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Looking at Genting's past results. They really make big looses year after year since few years back.
There really isn't any benefit being their share holders. No devidents given for years.
Perhaps they are hoping that the Sentosa casino will help them tro be back to the black.
Yearly looses ranged from 300-400 millions.
If Sentosa casino and resort could generate for them 400 - 500 million or more annually.
They will be in profits first time after years in the red.
That is IF. And from the way, the ppl is packing the casino halls...........it may well be.
Things are picking up, high rolers are coming.....................
may i knw, how do you al define cut-loss point?
by % drop, or upon breaking support level?
pls advise...thanks
star-trader ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 11:40) Posted:
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Happy to know that you guys are learning now ! :)
Cutting loss is part of the trading stock market strategy.. Just bear in mind this thing... if you have 10 trades, you cut loss on 2 trades by following the rules of trading, you will win the other 8 trades which overall you are making money...
Stocks are always up and down.. You will always have a chance to ride on the winning trade.. Happy investing and trading!
star-trader
matrixneo ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:42) Posted:
agree... :) hotokee....like u said...its discipline...discipline comes from the head not heart....u must not take loss into your heart...and not let the rebound after you sell affect you...else your heart will come into play again...train train train...ommmmmmmmmmmmm |
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it's good to me if it falls below .90.. range of .8 to .9.. not good now..
Hulumas ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 13:08) Posted:
Is Genting SP a good stock?
kellychang ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:31) Posted:
nvm la..lesson learned...
in future, dun anyhow luan luan buy...
also, avoiding china stock...
well, i see cosco and yang zi jiang...also scared...
somemore they are china blue chips leh...
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Is Genting SP a good stock?
kellychang ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:31) Posted:
nvm la..lesson learned...
in future, dun anyhow luan luan buy...
also, avoiding china stock...
well, i see cosco and yang zi jiang...also scared...
somemore they are china blue chips leh...
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It is still possible by the way of "Merger & Acquisition". It means some one marriages both Mother and her Daughter they are all different to all your surname!(Emperor life style). Ha. ha.. ha... Joking!!!
pharoah88 ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 12:40) Posted:
Genting SP is like a Sweet Young Thing [SYT] whom every man wants to IN.
But every man who wants to IN a SYT is at the SAME time FEARING that he canNOT TAHANG LONG LONG LONG.
And will KINA the GREEN GREEN GREEN CAP to become like a TURTLE or TORTISE.
For those who have the SYT FEAR need to substitute it with Sour Old Thing [SOT].
That is LIVE.
A recent article wrote, "HAPPY in an UNhappy State"
HAPPY to admire the SYT and yet UNhappy to own it due to SYT FEAR.
With SOT, it is "UNhappy in a HAPPY State" instead.
That is LIVE, AGAIN.
It is also IMpossible to be "HAPPY in a HAPPY State"
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Genting SP is like a Sweet Young Thing [SYT] whom every man wants to IN.
But every man who wants to IN a SYT is at the SAME time FEARING that he canNOT TAHANG LONG LONG LONG.
And will KINA the GREEN GREEN GREEN CAP to become like a TURTLE or TORTISE.
For those who have the SYT FEAR need to substitute it with Sour Old Thing [SOT].
That is LIVE.
A recent article wrote, "HAPPY in an UNhappy State"
HAPPY to admire the SYT and yet UNhappy to own it due to SYT FEAR.
With SOT, it is "UNhappy in a HAPPY State" instead.
That is LIVE, AGAIN.
It is also IMpossible to be "HAPPY in a HAPPY State"
Star-trade, is it true that if you don't cut loss, the syndicates don't make money from you or the market and therefore they will trash down the price further to show that their short positions are further making profits in the books?
star-trader ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 11:40) Posted:
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Happy to know that you guys are learning now ! :)
Cutting loss is part of the trading stock market strategy.. Just bear in mind this thing... if you have 10 trades, you cut loss on 2 trades by following the rules of trading, you will win the other 8 trades which overall you are making money...
Stocks are always up and down.. You will always have a chance to ride on the winning trade.. Happy investing and trading!
star-trader
matrixneo ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:42) Posted:
agree... :) hotokee....like u said...its discipline...discipline comes from the head not heart....u must not take loss into your heart...and not let the rebound after you sell affect you...else your heart will come into play again...train train train...ommmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Happy to know that you guys are learning now ! :)
Cutting loss is part of the trading stock market strategy.. Just bear in mind this thing... if you have 10 trades, you cut loss on 2 trades by following the rules of trading, you will win the other 8 trades which overall you are making money...
Stocks are always up and down.. You will always have a chance to ride on the winning trade.. Happy investing and trading!
star-trader
matrixneo ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:42) Posted:
agree... :) hotokee....like u said...its discipline...discipline comes from the head not heart....u must not take loss into your heart...and not let the rebound after you sell affect you...else your heart will come into play again...train train train...ommmmmmmmmmmmm
AnthonyTan ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:34) Posted:
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If you set a cut loss nos, take it with a pinch of salt.
e.g.ppl who bought genting at $1.25 - $1.30. If their
cut loss is 5 - 10%, they can buy cheaper now.I have learnt
my lesson before. You don't have to wait until your neck
long long for it to go up. The mkt is always there for you
to fight another day. Just wait for apportunity. At least you
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To speculate a little bit lah
i thk dun pin too much hope on this counter lah....it is highly non-fundamental and "manipulated" stock! in line with it's GAMBLING business hor! :D
AnthonyTan ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 11:25) Posted:
Waiting for the BB's to create some excitment
in this counter. Uncles & Aunties are playing now. |
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Waiting for the BB's to create some excitment
in this counter. Uncles & Aunties are playing now.
Too late liao lah, I kanna left and right already. Now only hope one counter that is my 20 lots genting can give me good profits to cover losses elsewhere.
AnthonyTan ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:50) Posted:
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Listing requirements are different now. Previously
SGX need at least 3 preceeding years of profit before
companies are allowed to be listed. Now this requirement
is no more. So much so, plenty of China S-Chips are listed
here.Those good companies are listed in China and Hong Kong.
Trade with care.
hotokee ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:37) Posted:
Cutting loss is a good protection strategy, but this is a very hard discipline to follow. As a share investor our dependency for the safety of our money lies with the authorities beyond the win and lose in trading. The regulatory part is beyond our control. In company failures resulting from "misdemeanour", I think SGX authorities need some concepts of resonsibilities put in place. In some countries they have the insurance to take care of unnatural losses like result of foul management of the companies and finances. |
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SGX cannot luan luan let companies be listed.
aya..SGX oso need to suck them abit of $$ to survive wat? u thk depends on ur clearance fee can survive meh ???:P
AnthonyTan ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:50) Posted:
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Listing requirements are different now. Previously
SGX need at least 3 preceeding years of profit before
companies are allowed to be listed. Now this requirement
is no more. So much so, plenty of China S-Chips are listed
here.Those good companies are listed in China and Hong Kong.
Trade with care.
hotokee ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:37) Posted:
Cutting loss is a good protection strategy, but this is a very hard discipline to follow. As a share investor our dependency for the safety of our money lies with the authorities beyond the win and lose in trading. The regulatory part is beyond our control. In company failures resulting from "misdemeanour", I think SGX authorities need some concepts of resonsibilities put in place. In some countries they have the insurance to take care of unnatural losses like result of foul management of the companies and finances. |
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Beside win or loss in trading, sometimes investors got wiped out because nobody knows what happend inside a company. SGX can see the outside when it appears fine although the inside is rotten. This is especially so in new companies (IPOs) where the picture is always rosy prior to IPO and then later changed to dirt after listing.
There are others factros too that I have explored. And I think an investor can lose big money when they are targetted by syndicates who have strong links with the king of the exchange when they can access vital information about potential good and bad companies or customers investment profiles. As the market people says, one button only everything is there!!
hotokee ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:37) Posted:
Cutting loss is a good protection strategy, but this is a very hard discipline to follow. As a share investor our dependency for the safety of our money lies with the authorities beyond the win and lose in trading. The regulatory part is beyond our control. In company failures resulting from "misdemeanour", I think SGX authorities need some concepts of resonsibilities put in place. In some countries they have the insurance to take care of unnatural losses like result of foul management of the companies and finances. |
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Listing requirements are different now. Previously
SGX need at least 3 preceeding years of profit before
companies are allowed to be listed. Now this requirement
is no more. So much so, plenty of China S-Chips are listed
here.Those good companies are listed in China and Hong Kong.
Trade with care.
hotokee ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:37) Posted:
Cutting loss is a good protection strategy, but this is a very hard discipline to follow. As a share investor our dependency for the safety of our money lies with the authorities beyond the win and lose in trading. The regulatory part is beyond our control. In company failures resulting from "misdemeanour", I think SGX authorities need some concepts of resonsibilities put in place. In some countries they have the insurance to take care of unnatural losses like result of foul management of the companies and finances. |
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agree... :)
hotokee....like u said...its discipline...discipline comes from the head not heart....u must not take loss into your heart...and not let the rebound after you sell affect you...else your heart will come into play again...train train train...ommmmmmmmmmmmm
AnthonyTan ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:34) Posted:
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If you set a cut loss nos, take it with a pinch of salt.
e.g.ppl who bought genting at $1.25 - $1.30. If their
cut loss is 5 - 10%, they can buy cheaper now.I have learnt
my lesson before. You don't have to wait until your neck
long long for it to go up. The mkt is always there for you
to fight another day. Just wait for apportunity. At least you
can sleep in peace.
matrixneo ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:16) Posted:
| be careful...I advise not to do that...Just to give you an example when I first started out 'trading'....just follow friends...My Chartered Semi bought at 4.78...within 1 yr dropped to 1+...then followed by penny stock...then bought over by overseas company...and now...GONE!....Even such a big blue chip company can disappear from the market...so not all giants are spared...trade with a cut loss mindset..play with head not heart |
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there used to be a stock (forgot which one)hiking up as high as 1.30+ but then after crisis drop to 20cent until now nvr go up. feed viagra also no use le...dead speculative stock. but genting.sp at least still got hope of prospect...if u dont mind holding it for long term more than 5yrs then still ok. just my honest opinion...
Cutting loss is a good protection strategy, but this is a very hard discipline to follow. As a share investor our dependency for the safety of our money lies with the authorities beyond the win and lose in trading. The regulatory part is beyond our control. In company failures resulting from "misdemeanour", I think SGX authorities need some concepts of resonsibilities put in place. In some countries they have the insurance to take care of unnatural losses like result of foul management of the companies and finances.
well...they hapi slash by 13cts...so u slash another 13cts from 1.07 that give u 94cts !! haha....so i slash again 94-13=83cts !! that is my new SHORTing level ! :P
daphnecsf ( Date: 23-Feb-2010 10:34) Posted:
OMG, DBS research for Genting Singapore remain HOLD.
"FY09 profit exceeded our and market expectations
due to lower pre-operating losses."
"Cut 2010-2012F earnings by 23-37% due to slower
than expected ramp up. Maintain Hold, TP slashed to
S$1.07 (from S$1.20)."
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