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Prepare for risk of double-dip recession

of course...1000 yrs...well we see it after fall..to mid 2010...forget abt TA...he himself also say it is not fantastic...he admited himself right???

it is just past data collected..if u follow TA last Mar..u miss the train together with him.....i am sure he is..

thomas_low      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 22:54) Posted: I heard something very interesteing from the Radio 938.5, he talked about financial advisors, they always say market is bullish but there is a chance of downside. So I pretend to be a financial advisor here, The bull market continues as the sentiments in US are improving but there is a chance of double dip. Useful huh? We must prepare for another meltdown which will happen one day (yes if you project it for another 1000 years I can guarantee there will be one serious meltdonw)... Simply my dear financial advisors, please tell us within what timeframe the bull market will be there and whithin which timeframe the bear will be there and not say stupid things like it may happen. If you quote like that, my little 3 years old can also be a financial advisor. Have a good day tomorrow think before you advise your clients tomorrow. Cheers.

 

I think double-dip is not possible,  all country government also don't allow the double-dip recession occur. we also maybe underestimate the American economy self-recovered function.don't forget china market, the government is incenting the internal expense, I know there are many infrastructure ongoing which include railway,high speed railway, airport etc. even expanding rural country, china is marching in a way which you can't imagine.china increament will bring asia market recover, hi guys, don't worry too much , just join in the bull market, maximum your profit! otherwise you will regret that you miss a chance which maybe change your life.

 

I heard something very interesteing from the Radio 938.5, he talked about financial advisors, they always say market is bullish but there is a chance of downside. So I pretend to be a financial advisor here,

The bull market continues as the sentiments in US are improving but there is a chance of double dip. Useful huh? We must prepare for another meltdown which will happen one day (yes if you project it for another 1000 years I can guarantee there will be one serious meltdonw)...

Simply my dear financial advisors, please tell us within what timeframe the bull market will be there and whithin which timeframe the bear will be there and not say stupid things like it may happen. If you quote like that, my little 3 years old can also be a financial advisor. Have a good day tomorrow think before you advise your clients tomorrow. Cheers.

 

Alamak... I see another TA vs Anti-TA war brewing.....

PEACE !!!

 

sti 1000 n dow 3800 is next crisis.

 

Actually in my humble opinion you need both TA and FA, get to know your FA first, wait for the TA and then strike. If you think FA for a company is so good then you may want to ignore TA and go for what you know, conversely the folks are all thinking so negatively about the market, then you get out when the TA is pointing to bear, dont care about the FA for the companies you think you know so much.  The third A you need is RA, which is a risk assessment. There is no right or wrong, good or bad, it is a holistic approach. 

 

Hahah... I beg to differ,

As a gentleman, I shall not argue with un-gentlewoman who are stubborn.

Just wondering who is stubborn, I just think it is the pot tat calls the kettle black.

Nah...nah,,,nah... TA is not fantastic, not miracle hocus-pocus crystal ball prediction, is not infallible, so TA cant make sure sti will reach 3000...and dow 10000..  just as I think your views may be right n may also be wrong as we are all mere mortals unless u have that supernatural divine powers.

So since u have divine supernatural powers, u make sure sti 1000 n dow 3800, but alas u may be also right by sheer luck as it is 50/50 chance.

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 22:19) Posted: OK..OK..OK..kellychang and cheongwee are gentlewoman...we are not going to argue with ungentleman..guy.who are stubborn, OK..OK..your TA is fantastic,,..but make sure it is pointing at sti 3000...and dow 10000..

 

sti 3k, dow 10k  r  both going 2 happen tis yr.

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 22:19) Posted: OK..OK..OK..kellychang and cheongwee are gentlewoman...we are not going to argue with ungentleman..guy.who are stubborn, OK..OK..your TA is fantastic,,..but make sure it is pointing at sti 3000...and dow 10000..

 

OK..OK..OK..kellychang and cheongwee are gentlewoman...we are not going to argue with ungentleman..guy.who are stubborn,

OK..OK..your TA is fantastic,,..but make sure it is pointing at sti 3000...and dow 10000..

 

Since cheongwee said TA is lousy, read below from some well-known analyst on why TA is not lousy:

How to Grab Significant Short-Term Profits From Technical Trading

by Mark Skousen, Advisory Panelist

Highlights in this issue:

• Why you should add a few technical tools to your investment arsenal.

• How to gauge investor sentiment, "tech-style."

• These two effective technical indicators point to three investments.

Dear Investment U Reader,

"The overwhelming majority of economic theories, market forecasts, trading strategies, investment systems, hot tips and sure-fire speculations never pan out." ~ Alexander Green

In the August 14 Investment U issue - "Why Most Investment Systems Simply Don't Work" - Alexander Green urged you to stick with the tried-and-true method of fundamental analysis.

He did so using this mantra: "There is only one thing that dictates where a stock will go: earnings."

I agree that earnings are the ultimate determinant of stock prices in the long run. But that's not the only way to gauge where a stock is headed next.

I firmly believe that technical analysis - volume, trading patterns and historical trends - can enhance your returns tremendously and can keep you out of trouble in many cases. Here's why...

How an Earnings-Based Investment Model Crippled Bank of America Buyers

The problem with taking a straight earnings approach to investing is that stock prices aren't determined by current or past earnings, but by future earnings in relation to the current price.

Throughout the past decade, for example, earnings looked great for Bank of America (NYSE: BAC). In June 2008, it earned a record $3 billion. You'd have made a bundle of money investing in BAC during the new millennium. Factoring in rising dividends, stock splits and share price appreciation, you'd have tripled your money.

But over the next year, Bank of America's earnings plummeted, and by the end of 2008 it had lost $2.3 billion. The stock followed, collapsing from $50 to under $3 a share, wiping out all of the previous eight years' worth of profits (although the stock has since rebounded to $17 a share).

By time the bank announced a sharp drop in earnings, the price was way down - and investors who bought based on earnings had lost their shirts.

So how does one anticipate an earnings collapse like that?

Use Technical Analysis to Prevent Pain - And Profit

Needless to say, sound economic analysis doesn't hurt. Many economists (including our own Alex Green) predicted a real estate collapse and the subsequent financial trouble.

But using technical and historical trend analysis can also prove extremely helpful in improving your investment results.

For example, many technical analysts have fared extremely well over the past decade (and more), using chart patterns, volume and historical trends. And investors like Bert Dohmen, Jim Dines and Dennis Slothower profited from major trends in commodities, stocks and foreign currency, while avoiding most of the financial crises in 2008, because they used an advanced version of technical analysis.

Here are two other simple tools that have proven very effective...

If you used these two technical tools together, you'd have got out the stock market in October 2007 and not re-entered until April this year - without being whipsawed back into the market. Not bad.

Chart: http://www.investmentu.com/images/iu082709chart.gif

Gauging Investor Sentiment... Tech-Style

Put simply, technical analysis isn't a crystal ball, but it's a good way to measure the psychology of the market.

When new highs and new lows are at all-time highs, it suggests a strong bullish trend. Conversely, if the indicator is at an all-time low, it signals incredible pessimism.

The new highs/new lows indicator gave a sell signal in October 2007 and a buy signal in April 2009 it's still bullish.

According to the chart, the market is headed higher, so investors should consider several choices...

Of course, technical traders use a variety of ratios, indicators and charting patterns to make their buying and selling decisions. Their systems are never perfect because human action is not always predictable, but human behavior and the herd instincts are sometimes quite apparent and experienced traders can make a great deal of money and avoid the worst of bear markets.

Good trading - AEIOU,

Mark Skousen

richtan      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 19:04) Posted: TA is not infallible but tat does not mean it is lousy, just bcos u dun use TA does not mean it is lousy. Nah.. u r absolutely wrong, I dun claim to be always right, in all my post I always mentioned 'dyodd n BOSAYOR as I may be right or wrong, I m no saint with divine powers" like u seems to claim to have. Your mouth is yours, so say wat u want, there is no need for me to prove u wrong tat I did not miss the boat by following TA in March low, wat matters is profits in my bank account, no need to gloat how much I made in a forum, be modest n humble. Tell tat to all TA practitioner tat TA is rubbish, lucky u r not modern day emperor "Chin Shih Huang Ti", otherwise u will oreder burning all TA books in the country n death penalty to those tat practice TA, n listen to your saintly all mighty divine powers, u must be better than GOD, hahaha... Everyone has the right to reply to rebut, by rebuting does not mean being sensitive or pride, these are 2 different things. Tell this "it is mostly man who are sensitive and like to live in their past" to your man, dun paint all man with one stroke of the brush. So at least Warren Buffet is a man at least, spo man is not useless as u said ..hahaha     cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:45) Posted: Dont listen to those analyst who base their call on TA...they are expert in TA and make ppl lose big time.. if TA are danmned good, they shd be buying stock and not making call....and since richtan said it is infallible..so it is...he agree that TA is lousy.. there u see... he even claim he is neutral....because he want to be always right...but i know he is the real one who is wrong and really miss the boat if he follow TA in March low.... you just listen and watch out for leading indicater that tell the economy..not analyst.and those TA...and dont waste your 2k to 3k to attend those rubbish TA seminar lesson conducted by analyst??u be sorry....better pay for a course to improve your job prospect... TA are nothing short of guessing game...collect previous traded data and computed into a nice graph...with many waves of multiple color and chart a future trend....so when it is uptrend...they say "oh it is mostly up .unless it cross.or it break...so on and so on...'..and when down...they will say mostly down.....and u know..they are mostly wrong all the time...all this look professional...but are 50/50 thing... way back in March alot of TA expert was shouting STI 1200...were u there!!!remember..and now they are bullish...wah STI now if not break  2500 will be 2900.by yr end....it is absurb...pure rubbish how to believe ppl are non judegement abt thing.....when u read, u will definitely form an opinion and arrive at a conclusion...unless u dont know what u are reading about... no wonder they look to the past to forcast the future. ...and to say he is no sensitive is a lied...then why is he posting to explain his view...look he is fighting for his pride, when he is telling everyone here he is neutral and ego means nothing....to him.. nothing is balance in this universe..try to be...u can never achieve it...only in your dream...man.. it is mostly man who are sensitive and like to live in their past. ..the next WB is a woman,,,   .

 

i think sti below 1600 tough, u r looking at 1000, so 1400 also bonus.

 

lookcc....1400 will be a bonus hoh...i am looking at 1000....but i hope u are rtight..

but if it have to be, then so be it...we just be prepare for the wosre..

tonite job claim ok, but not impressive...

trade widen..but that would be a positive sign that consumption maybe picking up...

lookcc      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:56) Posted: nexy yr sti 1400....dun think so. kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

Are women of today not keen on starting a family? What would be more important in your life? A great career or a family. Just curious. Yes, I agree women today are more educated and more independent

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:53) Posted: your bf???..i thought u married..or r u still single?? kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:42) Posted: well...i earn more than my bf.. i know finance, accounts,investment.. my bf know nothing... somemore, i not only a career woman...but also i have to cook nice soup n foods for him during weekend... see, woman nowadays are not easy !!

 

nexy yr sti 1400....dun think so.

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 18:08) Posted: my shifu also asked me  to wait next year...STI 1400 then just buy...

 

well, i think he is smarter than you then.

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:42) Posted: well...i earn more than my bf.. i know finance, accounts,investment.. my bf know nothing... somemore, i not only a career woman...but also i have to cook nice soup n foods for him during weekend... see, woman nowadays are not easy !!  cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:25) Posted: yes...u are right...even my old man lose me in term of turnover...and with handsome profit fr stock...he look even worse...hahaha...and i give him business contact..all his contact no $$$..less contract ..so less business for him.. and look at my daugther..more brilliant than my 2 sons.in term of education or earning power!!!

 

your bf???..i thought u married..or r u still single??

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:42) Posted: well...i earn more than my bf.. i know finance, accounts,investment.. my bf know nothing... somemore, i not only a career woman...but also i have to cook nice soup n foods for him during weekend... see, woman nowadays are not easy !!  cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:25) Posted: yes...u are right...even my old man lose me in term of turnover...and with handsome profit fr stock...he look even worse...hahaha...and i give him business contact..all his contact no $$$..less contract ..so less business for him.. and look at my daugther..more brilliant than my 2 sons.in term of education or earning power!!!

 

well...i earn more than my bf.. i know finance, accounts,investment.. my bf know nothing... somemore, i not only a career woman...but also i have to cook nice soup n foods for him during weekend...

see, woman nowadays are not easy !! 

cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:25) Posted: yes...u are right...even my old man lose me in term of turnover...and with handsome profit fr stock...he look even worse...hahaha...and i give him business contact..all his contact no $$$..less contract ..so less business for him.. and look at my daugther..more brilliant than my 2 sons.in term of education or earning power!!!  kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:16) Posted: haha...agree... i am a woman also... what the guy can do, we also can do... nowadays woman not only stay at home, look after baby... but also have to work to support the family...

 

My favourite PM have always been MM Lee...witrhout him, we would not have been in today strong position...

He can talk well, do well , all rounder...i enjoy listening to him whenever he talk at ND rally...He is brilliant.

 

I thk we will have a woman PM...look at our current one...he dont talk well, even his smile is not genuine...look like he is been force to smile on TV...he cant smile naturally, like Obama..

But i admit he is doing the job well, otherwise, next election we choose woman to lead...call him to read this post.

 

yes...u are right...even my old man lose me in term of turnover...and with handsome profit fr stock...he look even worse...hahaha...and i give him business contact..all his contact no $$$..less contract ..so less business for him..

and look at my daugther..more brilliant than my 2 sons.in term of education or earning power!!! 

kellychang      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:16) Posted: haha...agree... i am a woman also... what the guy can do, we also can do... nowadays woman not only stay at home, look after baby... but also have to work to support the family... cheongwee      ( Date: 10-Sep-2009 21:08) Posted: sometimes i do regret arguing .with guy here, but i dont feel sorry for them...esp stubborn guy.. i love quarrelling with guy, because they are guy..who care...like they say...faceless... woman are now snmarter,,...most school principle are woman...great engineer of the society.