover your ass" by setting "cut-loss" point & read up more trading books. I m not going to spoonfeed u, do a search for one of my earlier posting whereby I recommended a few good trading books or attend some trading courses. There is no easy way out, u have to learn the ropes of the trade & not getting emotional. It will stand u in good stead as u master the art of trading using TA & not emotion.
anfield_76 ( Date: 29-May-2009 17:44) Posted:
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another day of secret accumulation