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hikitty
    26-Jan-2007 09:44  
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 GIL & SC would have checked whether it was right to do it, while S'pore Govt has its duty to scrren. Short sellers will be burnt if they interpret it as  negative news.   
 
 
punter2006
    25-Jan-2007 20:29  
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Not SGX, but the government have the authority to do a screening..
 
 
hikitty
    25-Jan-2007 18:57  
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Rumour entirely baseless.  SGX has got no authority to query SC or GIL  about   SC's recent  deal with Stanley since it's a biz deal.  Am sure GIL&SC will not violate the terms for the award of the IR project and  risk being financially penalised.  
 

 
lg1167
    25-Jan-2007 18:06  
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I think Genting is not a fool to play play with their S$6 billion contract by inviting Stanley Ho to take 10% stake if knowing that it woul jeopardise their contract with SG govt....thus, with a little announcement by Genting, the counter will regain its position upwards.

Good luck to those contra punters who short it.....!!
 
 
LookSeeOnly
    25-Jan-2007 18:03  
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So what to do now? Hold on and wait or cut loss?
 
 
Hulumas
    25-Jan-2007 17:17  
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Dear Wait4opp,

It is so common, the sources of the rumours usually should contain purely to their personal interest, one of the main reasons, they have most probably missed the boat!
 

 
silveryear
    25-Jan-2007 16:26  
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Moody gonna downgrade SC "B1" rating.

HK-listed Star Cruises 'B1' rating placed on review for downgrade - Moody's     
1/25/2007 3:50:00 PM 
HONG KONG (XFN-ASIA) - Star Cruises Ltd's "B1" corporate family rating has been

placed on review for a possible downgrade, Moody's Investors Service said.

The review has been prompted by SCL's announcement that it and Genting

International plc, a subsidiary of Genting Berhad, will acquire a 75 pct stake

in Macau Land Investment Corp, which will in turn develop a hotel and casino

project in Macau.

"This greenfield project, involving a total estimated cost of around 4.7 bln

hkd, will increase SCL's financial leverage, development and execution risks,

and capital requirements in the near and medium term," said lead analyst Kaven

Tsang.

The challenging operating environment for SCL's cruise ship business and its

already high financial leverage are other factors contributing towards the

rating action, Moody's added.

roby.lau@xfn.com
 
 
wait4opp
    25-Jan-2007 15:59  
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someone rumours that GT and SC get query by SGX the deal between S.Ho and them.......

Bad and will go all the way back to 50cents and 32 cents...

Be ware
 
 
Hulumas
    25-Jan-2007 15:50  
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Dear Readers,

Sorry, I missed the word 'think' on the previous posting. It should read Don't you think Genting and Star Cruises....................
 
 
Hulumas
    25-Jan-2007 15:46  
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Dear Readers,

This time round, sand is the main issue, but it is definitely a wrong negative impact. It is no big deal, sand can be solved out, just importing from Malaysia?? Don't you Genting and Star Cruises, has no big contribution to its own country of origin i.e. Malaysia. The market worry is simply groundless!!! I buy again at this price.
 

 
lg1167
    25-Jan-2007 15:13  
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I am so disappointed vested @0.57 but....... anyone knows why like that, go up 1st morning and crash all the way down!! same patterns for genting/star Cr......must be the same punters playing these two counters!
 
 
Hulumas
    25-Jan-2007 13:04  
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Dear Hikitty,

Let the market goes whatever it goes, contra short seller will offer me a better buying opportunity at the lower price. I am so certain, the price will go up along with the IR project hyper prospective project, as I said about equivalent Sgd.10.00 or above at its peak, while completing the IR project commencing running into its business!
 
 
hikitty
    25-Jan-2007 10:27  
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Game not over for SC. Accumulating for the next breakout.   A lot of room  for price to rise?  Pse don't play contra as that would be the shortest route to suicide.
 
 
zhuge_liang
    25-Jan-2007 01:51  
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Genting Group has teamed up with Stanley Ho that will enable the Malaysian casino and hotel operator to penetrate the lucrative gaming market in Macau.



Genting will collabroate with Ho in a HK4.7 billion (US$602.3 million) hotel/casino project through a deal that the group's Star Cruises has stitched up with the gaming tycoon.

 
 
In a statement on Monday, Star Cruises said it will construct a hotel in Macau through its subsidiary, New Orisol.



Star Cruises has a 75% stake in New Orisol, with the balance in the hands of Genting's overseas investment arm, Genting International.



Star Cruises is acquiring a 75 per cent stake in Macau Land Investment Corp for HK$1.46 billion. Macau Land owns a piece of land in Macau on which it will build a boutique hotel, "Resorts World at Macau", which includes a casino on its premises by 2009.



Star Cruises said it has also signed an agreement with Ho's gaming company Sociedade de Jogos de Macau, which will operate a casino in the hotel.



In turn, Ho will acquire a stake in Star Cruises which analysts said will allow the tycoon to participate in the Genting group's $5.2 billion  casino resort project on Sentosa Island.



"Macau is the fastest growing leisure entertainment and hospitality market in the world and will be a prime beneficiary of the increasing affluence in Asia," Genting International said.



"The company, as a gloabl leisure entainment and hospitality player views Macau as a good investment opportunity," it said.



"Hence the investment in New Orisol will provide synergy and greater access to North Asia market and will benefit the group's investment and marketing activities in Singapore, United Kingdom and Malaysia."
 
 
hikitty
    24-Jan-2007 14:17  
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Short sellers could be trying their luck this morning to make kopi$$$. This could also explain why the share seems to be dipping slightly. Aiyah -  salute the daredevils who will be scalded to death by the operators who take position on SC. Contra long or contra short playing can sometimes be suicidal!  
 

 
toyshop
    24-Jan-2007 13:46  
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An article abt macau's casino business...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/24/business/worldbusiness/24macao.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

I do belive sc, gen int, capitaland are all doing the rite thing to be involved in the growing macau's casino business.. over long run, all these counters will reward the patient investors.
 
 
Hulumas
    24-Jan-2007 13:08  
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Dear Hikitty,

I agree that is one common way of explanation most probably. I hope buying today and keep for several years, it will give you several folds reward, I strongly believe its business prospect, which in some larger extent goes along hand in hand with strong progressive economic growth locally i.e. uniquely Singapore, regionally as well as globally. Keep buying and hold for hyper long term please!!
 
 
hikitty
    24-Jan-2007 12:46  
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Hi lg1167 & all

Operators  have to clear the contra players b4 trying to  move the share upwards.   Rather irrational to think that all those who bought yesterday are all going  to lose or are contra players.    Don't always hope to make kopi $$$ on any share through contra play despite the high trading volume - it's not that easy..
 
 
limkt009
    24-Jan-2007 12:40  
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Agreed. Analyst's report is for information, it should be taken not only with salt but with sugar as well.
 
 
Hulumas
    24-Jan-2007 12:23  
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Dear Lg1167,

It is common, none of the stock counters in this world without fluctuation in its price, especially after surging substantially, however, I shall treat it a very good buying opportunity with this price level now, for further gain along with the time goes by!!! I buy some again today.
 
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