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This is the CHANGE at Tiger Air.
The Resorts World Sentosa Alliance is a TRANSFORMATION for Tiger Air.
SO, it is HOW SIA is associated with GENTING SINGAPORE.
Beating Round the BUSHES and then MATCH.
*Extremely Interesting INNOVATION INDEED*
* * * * * * * * Q U O T E
investment ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 18:02) Posted:
Singapore, 19 February 2010.
Singapore today announced plans for a chartered aircraft dedicated to flying
overseas guests to Resorts World Sentosa, Singapore’s first integrated resort.
Yet to be named, the private flight service, operated by Tiger Airways, will
have an aircraft operating as a dedicated charter service for Resorts World
Sentosa, transporting guests between Singapore and other cities around the
region.
Under the Memorandum of Understanding signed on 5
Resorts World Sentosa will take over the lease of the aircraft, while pilots and
cabin crew of Tiger Airways operate the dedicated plane, which will ply Tiger
Airways’ existing region-wide network, as well as short haul routes within Asia
and Australasia.
Scheduled to commence operations in late 2010, the airline is poised to be
yet another mode of transportation for overseas guests from the region
travelling to and from Resorts World Sentosa. Details and flight schedules are
still be finalized, but guests can expect a seamless journey that would span
affordable air-travel followed by land transfers to Singapore’s first integrated
resort on Sentosa island.
Ms Rosalynn Tay, Managing Director of Tiger Airways Singapore, said: "We
are proud to partner Resorts World Sentosa in bringing more visitors to
Singapore. This is a real alliance with real benefits to both partners. While
Tiger Airways gets a new revenue stream and reduced costs, Resorts World
Sentosa gets a cost-effective solution to bringing more customers to
Singapore’s most exciting new destination.”
“Having grown from a young cub to a big strong cat, it is time Tiger Airways
Singapore has its own cub to add strength and joy to the Tiger family. Asia
has many other untapped opportunities and we look forward to creating more
innovative ways to grow our paw prints in the Year of the Tiger,” Ms Tay
added.
Ms Liang Wern Ling, Director of Destination Sales, Resorts World Sentosa,
said: "We promised Singapore that Resorts World Sentosa will bring tourism
to the country and reinvent its tourism landscape. We are creating our own
airline with this first aircraft, which shows our commitment to bringing the
economic benefits to Singapore.’’ Resorts World Sentosa and Tiger Airwaysth February 2010, |
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Expected result!
RESULT OUT in sgx website
8. A review of the performance of the group, to the extent necessary for a reasonable
The Group recorded consolidated revenue of S$491.2 million for the current financial year
compared to S$630.7 million in 2008. The reduction is mainly due to a decrease of S$141.8
million in revenue from the Group’s UK casino operations. Revenue from the UK casino
operations were depressed by lower business volume and lower win % due to poor luck factor as
compared to previous year. The reduction was further exacerbated by the weakening of the
Sterling Pound against the Singapore Dollar.
Group loss before taxation increased from S$148.5 million in the previous financial year to
S$265.7 million in the current financial year due mainly to the following:
Net asset value (“NAV”) for the issuer and group per ordinary share based on the issued
share capital of the issuer at the end of the (a) current period reported on; and (b)
immediately preceding financial year.
(Singapore cents) 31 December 2009 31 December 2008
Group 35.36 cents 28.41 cents
Company 41.17 cents 34.05 cents
Net asset value per ordinary share as at 31 December 2009 and 31 December 2008 are
calculated based on the number of issued shares of the Company at those dates of
11,690,065,619 and 9,637,737,746 shares respectively.
gen sp reaching bottom?closed a doji today....will reverse soon?
CitiGroup must be NUT.
It canNOT even run its own banks properly and LOST its HOUSE.
Now, it is trying to TEACH a CASINO SAGE, Genting Bhd, "HOW to run a CASINO?"
Just a few Genting Diamond and Gold Card members can more than cover the amount of (34,000 x USD100) per day.
Even the ordinary Indonesian in the news also brought S$1000 to bet.
May be the analyst did not get his or her pay and was too HUNGRY to do a decent analysis.
Didn't MM say that one day's profit's was already more than S$3Million????
When CitiGroup is in such a DIRE STATE, it should be DISqualified from all analysis.
WHEN it can't analyse and conduct its own business properly????
# # # #
For Immediate Release
Citigroup Inc. (NYSE: C)
January 19, 2010
CITIGROUP REPORTS 2009 FULL YEAR MANAGED REVENUES1 OF $91.1 BILLION AND
EXPENSES OF $47.8 BILLION
FULL YEAR 2009 NET LOSS OF $1.6 BILLION
FOURTH QUARTER NET LOSS OF $7.6 BILLION ($0.33 PER SHARE); $1.4 BILLION ($0.06 PER
SHARE) EXCLUDING THE IMPACT OF TARP REPAYMENT AND EXIT OF LOSSSHARING
AGREEMENT
NET CREDIT LOSSES LOWER FOR SECOND CONSECUTIVE QUARTER
TIER 1 CAPITAL RATIO OF 11.7% AND TIER 1 COMMON RATIO2 OF 9.6%
TIER 1 COMMON OF $104.6 BILLION AND ALLOWANCE FOR LOAN LOSSES OF $36.0 BILLION
CITICORP 2009 NET INCOME OF $14.7 BILLION, UP FROM $6.1 BILLION IN 2008
CITI HOLDINGS ASSETS DOWN $168 BILLION OR 23% IN 2009, AND $351 BILLION FROM
PEAK LEVELS
New York – Citigroup today reported a full year 2009 net loss of $1.6 billion, or $0.80 per share. Managed
revenues were $91.1 billion for the year. The fourth quarter 2009 net loss was $7.6 billion, or $0.33 per share.
Excluding the $6.2 billion after-tax loss associated with TARP repayment and exiting the loss-sharing agreement,
the fourth quarter net loss was $1.4 billion or $0.06 per share.
The provision for loan losses3 in the fourth quarter was $8.2 billion, down 36% from the prior year and 10% from the
prior quarter.
“We have made enormous progress in 2009,” said Vikram Pandit, Chief Executive Officer of Citigroup. “It was our
responsibility to get our own house in order. We greatly improved Citi’s capital strength, reduced the size and
scope of the company, and refocused our business strategy to take advantage of our unmatched global network.
We created Citi Holdings to rationalize non-strategic businesses, totally overhauled risk management, cut costs by
over $13 billion annually, reduced headcount by 100,000, and reduced assets by $500 billion from peak levels.
And to take advantage of all these changes, we assembled a talented new management team focused on the new
Citicorp franchise to move us forward.
“We also completed the repayment of $20 billion invested in the company by the U.S. government through the
Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and exited the loss-sharing agreement with the government,” said Mr. Pandit.
vostro69 ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 17:08) Posted:
Genting Singapore falls a fourth day amid concern over visitors
Genting Singapore Plc, owner of Singapore’s first casino, fell for a fourth day amid concern the venture may draw fewer visitors than forecast, reported Bloomberg.
The stock lost 1.1% to 94 cents, down 11% since Resorts World at Sentosa, a gambling and entertainment facility, opened on Feb 14. Genting has slumped 28% this year, the worst performance on the Straits Times Index, which has retreated 5.6%.
Genting ended 2009 at a record-high of $1.30 as investors anticipated a boost in revenue from starting up the island-state’s first so-called integrated resort. The $6.6 billion venture had 60,000 patrons in the first three days, Robin Goh, a Resorts World spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement today.
“Expectations are in our view unrealistically bullish for a virgin casino market,” said Dominic Noel-Johnson, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Citigroup Inc. “While a few days don’t constitute a trend, initial visitors to the Singapore casino are significantly below our estimates.”
The facility needs 34,000 visitors each spending at least US$100 ($141) a day to meet Noel-Johnson’s “below consensus estimates,” he said. Citigroup rates Genting Singapore “sell.”
Analysts at BNP Paribas and CLSA Asia Pacific Markets said they will keep their “buy” ratings on Genting Singapore stock because the outlook will change as the company completes remaining phases of the venture on the island linked to Singapore by bridge.
The casino has had a “good start” gauging from the US$28.5 million ($40.28 million) gaming revenue that Asian Gaming Intelligence estimates Resorts World garnered in the first 36 hours of operations, Aaron Fischer, an analyst at CLSA Asia Pacific in Hong Kong, said in an e-mailed note. “Overall, it’s been strong, but we do not have enough data to determine the long-term success or failure of the casino.”
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Money cost averaging in share and cut loss in forex! I have never cut loss in share but profit taking, paper gain, money cost averaging, paper loss, switching sell to buy, buy and sell throughout my stock portfolio investment!
daphnecsf ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 16:05) Posted:
I oso kena...bought 0.975... Just cut 0.935... Too many TP say overvalue... :( |
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I totally agreed with you. Where got people paid S$100 entrance fee to just gamble US$100? Citi analyst should fire this staff who write this
Sarahli ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 17:21) Posted:
I think that Citi analyst should fold up and quit giving his misguided analysis of the casino. I say this because he htinks his estimate ie, USD100 x 34000 gamblers is like a very high bar. He sounds like he has never seen the Asian gamblers play. They usually don't walk into a casino with only $100-200 in their pocket to play. Hence, I don't think his estimate is hard to beat even if there are only half the patrons he assumed to break even.
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How do they allow such analysing to be published? I think he must be thinking of old folks playing 1 cents each time for jackpot machines in western casinos.
For a high roller 2 -3 chips can easily cover the whole 34000 pax. Most players going to Genting plays much more than the $100. At least afew hundred.
Looks like we have better analysts in the forums ; )
The angmoh analyst may lives or based in Hong Kong but he still thinks like an angmoh. No wonder Citi is in big shit, losing lot of money. Want to trust him or believe that Asians are gamblers. US100 per person is way too low.
i agree we are dealing with chinese gamblers lei...siao we chinese do nothing but live to gamble another day. my friend say travel agents book full with chinese visitors asking to go gamble everyday. Never go to the cruise ship before meh....those play all ten k ten k on table one.
I think that Citi analyst should fold up and quit giving his misguided analysis of the casino. I say this because he htinks his estimate ie, USD100 x 34000 gamblers is like a very high bar. He sounds like he has never seen the Asian gamblers play. They usually don't walk into a casino with only $100-200 in their pocket to play. Hence, I don't think his estimate is hard to beat even if there are only half the patrons he assumed to break even.
that is why LVsands is losing money yet once again. as a player i would visit a "fair" casino. i think they give out free food and free staysetc to big punters small punters go home yourselves...like my friends mom she go there free ticks, free rooms, free food, free limo etc...i guess thats how they give back.
Genting Singapore falls a fourth day amid concern over visitors
Genting Singapore Plc, owner of Singapore’s first casino, fell for a fourth day amid concern the venture may draw fewer visitors than forecast, reported Bloomberg.
The stock lost 1.1% to 94 cents, down 11% since Resorts World at Sentosa, a gambling and entertainment facility, opened on Feb 14. Genting has slumped 28% this year, the worst performance on the Straits Times Index, which has retreated 5.6%.
Genting ended 2009 at a record-high of $1.30 as investors anticipated a boost in revenue from starting up the island-state’s first so-called integrated resort. The $6.6 billion venture had 60,000 patrons in the first three days, Robin Goh, a Resorts World spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement today.
“Expectations are in our view unrealistically bullish for a virgin casino market,” said Dominic Noel-Johnson, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Citigroup Inc. “While a few days don’t constitute a trend, initial visitors to the Singapore casino are significantly below our estimates.”
The facility needs 34,000 visitors each spending at least US$100 ($141) a day to meet Noel-Johnson’s “below consensus estimates,” he said. Citigroup rates Genting Singapore “sell.”
Analysts at BNP Paribas and CLSA Asia Pacific Markets said they will keep their “buy” ratings on Genting Singapore stock because the outlook will change as the company completes remaining phases of the venture on the island linked to Singapore by bridge.
The casino has had a “good start” gauging from the US$28.5 million ($40.28 million) gaming revenue that Asian Gaming Intelligence estimates Resorts World garnered in the first 36 hours of operations, Aaron Fischer, an analyst at CLSA Asia Pacific in Hong Kong, said in an e-mailed note. “Overall, it’s been strong, but we do not have enough data to determine the long-term success or failure of the casino.”
GOOD iDEA
Short on STRENGTH
LONG on weakness
aya..this stock is Short On Strength !!! :P wait for Mon...let it go up to 95cts or so again..so more meat to SHORT next wk !! hee :D
Woah, I see short covering or pple jumping in at the moment.
Pharoah
Great insight and questions! Gambling is a losing game to all, ALL, ALL in the long run. If you win, pls run far far away and never come back, then you will stay a winner. The house is not afraid of you winning but of you never coming back. The trouble is, gamblers almost always come back for more and that's how the house always wins!
pharoah88 ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 16:32) Posted:
It is interesting to know 'HOW does Las Vegas Sand pay back 90 something percent profit to players?"
Is it done at the end of everyday? Else WHEN?
Pay back to WHICH players? At WHICH tables? At WHICH rounds? At WHICH hours?
Can this Theory be executed in Practice?
When the punters' cards are BAD, how can the banker pay out to the punters in public eyes?
I see the ONLY way to Return Money to Punters is to issue a X% value Lucky Draw Ticket to every punter or a X% Chip Rebates which is fairer.
It is really not easy to be FAIR in any business.
niuyear ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 15:49) Posted:
I read the Time Magazine article “Asia Growing Gambling Addiction” [1] with a heavy heart. I find Casino seriously distasteful because it is mere exploitation of the irrational, the superstitious and usually, the uneducated. This might be considered racist, but when it comes to gambling, the average Asian cannot count. Don’t think. And frankly, stupid.
If you have been to Genting, you know what I mean. Genting casinos games have the tables with one of the the worst odds in the world. Just take the “Pontoon” tables for example.
First, Genting does not have Blackjack tables, which is the only beatable game in Casinos through card counting (which is possible if the dealing is not done through a continuous shuffle system). In its place in Genting is called “Pontoon”. This is basically blackjack without the 10s in UK. If you understand blackjack, the more 10s and Aces in the deck, the higher the odds for the player. Pontoon is also the game that the Royal Statistical Society concluded can’t be beaten. If you have access to JSTOR, you might look at an article on this. [2]
The beauty about this is that in Genting, their variant of Pontoon is actually not the unbeatable English Pontoon above. It is worse than that. It is actually a variant of the American game Spanish 21. By calling it Pontoon confuses people, and the Genting dealers will describe the rules as “similar to blackjack.” However, Genting does not even use standard Spanish 21 rules. It only allows doubles on two hands. This is significant for two reasons. To apply a successful basic strategy in Spanish 21 games, one must double and double often, and on many cards. Without card counting (impossible under a continous shuffle system), you can reduce the house edge to about 2.08% which means you will lose less in the long run. But because 99.9 % of the gamblers in Genting (mostly Singaporeans) are still under the impression this is Blackjack or UK Pontoon, they refuse to double save on 8-9-10s, which means they are seriously in trouble – which gives them worse odds than random play.
Already lost? Yes. Most gamblers don't even bother knowing the rules of the game.
According to Edward Thorpe (who I really respect, not only because of his mathematical ability in the casino, but also in the stock market [3]) if you play without any strategy in Pontoon, the house has nearly a 30% edge (if I don’t remember wrongly). This means that if you Randomly play a 100RM a hand (which is the minimum bet sum for Pontoon in Genting) for 100 hands (one hour) you will lose about 3000 RM. And if you are "lucky", you will lose about 1000 RM. If you are unlucky, about 10000 RM.
And these “Pontoon” tables in Genting are so popular that on weekends due to the Singaporean crowd, you can forget about finding a seat, with Singaporeans clamoring to lose their money. So when Genting won the bid for the IR in Sentosa, I was pissed. If Singaporeans clamour to lose 3000 RM per hour in Genting, they will pay the entrance fee and lose more, this time in SGD. Maybe that is why Genting won the bid. They sure can lure those with money to burn. Who knows?
This is seriously an Asian problem, not an Asia one. If you go to casinos in British Columbia, Canada, you will see Chinese, Chinese, Chinese. I hope this is not taken to be racist, but the Chinese seemed more predisposed to getting addicted to gambling. Same thing for The Crown, Australia, which is supposed to be the largest Casino in the Southern Hemisphere. Same thing for Star City, Syndey. One seems to find unusually a large percentage of Chinese. Perhaps the locals prefer betting on sports than on cards, but I won’t know. I see Chinese.
So I really hope that Singapore apart from those psychological and family-centric help efforts – they must ensure that house edges are displayed at every table. Currently, I think only odds and payout might be provided. Actually odds as these people understand will be provided in any case because it is part of the rules of Gambling (Casino pays 3 to 2 on Blackjack is “odds” to the layman). This helps no one except the casinos. Gamblers will ask in any case. I hope I am not seen to be dissing the psychological and family-centric help thing here. Look, all those things are great, but - for cigarettes - you do put the warning labels right? And in this case, because the risk is mathematically quantifiable, that should be provided. Not everyone should end up in the addiction clinic. That might be too late. Information as any economists will tell you, will help a lot in making rational choices - or at least make irrational choices in the least irrational way.
So we should put house edges (Display "House has edge of 15 percent even if you use optimum strategy" - aka "everyone at this table is a rich fool").
But Gamblers tend to blow their fortune tables with a relatively low house edge too ( they think they can beat the house - aka at about the very high 5 percent house edge) because that is when it gets really addictive. When a player gets punished too much, the non-pathological tends to quit. So it is not enough to display the House Edge alone.
Another thing the state can do is to follow British Columbia Casinos where they provide basic strategy tables for games like Blackjack where if you just follow blindly, the house edge will significantly reduce – about 3 percent. Otherwise, all these family-centric and psychological help is useless to aid the "My-Mind-Can-Change-Card-Outcome" or "I-just-have-to-pray-harder" variety. Gamblers are traditionally masochistic. They have traditionally embraced relatively better odds games but make their odds worse by playing lousily. The classic example is Blackjack and more recently, Caribbean stud poker (which already has bad odds in the first place) comes to mind. Where the odds are about even, they tend to choose side bets with terrible odds.
Personally, I think gambling against the odds not wicked or immoral per se. And I won’t really call Gambling a disease per se. After all, it is beneficial when it can be beaten. Won't think that a disease in that case, will you?
But my point here is that the average Singaporeans who is addicted to bad odds in Genting already, is seriously quite screwed when the IR arrives. Someone should really tell them the house edge, the odds, and if he still chooses to play, the optimum strategy. And if he still does not follow that, nothing will save him.
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It is interesting to know 'HOW does Las Vegas Sand pay back 90 something percent profit to players?"
Is it done at the end of everyday? Else WHEN?
Pay back to WHICH players? At WHICH tables? At WHICH rounds? At WHICH hours?
Can this Theory be executed in Practice?
When the punters' cards are BAD, how can the banker pay out to the punters in public eyes?
I see the ONLY way to Return Money to Punters is to issue a X% value Lucky Draw Ticket to every punter or a X% Chip Rebates which is fairer.
It is really not easy to be FAIR in any business.
niuyear ( Date: 19-Feb-2010 15:49) Posted:
I read the Time Magazine article “Asia Growing Gambling Addiction” [1] with a heavy heart. I find Casino seriously distasteful because it is mere exploitation of the irrational, the superstitious and usually, the uneducated. This might be considered racist, but when it comes to gambling, the average Asian cannot count. Don’t think. And frankly, stupid.
If you have been to Genting, you know what I mean. Genting casinos games have the tables with one of the the worst odds in the world. Just take the “Pontoon” tables for example.
First, Genting does not have Blackjack tables, which is the only beatable game in Casinos through card counting (which is possible if the dealing is not done through a continuous shuffle system). In its place in Genting is called “Pontoon”. This is basically blackjack without the 10s in UK. If you understand blackjack, the more 10s and Aces in the deck, the higher the odds for the player. Pontoon is also the game that the Royal Statistical Society concluded can’t be beaten. If you have access to JSTOR, you might look at an article on this. [2]
The beauty about this is that in Genting, their variant of Pontoon is actually not the unbeatable English Pontoon above. It is worse than that. It is actually a variant of the American game Spanish 21. By calling it Pontoon confuses people, and the Genting dealers will describe the rules as “similar to blackjack.” However, Genting does not even use standard Spanish 21 rules. It only allows doubles on two hands. This is significant for two reasons. To apply a successful basic strategy in Spanish 21 games, one must double and double often, and on many cards. Without card counting (impossible under a continous shuffle system), you can reduce the house edge to about 2.08% which means you will lose less in the long run. But because 99.9 % of the gamblers in Genting (mostly Singaporeans) are still under the impression this is Blackjack or UK Pontoon, they refuse to double save on 8-9-10s, which means they are seriously in trouble – which gives them worse odds than random play.
Already lost? Yes. Most gamblers don't even bother knowing the rules of the game.
According to Edward Thorpe (who I really respect, not only because of his mathematical ability in the casino, but also in the stock market [3]) if you play without any strategy in Pontoon, the house has nearly a 30% edge (if I don’t remember wrongly). This means that if you Randomly play a 100RM a hand (which is the minimum bet sum for Pontoon in Genting) for 100 hands (one hour) you will lose about 3000 RM. And if you are "lucky", you will lose about 1000 RM. If you are unlucky, about 10000 RM.
And these “Pontoon” tables in Genting are so popular that on weekends due to the Singaporean crowd, you can forget about finding a seat, with Singaporeans clamoring to lose their money. So when Genting won the bid for the IR in Sentosa, I was pissed. If Singaporeans clamour to lose 3000 RM per hour in Genting, they will pay the entrance fee and lose more, this time in SGD. Maybe that is why Genting won the bid. They sure can lure those with money to burn. Who knows?
This is seriously an Asian problem, not an Asia one. If you go to casinos in British Columbia, Canada, you will see Chinese, Chinese, Chinese. I hope this is not taken to be racist, but the Chinese seemed more predisposed to getting addicted to gambling. Same thing for The Crown, Australia, which is supposed to be the largest Casino in the Southern Hemisphere. Same thing for Star City, Syndey. One seems to find unusually a large percentage of Chinese. Perhaps the locals prefer betting on sports than on cards, but I won’t know. I see Chinese.
So I really hope that Singapore apart from those psychological and family-centric help efforts – they must ensure that house edges are displayed at every table. Currently, I think only odds and payout might be provided. Actually odds as these people understand will be provided in any case because it is part of the rules of Gambling (Casino pays 3 to 2 on Blackjack is “odds” to the layman). This helps no one except the casinos. Gamblers will ask in any case. I hope I am not seen to be dissing the psychological and family-centric help thing here. Look, all those things are great, but - for cigarettes - you do put the warning labels right? And in this case, because the risk is mathematically quantifiable, that should be provided. Not everyone should end up in the addiction clinic. That might be too late. Information as any economists will tell you, will help a lot in making rational choices - or at least make irrational choices in the least irrational way.
So we should put house edges (Display "House has edge of 15 percent even if you use optimum strategy" - aka "everyone at this table is a rich fool").
But Gamblers tend to blow their fortune tables with a relatively low house edge too ( they think they can beat the house - aka at about the very high 5 percent house edge) because that is when it gets really addictive. When a player gets punished too much, the non-pathological tends to quit. So it is not enough to display the House Edge alone.
Another thing the state can do is to follow British Columbia Casinos where they provide basic strategy tables for games like Blackjack where if you just follow blindly, the house edge will significantly reduce – about 3 percent. Otherwise, all these family-centric and psychological help is useless to aid the "My-Mind-Can-Change-Card-Outcome" or "I-just-have-to-pray-harder" variety. Gamblers are traditionally masochistic. They have traditionally embraced relatively better odds games but make their odds worse by playing lousily. The classic example is Blackjack and more recently, Caribbean stud poker (which already has bad odds in the first place) comes to mind. Where the odds are about even, they tend to choose side bets with terrible odds.
Personally, I think gambling against the odds not wicked or immoral per se. And I won’t really call Gambling a disease per se. After all, it is beneficial when it can be beaten. Won't think that a disease in that case, will you?
But my point here is that the average Singaporeans who is addicted to bad odds in Genting already, is seriously quite screwed when the IR arrives. Someone should really tell them the house edge, the odds, and if he still chooses to play, the optimum strategy. And if he still does not follow that, nothing will save him.
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i go Midas now.. good luck
oh..i get u now...ok..shhhhhhh