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Rosesyrup
    01-Aug-2013 01:00  
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1) It is Mister

2) Every shares that are listed  can be bought

3) The emphasize here is which is a better deal? And the title " Why OCBC is a better choice"   said it all.  For supporting claims, read the entire thing.

Cheers.

ysh2006      ( Date: 31-Jul-2013 22:58) Posted:



Ms Rosesyrup

Too long the report, just want to know can buy ?...DBS save money not to buy Danamon Bank the  US grading authority can give better grade to DBS loh...

 
 
ysh2006
    31-Jul-2013 22:58  
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Ms Rosesyrup

Too long the report, just want to know can buy ?...DBS save money not to buy Danamon Bank the  US grading authority can give better grade to DBS loh...
 
 
Rosesyrup
    31-Jul-2013 22:20  
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Why OCBC is a better choice.

Not long ago, analysts claimed that DBS would be a better choice of investment than OCBC and UOB. Reasons given were:

A1) Singapore Government's cooling measure housing market would hurt  the local banks. Since DBS is diversified  across Asia, it would be less exposed to the impact of the cooling measure than banks (OCBC & UOB) who are mostly based in Singapore.

A2) DBS investment outside Singapore, gives it better growth opportunity.

A3) High amount of housing loans hold by Singapore Banks  risk turning into large amount of Non Performing Loan when interest rate hike inevitably- claimed by  Moody.

In my opinion, the above points are not the full story and a decision based upon those might be distorted.    Allow me to  share the reason why  pure local banks  are better selections.

1) Cooling Measure VS Economic Crisis 

  The worry about more property cooling measure to come, is a needless one. After some 7 rounds of cooling measure, property price and transaction volume  are beginning to fall. Since the government policies has taken effect and reach its aim of cooling the market, it makes no sense to continue hammering the market with new measures. In fact we can expect government to start removing those measure as soon as interest rate starts moving up-  most probably after  1 year.  Removing those cooling measure is necessary to  increase the liquidity of housing market and allow those  investors cannot afford the high interest rate  to  sell their properties.  The next question that comes naturally would be: Why would government want to help those investors who can't afford high interest rate? Well, those investors pledged their properties when apply for housing loan. If they can't afford the rising interest rate their properties and can't sell   their properties, their properties  would be seized and sell in the market. When such cases happened to large amount of investors, we can quickly see the market flooded with worthless properties while banks see many loan turn bad and collateral turn worthless-  a repeat of  US 2008 subprime crisis. As a small country, the economic  resulting hardship would be unbearable. Thus government would its best to prevent such crisis and a necessary step would be to increase the liquidity of the property market once interest rate starts hiking.

In constrast, the risk of economic disruption as a result of fund exiting Asia would prove to be more worrying. This is especially true for developing countries like Vietnam, Indonesia, and India- check out news about India  struggle to  hike interest rate  in order to  fight  currency devaluation.  If not handled properly, the history of 1997 currency crisis would repeat itself and companies in the those countries would simply go bust. In all these developing Asian countries, DBS has stake in them and thus it run a high risk of suffering a huge loss should anything happened to these countries. Thanks to the smart polices by MAS, Singapore is expected to weather such economic disruption and thus" pure" Singapore banks are expected to be spared from the crisis.  Strong policies that  MAS  have imposed to protect the  economy include appreciation of SGD to its all time high and  agreeing to accept Japanese bonds as collateral.

2) The Real  Opportunity To  Growth   

Growth opportunites offered in other Asian countries are truly debatable. In the bid to protect their economy, most countries have imposed strong protectionism policies on  their fianacial industries.  These protectionsim policies limit the growth and competitiveness of foreign banks. A good example can be seen from the recent case where Temasek Holding faced  tons of hurdles when it  tried to sell shares of Indonesia's Danamon Bank to DBS. What is a growth opportunity when you can't even cash out?

On the other hand, Singapore as a financial hub for South East Asia and with its strong economic stability offer much more attractive growth opportunity for the local banks. Foregin business  preferred to set up in Singapore and foreign funds flow first into Singapore then to the rest of SEA countries.We can safely assume this will continue  to be the case for at least the next 5-10 years. Thus banks who focus more on local market are expected to grow better than bank who seek growth in other SEA countries.

3)  MAS's ACE Card

  As always Moody tends  to exaggerate  " crisis" that is unlikely to happen and  comfort you when there is  real crisis lurking (2008 subprime is a good example).  Crisis as a result of high amount of housing debt  is UNLIKELY to happen in Singapore. As mentioned above, the cooling measure can be removed to improve liquidity in the market, this provides opportunity for those who cannot afford the rising interest rate to exit the market. Secondly, government's plan on increasing the population by 2020 should also provide ample demand to balance the supply in propety market. Most importantly, MAS has an ACE card up its sleeve that will allow it to buy some time before rising the local interest rate- inevitably Singapore interest rate is highly pegged to US interest rate, which is expected to rise when Fed stops it QE by mid 2014.  Remember the " All time high SGD" we are talking about? The high SGD gives MAS more flexibility and room in choosing to devaluate SGD over increasing interest rate. This  delay the need to rise local  interest rate, and should give sufficient time for property investors to be warned of the rising rate and to liquidate their properties. Thus the crisis warned by Moody is high avoidable and should not be of major concern.

In a nutshell, with the low economic risk and high growth opportunity, Singapore financial  market is a much better investment than many SEA market. With this I concluded that banks that focus on local markets (OCBC & UOB) will fare much better than bank (DBS) that is diversified across the volatile Asia markets. As for why OCBC is preferred over UOB, it is because size does matter.

Just sharing my view here, email me rosesyrup123@yahoo.com if you have something to share with me. Thanks.

The above analysis is purely my personal opinion. I urge you to do your own assessment and calculation for any relevant decision making purposes.

Author: Rosesyrup

 

 
Octavia
    31-Jul-2013 22:13  
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Cld be good news and cld be bad news depending on how market want to play it up.
 
 
Octavia
    31-Jul-2013 22:11  
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DBS said its attempt to buy Bank Danamon Indonesia has failed.

In a statement on Wednesday, the bank said the conditional share-purchase agreement between DBS Group Holdings and Temasek Holding's wholly owned unit Fullerton Financial Holdings Pte Ltd to acquire its 67 per cent stake in PT Bank Danamon Indonesia Tbk has a long-stop date of Aug 1.

DBS said: " The agreement will lapse after Aug 1, 2013."

DBS' chief executive Piyush Gupta expressed " deepest appreciation to the regulators in Indonesia and Singapore for giving the transaction due consideration" .
 
 
krisluke
    26-Jul-2013 11:50  
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DBS's 2Q13 earnings predicted to slide 12% to $835m





Here are 3 reasons why.

According to CIMB, DBS’s 2Q13 net profit is expected (CIMB: S$835m vs. consensus S$887m) to  ease down 12% qoq as 1Q13 was extremely strong on the back of:

1) investment  banking and other capital markets-related fees being higher-than-usual  because of huge fees earned from the Thai Bev deal

2) wealth management fees  showing up partly from DBS HK pursuing a successful wealth strategy and

3)  new POSB mortgage product helping to mitigate margin pressure. 

Here's more from CIMB:


We reckon  that 2Q13 will see the toning down of some of the positives from the first two  drivers. IB fees will likely ease down sequentially as it compares against a high  base in 1Q, while 2Q debt-capital markets activity in June was muted and some  equity capital market deals were pushed back into 3Q.

Providing some ballast  for non-interest income is the presence of trade finance flows re-surfacing in 1Q.  We think that DBS has done very well in this space and we hope to see its trade  finance volumes hold up in the midst of rising competition from Chinese banks.


- See more at: http://sbr.com.sg/financial-services/news/dbss-2q13-earnings-predicted-slide-12-835m#sthash.CK4CfTDK.dpuf

 
 

 
sgnewbie
    11-Oct-2012 09:24  
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    25-Sep-2012 09:22  
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chinastar
    06-Sep-2012 06:32  
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It is time to up the interest rate.

1419242      ( Date: 03-Sep-2012 00:31) Posted:

DBS ups FD rates as its deposits dip in Q2


By Siow Li Sen

DBS Bank has jacked up its fixed deposit (FD) rates in a bid to retain its customers.

Since Aug 15, Singapore's biggest bank has raised the FD rates for tenures of three to 24 months for amounts ranging from $1,000 to $999,999.

For three to five-month deposits, the new rate is 0.10 per cent, up from 0.05 per cent. For 18 months, the new rate is 0.50 per cent, up from 0.10 per cent previously. For 24 months, it is 0.55 per cent, up from 0.125 per cent.

For one to two-month deposits, the rate remains unchanged at 0.05 per cent.

A DBS spokeswoman said the revision was in alignment with market rates.

Kenneth Ng, CIMB's head of research, said Singapore banks have been losing deposit share in the second quarter, and DBS's move was a response to deposit competition in the market.

DBS's deposits dipped to $230.6 billion in Q2 from $232.2 billion in Q1.

" The foreign banks have been very aggressive on FD rates, with time deposit rates around one per cent," he said.

CIMB Bank has a promotion, which pays 1.10 per cent for a 12-month FD for amounts of between $25,000 and $1 million.

" Some of the Singapore banks, including DBS, have said they were quite content to lose some share in time deposits as Singapore dollar liquidity is still rather abundant, but you cannot keep losing deposits for too long or else competitors will have a chance to take over your client relationship," said Mr Ng.

" We read this as reacting to the time deposit competition in the market," he added.

The other two local banks - OCBC Bank and United Overseas Bank (UOB) - have so far opted for short-term promotions.

OCBC has upped the ante for its hybrid savings account. Yesterday, it offered savers $800 cash if they left $500,000 with the bank for at least six months, which will enjoy 1.08 per cent interest for certain months and 0.6 per cent in other months. The promotion is from Aug 29 to Sept 28.

UOB's seven-month FD promotion, which ends tomorrow, pays one per cent for a minimum deposit of $20,000.

BT understands that UOB will roll out more deposit promotions in the coming months.

 
 
limkt009
    03-Sep-2012 09:08  
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Lowers price to get higher volume
 

 
Bopanha
    03-Sep-2012 07:56  
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Giving higher interest rates forgoes some profit in the next few quarters.  Sign sign, loh, lol.
 
 
1419242
    03-Sep-2012 00:31  
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DBS ups FD rates as its deposits dip in Q2


By Siow Li Sen

DBS Bank has jacked up its fixed deposit (FD) rates in a bid to retain its customers.

Since Aug 15, Singapore's biggest bank has raised the FD rates for tenures of three to 24 months for amounts ranging from $1,000 to $999,999.

For three to five-month deposits, the new rate is 0.10 per cent, up from 0.05 per cent. For 18 months, the new rate is 0.50 per cent, up from 0.10 per cent previously. For 24 months, it is 0.55 per cent, up from 0.125 per cent.

For one to two-month deposits, the rate remains unchanged at 0.05 per cent.

A DBS spokeswoman said the revision was in alignment with market rates.

Kenneth Ng, CIMB's head of research, said Singapore banks have been losing deposit share in the second quarter, and DBS's move was a response to deposit competition in the market.

DBS's deposits dipped to $230.6 billion in Q2 from $232.2 billion in Q1.

" The foreign banks have been very aggressive on FD rates, with time deposit rates around one per cent," he said.

CIMB Bank has a promotion, which pays 1.10 per cent for a 12-month FD for amounts of between $25,000 and $1 million.

" Some of the Singapore banks, including DBS, have said they were quite content to lose some share in time deposits as Singapore dollar liquidity is still rather abundant, but you cannot keep losing deposits for too long or else competitors will have a chance to take over your client relationship," said Mr Ng.

" We read this as reacting to the time deposit competition in the market," he added.

The other two local banks - OCBC Bank and United Overseas Bank (UOB) - have so far opted for short-term promotions.

OCBC has upped the ante for its hybrid savings account. Yesterday, it offered savers $800 cash if they left $500,000 with the bank for at least six months, which will enjoy 1.08 per cent interest for certain months and 0.6 per cent in other months. The promotion is from Aug 29 to Sept 28.

UOB's seven-month FD promotion, which ends tomorrow, pays one per cent for a minimum deposit of $20,000.

BT understands that UOB will roll out more deposit promotions in the coming months.
 
 
junction
    26-Aug-2012 08:47  
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Dont bother to loan out your shares.  The earnings are miniscule and if you are hoping your shares will soar, you are betting against yourself!  It only benefits the shortsellers who borrow your shares to bet against you.

Nokita      ( Date: 20-Aug-2012 21:45) Posted:

Is this regular? Anyone has experienced of  shares loaned out?

 
 
Vivivie
    25-Aug-2012 21:57  
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cdp also has this sbl scheme
 
 
Nokita
    20-Aug-2012 21:45  
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Is this regular? Anyone has experienced of  shares loaned out?
 

 
Nokita
    20-Aug-2012 09:27  
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Bopanha
    19-Aug-2012 06:42  
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Simply put, human hands are at play.  

iPunter      ( Date: 18-Aug-2012 07:44) Posted:



Stocks are like that...

  After you have sold or shorted, it may continue to rise some more... 

          But if you hold it, or buy some more, it may drop like sheet...

                  That's why stocks is not an easy game to play... lol... Smiley


sengsk      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 09:18) Posted:



Personal view, Once it touch on 20MA

Maybe ~ (11.55-11.58) might good to short.

Dun hold and cover back for some coffee will do.


 
 
1419242
    19-Aug-2012 01:54  
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see whether u are lucky or not~

or whether u have a smart guide around you or under-table tips~~~

iPunter      ( Date: 18-Aug-2012 07:44) Posted:



Stocks are like that...

  After you have sold or shorted, it may continue to rise some more... 

          But if you hold it, or buy some more, it may drop like sheet...

                  That's why stocks is not an easy game to play... lol... Smiley


sengsk      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 09:18) Posted:



Personal view, Once it touch on 20MA

Maybe ~ (11.55-11.58) might good to short.

Dun hold and cover back for some coffee will do.


 
 
iPunter
    18-Aug-2012 07:44  
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Stocks are like that...

  After you have sold or shorted, it may continue to rise some more... 

          But if you hold it, or buy some more, it may drop like sheet...

                  That's why stocks is not an easy game to play... lol... Smiley


sengsk      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 09:18) Posted:



Personal view, Once it touch on 20MA

Maybe ~ (11.55-11.58) might good to short.

Dun hold and cover back for some coffee will do.

 
 
1419242
    18-Aug-2012 03:46  
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keep it rising DBS~~!!
 
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